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post Oct 29 2021, 05:18
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QUOTE(jiuqi97 @ Oct 29 2021, 11:01) *

最贵的还是锻造吧，装备不太好也能用


盾戰不用開環 IW隨便打 5強就夠

法師渣加速整套不到10m就有了 熟練用袍或褲
IW 綁魂 鍛造 還要開環 好幾十m 最好多存一些
基本要花個25m吧
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post Oct 29 2021, 05:38
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我一身光头，没有锻造，还拿的M杖，一样能打

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光头指的是没有魔光或者加速前缀？
原来这样也能打
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post Oct 29 2021, 05:50
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post Oct 29 2021, 05:59
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光头指的是没有魔光或者加速前缀？
原来这样也能打

是的
我现在竞技场打的十分安逸，但是IW和GF就有点遭重了
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post Oct 29 2021, 06:03
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QUOTE(ok1995 @ Oct 29 2021, 11:59) *

是的
我现在竞技场打的十分安逸，但是IW和GF就有点遭重了


你競技場打*20 還是低難度的?
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post Oct 29 2021, 06:04
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你競技場打*20 還是低難度的?

X20

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这期拍卖雷系都是磨光啊，一件加速也没，抢不过，抢不过
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post Oct 29 2021, 07:10
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好冷啊，不想起床。。。。
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post Oct 29 2021, 08:11
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搶不到無雙裝
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post Oct 29 2021, 08:20
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Legendary Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction 470, MDB 24%, Wind EDB 29%

这个杖起价500k？？
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post Oct 29 2021, 09:17
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Legendary Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction 470, MDB 24%, Wind EDB 29%

这个杖起价500k？？


那把杖沒人標
這兩個等級接近
[Sta07] Legendary Arctic Willow Staff of Destruction (396, MDB 43%, Cold EDB 56%)
[Clo19] Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Freyr (391, IW 10, Wind EDB 25%)
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[Clo38] Legendary Charged Phase Shoes of Niflheim (476, Cold EDB 62%)
[Clo44] Legendary Charged Cotton Robe of the Elementalist (500, Elem Prof 35%)
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post Oct 29 2021, 09:19
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說起來聖暗以外會穿魔光下GF嗎? 直覺上感覺不切實際
我元素是一套加速雷一路弄到畢業裝，這樣在700後，偶爾還是會被揍到需要開大靈力藥

身上沒多少錢了，昨天HVMark沒提早收提款的話，身上只剩下300k，提款後也只有10M (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

弄法裝要先訂目標，只打競技場簡單，打算上GF是另一個故事
打算打GF但是沒打算進深層不難，想打通就需要投入比較多資源

法師價格基本上等同生存能力/強度，投入裝備預算越高，生存能力越高
裝備品質只決定了天花板有多高，鍛造則是多接近天花板
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post Oct 29 2021, 09:39
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QUOTE(ericeric91 @ Oct 28 2021, 23:00) *

是，全750以後有reset計數器

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咨询一下750主属性和抗性是各点多少级?
目前等级都是650左右存着2m水晶不敢随便点 (((
万一有一只等级点超了强迫症当场脑溢血
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post Oct 29 2021, 09:41
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咨询一下750主属性和抗性是各点多少级?
目前等级都是650左右存着2m水晶不敢随便点 (((
万一有一只等级点超了强迫症当场脑溢血

来用HV Utils
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post Oct 29 2021, 09:48
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来用HV Utils
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这就安回来, 很久以前嫌界面太花就卸掉了 (((
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post Oct 29 2021, 09:59
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QUOTE(fd_tmp @ Oct 29 2021, 15:39) *

咨询一下750主属性和抗性是各点多少级?
目前等级都是650左右存着2m水晶不敢随便点 (((
万一有一只等级点超了强迫症当场脑溢血

簡單，全部變成1500就整齊了 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Oct 29 2021, 10:05
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說起來聖暗以外會穿魔光下GF嗎? 直覺上感覺不切實際
我元素是一套加速雷一路弄到畢業裝，這樣在700後，偶爾還是會被揍到需要開大靈力藥



昨天才知道是魔光無imp流 施法更快 配紅木熟練更高EDB不減 加上元素不貴 EDB 80%以上好收
冰的抗性優勢 風的打巨人優勢 就是不知道實際打起來如何 只能問大佬試的情況 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Oct 29 2021, 11:04
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元素魔光的问题在于目前的环境下 IMP + 高攻击环 （甚至现在又多了异世界加成）用加速输出也足够了，在 GF 的柳木 IMP 打法下用魔光无法带来质变（比如稳定一个 T3 清场不需要补刀），那么魔光相比加速就没有优势。加速在所有 IMP 动数里都有收益，魔光没有；加速在所有进攻魔法的动数里也都有收益，魔光也有，但是 IMP 打法下的收益却并不突出。

我还是不推荐用红木玩元素无 IMP ，因为并没有优势，而且红木缺反抵抗。不过你可以买魔光试试看，反正魔光在竞技场或者单手法下 IW 和 GF 都有作用，也不贵。你自己体验一下无 IMP 打法更能理解 IMP 在当前版本的强势。
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post Oct 29 2021, 11:26
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QUOTE(ericeric91 @ Oct 29 2021, 15:19) *

說起來聖暗以外會穿魔光下GF嗎? 直覺上感覺不切實際
我元素是一套加速雷一路弄到畢業裝，這樣在700後，偶爾還是會被揍到需要開大靈力藥


羡慕毕业加速雷装（尤其羡慕 P 加速手）。我的法装相比之下实在是一塌糊涂：

Legendary Shocking Willow Staff of Destruction
Legendary Charged Phase Cap of Mjolnir
Legendary Charged Phase Robe of Mjolnir
Legendary Charged Phase Gloves of Mjolnir
Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Mjolnir
Legendary Charged Cotton Shoes of the Elementalist

QUOTE(chjj30 @ Oct 29 2021, 17:04) *

元素魔光的问题在于目前的环境下 IMP + 高攻击环 （甚至现在又多了异世界加成）用加速输出也足够了，在 GF 的柳木 IMP 打法下用魔光无法带来质变（比如稳定一个 T3 清场不需要补刀），那么魔光相比加速就没有优势。加速在所有 IMP 动数里都有收益，魔光没有；加速在所有进攻魔法的动数里也都有收益，魔光也有，但是 IMP 打法下的收益却并不突出。


元素魔光相比圣暗的优势大概和元素法术自身的性质有关系：MP 消耗少，咏唱速度快；因此同样 3+2 或 4+1 的元素魔光和圣暗魔光，前者暴毙的几率已经要低了。

即使 IMP、全魔光、DD9 + Isekai 塔 BUFF，理论上也不存在百分之百一个 T3 不用补刀的可能——只要有一只怪物抵抗骰动后 Resist 90%，一个 T3 一定杀不死它。
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post Oct 29 2021, 11:42
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你俩装备差不多啊。

我觉得吧，元素无 IMP 打法，杖没有优势，特效也没有优势，元素魔法本身的优势 IMP 打法也吃得到，不太值得放弃 IMP ，尤其是在他那个攻击环都不一定开高的情况下。
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post Oct 29 2021, 12:08
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