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post Jan 10 2020, 20:16
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guess it also depends whether this was the first time he did it or n-th iteration
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post Jan 10 2020, 20:19
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QUOTE(lestion @ Jan 10 2020, 16:29) *

I guess it only applies to edited posts and not new posts made to cancel the bid? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

I think it refers to when there are less than 24 hours left.

Before the 24h you can just cancel.
When there are less than 24h to the end of the auction you cannot cancel, however you can edit in case you've bid by mistake. Except if said "error" reveals a proxy bid. Then edited post won't invalidate your bid that revealed the proxy.
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post Jan 10 2020, 22:26
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AlcheT did the standard very bad thing that's well known, so my guess is that if they do it again they'll get a manual bid ban, like the last guy I knew of.

If Maharid wants to request a redo of this week's auction item that'd probably be fair also. The good thing is that at least most people weren't able to see what AlcheT unveiled if they canceled quickly.

P.S. - This person also won the Peerless Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter in lottery yesterday...Congratulations!
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post Jan 10 2020, 23:00
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it's not the first time i hear about unveiling proxy bids, and personally i wouldn't find the bidban thing too excessive for reiterations. not my auction though, so let's hear for latanium
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post Jan 11 2020, 00:59
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Bids made via forum post can be canceled by typing itemcode cancel in a subsequent post before the last 24 hours of the auction, but should not be done after. If you mistype, you can edit your post to invalidate your bid if you have not revealed a proxy bid.


I think this mean that if you have revealed a proxy bid you simply cannot cancel the bid and have to go with it.

While i think is a bit too much with a single bid with multiple bids meant to reveal the top proxybid this should be the case.

Anyway for me is still ok, i have a Peerless Amber Power Armor of Protectionbut that is a Savage Slaughter, nothing tho laught about, if affordable i'll try to swap.

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post Jan 12 2020, 07:25
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I didn't participate in auctions for a while so I'll ask, super or anyone knowing.

Is it normal that nothing got sent yet or did someone forget to click the send all button, again? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 12 2020, 11:00
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QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ Jan 12 2020, 06:25) *

I didn't participate in auctions for a while so I'll ask, super or anyone knowing.

Is it normal that nothing got sent yet or did someone forget to click the send all button, again? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


As long as your username wasn't changed since you made the account on Super's proxy bid system, you will get it automatically. In the past weeks, getting your stuff the day after has been common practice.
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post Jan 16 2020, 14:30
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QUOTE(Maharid @ Jan 10 2020, 22:59) *
I think this mean that if you have revealed a proxy bid you simply cannot cancel the bid and have to go with it.
Right, that's the idea. It's not fair to a proxy bidder or to a seller if others can figure out where the maximum is (or isn't) and then cancel once they have the information they want. (AlcheT will have to proxy bid in the future)
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post Jan 16 2020, 16:32
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QUOTE(Maharid @ Jan 10 2020, 22:59) *

I think we need a rule to prevent thig like that to happen, unveil the max proxybid of a player in this way is just not right.

And more if i want to cancel my bid i cannot because proxybid don't give the possibility.


Sorry for the last auction's cancels. I was so high from the PERS lottery win and decided to collect 1H equips for a while. But after playing Dwd with melee 7000 turn, I soon find out melee is too slow, restarted collecting holy mage gears and canceled it. I wasn't cautious about revealing proxy bid. I feel really sorry to you. Sent 5m(gap of the price) as a appologize.

I will not use cancel again and there won't be a mistake like this. Apologize to the other auction users.

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post Jan 16 2020, 16:50
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I really thank you for that but i want to puntualize one thing, cancel is not forbidden and even revealing a proxy bid is ok, it's wrong to do with different consecutive bids.

If you have put 15M as bid you would have revealed that my max proxy bid was lower but not of how much, it would have been more or less ok.

With multiple bids it become easy to find the proxy bid and that can make someone bid to forcefully rise the price, for both giving the seller more profit or just to make a bidder deplete more momney to have more possibility in other items du to lack of funds.

For some time this got a problem due to different players doing so, i see quite of them, it seems you where just unaware of the thing, so don't fret too much on it, just be more careful in the future.

Have a nice day. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 16 2020, 17:13
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Thanks for the kind words. Also wish you a nice day.
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post Feb 13 2020, 15:33
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I've noticed a slight bug, where on your first bid, if you bid with notify, and someones proxy bid is already higher, you don't get notified. It only does it on the first one, the 2nd time you bid and get outbid it works as normal.

If it helps to replicate it, what I did:

Bid
Updated
Checked update log after noticing my name hadn't appeared, and saw I got proxy bid, but didn't receive a PM/moogle
Added a higher bid
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Got a PM notifying me that I was outbid.

I did two items in the first bid, both with notify, quoted below:
QUOTE(Ubershank @ Feb 13 2020, 13:14) *

hea03 200k notify
hea07 200k notify

Not sure if it was the multiple lines that caused it?
On my second bid I didn't ask for a new notify, so the first one applied properly, just didn't work immediately.

Let me know if you need any more info from me.
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post Feb 14 2020, 19:03
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Hello, I want to ask if there is a way to cancel future proxy bid.
Here I'm the actual winner of the item and ok i cant cancel that cause it's less than 24h
The thing I want is to cancel the increasing bid I put (many times the actual value) cause I missclicked and wanted the item next to it
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post Feb 14 2020, 19:06
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QUOTE(tai2_1 @ Feb 14 2020, 18:03) *

Hello, I want to ask if there is a way to cancel future proxy bid.
Here I'm the actual winner of the item and ok i cant cancel that cause it's less than 24h
The thing I want is to cancel the increasing bid I put (many times the actual value) cause I missclicked and wanted the item next to it

according to the rules, I'd say that you're buying it, and that you can't lower it. Iirc there is even a warning "are you sure? proxy bids can't be lowered afterwards!"
Like Scremaz always says: "Cavecat Emptor"
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post Feb 15 2020, 13:24
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QUOTE(tai2_1 @ Feb 15 2020, 02:03) *

Hello, I want to ask if there is a way to cancel future proxy bid.
Here I'm the actual winner of the item and ok i cant cancel that cause it's less than 24h
The thing I want is to cancel the increasing bid I put (many times the actual value) cause I missclicked and wanted the item next to it


I think if it's in realms of hundreds of millions as you mistakenly use 0000 as thousand and not 000, like what happened a few months ago, you could try contact super.
but putting bid on the wrong entry and only making an inquiry a day later is somewhat....
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post Feb 15 2020, 20:12
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 14 2020, 19:06) *

Like Scremaz always says: "Cavecat Emptor"


CaveCAT only applies to CATgirls like you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

For all normal people (and in correct latin) it is CAVEAT emptor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Feb 15 2020, 20:53
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Feb 15 2020, 19:12) *

CaveCAT only applies to CATgirls like you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

For all normal people (and in correct latin) it is CAVEAT emptor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Feb 16 2020, 11:39
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QUOTE(Ubershank @ Feb 13 2020, 13:33) *
I've noticed a slight bug, where on your first bid, if you bid with notify, and someones proxy bid is already higher, you don't get notified. It only does it on the first one, the 2nd time you bid and get outbid it works as normal.
Never thought about that before, but yeah, that doesn't sound like it should be the intended behavior. It's a simple fix, I just need to switch around the parsing order so that commands get saved, then bids get tried. Should work as expected now.
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post Feb 16 2020, 16:05
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Feb 16 2020, 09:39) *

Never thought about that before, but yeah, that doesn't sound like it should be the intended behavior. It's a simple fix, I just need to switch around the parsing order so that commands get saved, then bids get tried. Should work as expected now.

That's great news (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 16 2020, 16:17
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Feb 15 2020, 12:24) *

I think if it's in realms of hundreds of millions as you mistakenly use 0000 as thousand and not 000, like what happened a few months ago, you could try contact super.
but putting bid on the wrong entry and only making an inquiry a day later is somewhat....

looks like eastern way to count stuff, that doesn't compel with metric system too much. *personally* i once again would think it's in users' best interests to collect info about how an auction system swings (ie: caveat emptor), but if latanium wants to make a fix for that, all the better.
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