[X] My Assistant

我hv的启动资金就是挂h@h来的，开完了画廊perk还剩几个hath，卖了换C玩hv (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

实际上的确是这么回事，现在让我开局投资或者获得帮助，训练满 300 经验值获取，经验环开满，达到和异世界相同的经验倍率，我也能一个月升到 300 级。

I can say that with exp perks and ~100 training i was able to take 300lvl in less than a week. Further, my warrior equips allowed me to comfortably run ~500 floors in a grindfest for an hour on PFUDOR at almost no cost and get about 3-7lvl per game day

This post has been edited by StickyGoose: Dec 13 2021, 18:22

I can say that with exp perks and ~100 training i was able to take 300lvl in less than a week. Further, my warrior equips allowed me to comfortably run ~500 floors in a grindfest for an hour on PFUDOR at almost no cost and get about 3-7lvl per game day

I think your Situation is total normal, with the Help and Guide from other Players, has the Will to learn and to play HV to level up, then anyone can just reach the same like you.

我無法用H@H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) 也不知道怎麼挖礦
不然想要貓娘 挖礦需要很強的硬體配備嗎?

Just as I thought - i didn't pass the facecontrol for peerless (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Nevertheless, during the leveling i got a few good things for the warrior which helped me in the rapid leveling (example Peerless Amber Power Leggings of Protection, I think I'm lucky with the loot) and after the rebuild in the mage would like to donate them to the SFshop, you guys are cool =) In addition i received a little help from the russian-community to buy perks on exp

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) How lucky you are.
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) Both of my peerless are trash.

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This post has been edited by maxraccoon: Jan 30 2022, 11:32

除了这里似乎找不到其他中文贴了

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This post has been edited by maxraccoon: Jan 30 2022, 11:33

一上来就有别人帮助这已经很不normal了，有谁刚注册账号就认识一群人的，注册三天277级这可太normal了，三天经验
训练只能点30，顺带他朋友还挺热心，知道“鹅”这个字指的是他，还通知他来中文贴回复。明明没人提到他的id�
�他上来还是引用ilegs的回复内容，石砸狗叫了属于是。什么？你说谷歌翻译？我信了！

I followed the link from the "Unoficial hentaiverse chat" because of the very lively discord and happened to notice a discussion about me in the context that I was lucky enough to drop LHOH (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) And yep, I use google chrome's built-in translator in both directions, my native language is russian
And by the way, I literally followed the quick start guide https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...211064&st=0

This post has been edited by StickyGoose: Dec 13 2021, 19:44

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This post has been edited by maxraccoon: Jan 30 2022, 11:34

一上来就有别人帮助这已经很不normal了，有谁刚注册账号就认识一群人的，注册三天277级这可太normal了，三天经验
训练只能点30，顺带他朋友还挺热心，知道“鹅”这个字指的是他，还通知他来中文贴回复。明明没人提到他的id�
�他上来还是引用ilegs的回复内容，石砸狗叫了属于是。什么？你说谷歌翻译？我信了！

第一，每个人都有自己的社交圈，通过自己周围的人来玩 HV 也很正常啊，我自己当初决定注册账号来玩 HV ，除了我对页游的情怀以外，直接的原因，就是进了旧的 HV 贴吧发现 ST-Ru 是我以前呆了很多年的“英雄无敌”吧的老熟人，所以我刚开始玩就得到了他的帮助。所以认识现有的 HV 玩家并不一定要在注册之后。

第二，我玩了快一年赛马娘以后，见识到了又肝又氪的玩家，有人愿意为 HV 投入钱和时间我也不觉得不正常。他刚入坑就选择去升满各种经验值训练和快速升级，我是非常赞成这个思路的，
新玩 HV ，或者异世界新赛季，前期迅速升级往 300 级 400 级冲击是很明智的选择。愿意投入，或者有其他玩家帮助，那么初期可以依靠大量奖杯获得冲级用的装备。

第三， ilegs 的帖子里提到你们那家店，也提到“鹅”，而那位玩家的用户名是 StickyGoose 头像也是鹅，用谷歌翻译以后认为是指他自己很正常啊，我也认为是在指他。遇到这种情况为自己辩护，这更正常
了，这一点我觉得没什么值得指责的。

第四，关于经验值的部分，训练虽然需要时间，但是经验环只要买了 Hath 就可以一口气开满，这点上虽然环的性价比不如训练，但是还是有优势的。

第五，现在低等级升级是很快，我上一赛季在开始尝试异世界以后，第一天花了几个小时就过 200 级了。一般服务器这里，虽然上来经验训练和环不满，但是精力可以补充，开荒装备也可以弄到，愿意学习而且愿
意投入时间去刷的话，的确能做到他那样子，我以前也见识过 morineko 最速 500 级的事情。

第六，怀疑和质疑那位玩家是你们的自由，举报那位玩家是你们的权利，我理解，也不反对你们这么做，有没有违
规就交给管理组去判断吧，但是预设一个违规立场去解读他的所有行为，认为某些和自己不一致但是实际上却能够
做到的事情只能通过违规实现，那这和叔叔的做法又有何区别呢。

还有提一点，现场答辩时，底下的围观群众竟然有一半都是0发言的人，其中还有一个是昨天注册的。

The link was posted yesterday and I read out of interest what you write here. I did not plan to defend myself, it was just a surprise that I was discussed in a topic in a foreign language and I wanted to participate (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) But now looking at it from the outside, this and my presence here does look suspicious

This post has been edited by StickyGoose: Dec 13 2021, 19:55

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This post has been edited by maxraccoon: Jan 30 2022, 11:36

除了这里似乎找不到其他中文贴了

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=177680

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This post has been edited by maxraccoon: Jan 30 2022, 11:37

退一步说，他使用你们店里提供的服务，然后花费大量时间往 400 级冲，那么就可以更快退还之前租借的等级比较低的装备，让其他玩家可以使用，然后转而租借等级高一些的装备
，最终达到 400 级可以自力更生，这也是很不错的。

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This post has been edited by maxraccoon: Jan 30 2022, 11:37

退一步说，他使用你们店里提供的服务，然后花费大量时间往 400 级冲，那么就可以更快退还之前租借的等级比较低的装备，让其他玩家可以使用，然后转而租借等级高一些的装备
，最终达到 400 级可以自力更生，这也是很不错的。

That's exactly what I was doing. I flipped through the Russian-language thread and there are many times mentioned that it is more profitable to get high level very early, Ikki Pop a few pages earlier even advised to buy a star before 400 level, but I can not afford it. After my stamina went below 60 I realized that the difference in stamina cost per round is not so high and just played as usual in grind-rpg (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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This post has been edited by StickyGoose: Dec 13 2021, 20:11

你这说的没错，咸鱼店也只是怀疑备案，毕竟带着装备没了对其他要租借玩家的影响也不小。顺带你上面那些觉得
正常的理由站不住脚，不要身边统计学，不要以自身举例。你就问问这中文贴里近期的其他新人，看看他们会觉得
这是正常的吗？

他们可以觉得正常，也可以觉得不正常，我从头到尾都是在说，这些事情在目前版本不违规也是可以做到的。
世界上有形形色色的人，他们有五花八门的知识，他们选择各种各样的玩法，这些都不奇怪的。

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This post has been edited by maxraccoon: Jan 30 2022, 11:37