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post May 29 2018, 01:50
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ May 27 2018, 10:35) *

Seconding this. Three is too short, but 5-10 could work. People still regularly wait until 14:59 in hopes the clock will help them out. Let's just save everyone's time.



QUOTE(jplshejeser @ May 27 2018, 06:58) *

to reduce the deadline auction time extension bidding from 15mins utes to 5 or 3 minutes ? thanky ou please


i agree, make it shorter so i can snipe people harder at the end of an auction with more success.



i dont know if i'm in the minority but i liked the original auction style. no tax or discount, just keep it like a standard auction.
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post Jun 7 2018, 01:24
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I don't get something or this is not how it supposed to work?

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post Jun 7 2018, 01:49
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Jun 6 2018, 23:24) *

I don't get something or this is not how it supposed to work?

uhh... 500,000k = 500m (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Jun 7 2018, 16:23
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QUOTE(LogJammin @ Jun 7 2018, 02:49) *

uhh... 500,000k = 500m (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


Dang, most likely that's the case. I even remember when I almost did something similar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)
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post Jun 20 2018, 01:29
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@latanium

no

please sell as random armor pack,
(10 equip for 50k only, that was what i requested of you in moogle) otherwise all of it won't sell
they're too high level and 2 pabs only, also negaativre rols. i was the only one who bid on them from earlier auctions

i klnow i paid 50k or more for each for those

but im willing to forget that

thanks i hope for your understaing

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post Jun 20 2018, 01:45
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edit : if please you ever accepted them i hope that ok?

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post Jun 20 2018, 23:42
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Some of the equips are moderately decent - at least one (and very likely multiple more) will sell for 50k or more. If you sold them all for 50k you'd be losing out. A couple others aren't near the baseline (they weren't sold in my auction before), no one would be interested, I'll just return them. I'll list the rest separately, and you'll almost certainly get a lot more profit than if you tried to sell them all together for just 50k, if that's OK.

I don't want to list packs of multiple equips (or items) at once, if at all possible, it requires an unfortunate amount of micromanagement to be compatible with the auto-updater and the mooglemail reader / parser / equip sender. I don't want to encourage the precedent, sorry.
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post Jul 5 2018, 05:42
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why is it that someone can change their mind on a bid but we cant change our minds on selling our items?



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post Jul 5 2018, 12:30
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Following the auctions in the last 2 months, I've noticed a lot of medium-tier medium-to-high-level Legendary that noone bids for.

As for me, I didn't because I think the 50k start price is unjustified in such cases, but I would have bidded for some of them if the start price would have been e.g. between 20k to 25k

Like for plane leather or cotton items, that are otherwise good enough for some use, but not worthy 50k.

I didn't do a poll, but I'd bet there are other people around here that'd agree with me.

Simply returning them to the owners will in most cases just take them out of the market effectively.

Why not simply accept that some items have to have a lower start price ? (If the sellers agreed, obviously).

That would make it possible for the owners to have more income, the auctions to have less unsold, the market to have more items available floating around, the buyers to have more choice and being able to settle for a reasonable low-end temporarily instead of just renounce to upgrade their gears. This especially in those mid-levels around 300-350, I think would make a difference to more than a few people. Everyone happy.

Do you find any fault in this argument, Super ?

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post Jul 5 2018, 14:29
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Jul 5 2018, 05:42) *

why is it that someone can change their mind on a bid but we cant change our minds on selling our items?

there's a tiny chance someone finds a better item from a self-drop or private business. in that case, personally i don't see anything wrong in retreating.
if, on the other hand, it's someone who just raises to discover proxy bids, it's clearly an abuse.

if neither of the above, could you provide an example?

QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Jul 5 2018, 12:30) *

Following the auctions in the last 2 months, I've noticed a lot of medium-tier medium-to-high-level Legendary that noone bids for.

that's just how spoiled the market is these days, i guess. level-bind may have been sort of an attempt to fix things, but it worked only till a certain extent.
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post Jul 7 2018, 04:53
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Seems like the certificate for reasoningtheory is expired?
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post Jul 7 2018, 18:32
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hi super, I bid [Clo04] [10,505k] [Jul 06 2018, 21:36] and got the winning bid, but I woke up to find out lastwizard05 had the actual winning bid (Lastwizard05 12.5m #80; winning for 22.3h / 63.8h; -0.0%) for more time than me, what happened? if he proxy bidded more than me, why did the auction told me I had the winning bid until i went to bed?
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post Jul 7 2018, 20:25
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Jul 7 2018, 18:32) *

hi super, I bid [Clo04] [10,505k] [Jul 06 2018, 21:36] and got the winning bid, but I woke up to find out lastwizard05 had the actual winning bid (Lastwizard05 12.5m #80; winning for 22.3h / 63.8h; -0.0%) for more time than me, what happened? if he proxy bidded more than me, why did the auction told me I had the winning bid until i went to bed?


I believe that number is the total time he had the highest bid, not just the last highest one.
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post Jul 7 2018, 22:10
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QUOTE(Piscolabis @ Jul 7 2018, 20:25) *

QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Jul 7 2018, 18:32) *

hi super, I bid [Clo04] [10,505k] [Jul 06 2018, 21:36] and got the winning bid, but I woke up to find out lastwizard05 had the actual winning bid (Lastwizard05 12.5m #80; winning for 22.3h / 63.8h; -0.0%) for more time than me, what happened? if he proxy bidded more than me, why did the auction told me I had the winning bid until i went to bed?

I believe that number is the total time he had the highest bid, not just the last highest one.



Aye, if I make a bid then after 10 hours you make one higher (outbid me) for 2 hours, then I outbid you again for 30 minutes, in then end the system will tell I have been winning the bid for 10.5 hours.

Obviously (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Edit: it's all part of Super's scheme to incourage early bidding, it seems (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jul 8 2018, 01:18
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It seems that I didn't receive the early discount for bidding?
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post Jul 8 2018, 01:36
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Jul 8 2018, 07:18) *

It seems that I didn't receive the early discount for bidding?


how many hours you were winning sire?

i think you only get discount if you win for 65 hours, i think below that you get 0% discount

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[Lig03] Legendary Cobalt Shade Breastplate of the Shadowdancer (321, ADB 37%) (seller: madaosan) jplshejeser 50k Proxy bid after #6; winning for 65.5h / 65.5h; -3.8%


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QUOTE(jplshejeser @ Jul 8 2018, 09:36) *

how many hours you were winning sire?

i think you only get discount if you win for 65 hours, i think below that you get 0% discount


[Mat04] 150 High-Grade Cloth (seller: Mantra64) TygerTyger 2.151m Proxy bid after #45, 14.3k per mat; winning for 51.0h / 63.2h; -0.0%

[Clo01] Peerless Amber Phase Cap of Heimdall (435, Holy EDB 100%) (seller: telice) TygerTyger 3.09m Proxy bid after #78; winning for 50.2h / 63.8h; -0.0%

Or is my math off. my math is quite bad

Edit: from the looks of the auction no one got a discount? But taxes were still applied.

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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Jul 8 2018, 07:44) *

[Mat04] 150 High-Grade Cloth (seller: Mantra64) TygerTyger 2.151m Proxy bid after #45, 14.3k per mat; winning for 51.0h / 63.2h; -0.0%

[Clo01] Peerless Amber Phase Cap of Heimdall (435, Holy EDB 100%) (seller: telice) TygerTyger 3.09m Proxy bid after #78; winning for 50.2h / 63.8h; -0.0%

Or is my math off. my math is quite bad


yes, i thinks its really

winning 65 hours is the onbly way that we can only avail discounts

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QUOTE(jplshejeser @ Jul 8 2018, 09:51) *

yes, i thinks its really

winning 65 hours is the onbly way that we can only avail discounts


"Anyone who is winning an item for at least half of the auction duration will receive the full discount."

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post Jul 8 2018, 02:02
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Jul 7 2018, 18:44) *

[Mat04] 150 High-Grade Cloth (seller: Mantra64) TygerTyger 2.151m Proxy bid after #45, 14.3k per mat; winning for 51.0h / 63.2h; -0.0%

[Clo01] Peerless Amber Phase Cap of Heimdall (435, Holy EDB 100%) (seller: telice) TygerTyger 3.09m Proxy bid after #78; winning for 50.2h / 63.8h; -0.0%

Or is my math off. my math is quite bad

Edit: from the looks of the auction no one got a discount? But taxes were still applied.

the discounts are made in base of the taxes, watch the taxes, the amount from it is so small (less than 50k) that it wouldn't have made any considerable discount to early bidders
super doesn't keep any of the taxes, it is implemented on the discounts
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