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post Mar 21 2019, 20:40
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I think that's a proper opening price considering the level

I agree the item is priced well. This is rather about the principle and consistency of how this particular auction works. Another way to look at it is: what if I had an item that barely meets Superlatanium's criteria, but I list it every week for a start bid of 100k, and this goes on for months. Maybe it even sells eventually. But is this fair to everyone, and is that the price it should have sold for at this auction, as opposed to a shop?

I tried not to suggest that this item needed to be removed, perhaps another consistent solution could be found. For example, requiring that sellers with an unsold item reduce the start price by a certain amount each time. That would get my 100k junk out of there.
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post Mar 21 2019, 20:45
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I agree. The auction system isn't necessarily for finding the best price to sell something at (just a happy coincidence if you'd have underpriced it), but selling it fast. If auctions started getting flooded with gear that's not able to sell quickly - regardless of pricing - at that point it's just a shop
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post Mar 22 2019, 03:19
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QUOTE(lestion @ Mar 22 2019, 03:45) *

I agree. The auction system isn't necessarily for finding the best price to sell something at (just a happy coincidence if you'd have underpriced it), but selling it fast. If auctions started getting flooded with gear that's not able to sell quickly - regardless of pricing - at that point it's just a shop


Ditto.
I'm on the same boat.
You can say that this or that is a fair price, or a reasonable price, or a good price, or whatever.

But at the end of the day, supply and demand rules. If no one is buying your item (regardless of how "fair" some people might say the price is), then it should either not be in the next auction at all, or should be allowed to enter, but at a reduced starting cost.
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post Mar 26 2019, 19:23
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wow whats up with this week's heavy armour?? 3x Peerless Slaughter and a really good Armor of Slaughter

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post Mar 30 2019, 16:56
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#104 tnalsw bid on Hea05 for 1250k but last bid by OnHaSw [Proxy bid after] #102 was 1201k and next minimum bid is 1251k


How come proxy bidder randomly bid 1k while the next bid were normal 50k again? Cmiiw but I think it shouldn't, as it will be tricky for manual bidder if they don't check the first or second post after they manually bid.
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post Mar 30 2019, 20:25
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QUOTE(fuadhika @ Mar 30 2019, 14:56) *

How come proxy bidder randomly bid 1k while the next bid were normal 50k again? Cmiiw but I think it shouldn't, as it will be tricky for manual bidder if they don't check the first or second post after they manually bid.


"A proxy bidder's last bid is exempt (1k minimum increment)"
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post Mar 30 2019, 20:28
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QUOTE(lestion @ Mar 30 2019, 18:25) *

"A proxy bidder's last bid is exempt (1k minimum increment)"

But the proxy bidder bid 50k after the 1k bid, for the same item. And I've never proxy bid 1k so far I've used proxy bidder. How's that work?
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post Mar 30 2019, 21:15
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QUOTE(fuadhika @ Mar 30 2019, 15:28) *

But the proxy bidder bid 50k after the 1k bid, for the same item. And I've never proxy bid 1k so far I've used proxy bidder. How's that work?

his first max bid was 1201k, 1k more than the other guy, that's all
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post Mar 30 2019, 21:18
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Mar 30 2019, 19:15) *

his first max bid was 1201k, 1k more than the other guy, that's all

Aah, so the next 50k was his new proxy bid huh? Now I get it, thank you for the explanation.
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post Apr 13 2019, 01:41
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I have a doubt.

I had a proxy bid with 75k for [Mat06] ( [Mat06] [75k] [Apr 11 2019, 14:19] ). Another player posted a manual bid of 75k a day later. And who is winning is the one who gave the bid afterwards.

Is that correct? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Apr 13 2019, 02:58
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Apr 12 2019, 20:41) *

Is that correct? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

yes, that's why sometimes people bid 81k and not 80k, for example
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post Apr 30 2019, 11:30
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[Clo01] Legendary Charged Phase Shoes of Heimdall (436, Holy EDB 49%) (seller: Resha) KamuiSeph 3.09m Proxy bid after #71; winning for 45.9h / 51.3h; -1.1%

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post Apr 30 2019, 11:55
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QUOTE(Resha @ Apr 30 2019, 18:30) *

[Clo01] Legendary Charged Phase Shoes of Heimdall (436, Holy EDB 49%) (seller: Resha) KamuiSeph 3.09m Proxy bid after #71; winning for 45.9h / 51.3h; -1.1%

Still waiting for the credits in my mooglemail... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

I paid, I swear (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Apr 30 2019, 12:13
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Apr 30 2019, 11:55) *

I paid, I swear (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Actually it doesn't matter, Super will give the credits to the seller regardless of the buyer payment.

I think he was just busy in the last few days, the credits will arrive, sooner or later.
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post Jun 8 2019, 16:14
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When filtering by bidder it identifies proxy bids by the same bidder as a separate bidder. Seems like a weird distinction to me.

Also discount/fee system seems to be not functioning at the moment.
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post Jun 8 2019, 16:26
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QUOTE(Pekpuu @ Jun 8 2019, 08:14) *

Also discount/fee system seems to be not functioning at the moment.

Could you point out the people who should've got taxed.
Remember no tax = no discount.
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post Jun 8 2019, 16:36
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Jun 8 2019, 17:26) *

Could you point out the people who should've got taxed.
Remember no tax = no discount.

Now that you mentioned it everything seems to belong to the discount part this week. I just assumed it wasn't functioning properly as it wasn't showing anything under time-based price multipliers. Guess it was just an extraordinary week in that sense.
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post Jun 8 2019, 17:48
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General remark: the more time passes by, the less time we have to see the items and bid.
Nowadays the auctions seem to start on Thursday to then end on Saturday afternoon, which makes barely more than 2 days to bid. Quite short IMHO.
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post Jun 21 2019, 20:54
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Super, this is really, really, really NOT welcome.
I did set a proxy bid as such: [Mat01] [400k] [Jun 21 2019, 06:29]
And then I see that:
[Mat01] 2000 Mid-Grade Metals (seller: tai2_1) Dead-ed 400k #55, 200c per mat
He did bid today at 12:48.

I should be the one having the winning bid at 400k, not him.
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post Jun 21 2019, 21:31
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jun 21 2019, 21:54) *
Super, this is really, really, really NOT welcome.
I did set a proxy bid as such: [Mat01] [400k] [Jun 21 2019, 06:29]
And then I see that:
[Mat01] 2000 Mid-Grade Metals (seller: tai2_1) Dead-ed 400k #55, 200c per mat
He did bid today at 12:48.

I should be the one having the winning bid at 400k, not him.

It works as it should: real-time bidder have priority over proxy bidder in the case of identical bets ^.^
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