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I honestly wouldn't care, it's a "bad" shielding with 2+M worth of IW and 200+k worth of forging.
It's pretty silly to buy something for 50k, spend 200+k and try to resell for 300k but whatever, it's not like it will ever be common practice.

P.S. Stoneskin is pure crap, slashing is less than 10% of damage received (talking about Heavy Armor).

This post has been edited by Sapo84: Dec 21 2016, 18:24

It's pretty silly to buy something for 50k, spend 200+k and try to resell for 300k

Guh. And I'm even arguing. Sigh.


"Oh look, an item with an unlikely to be bought for much suffix, with juggernaut 5 and P Block, why not putting a bid on it, just to close my shielding collection?"
So I put a bid.
"Oh, I won, strange, 50k is very low for an IW worth 2M, well, whatever, good for me"
When I was at -200 fragments to fuse these, I realize that the L range in the wiki is wrong and that my already soulbound ones had 0.11 more block.
Was it worth to waste 1200 fragments of my soulfuse queue to get a jug 5 on an item not really useful? No.
I put them in my shop.
One week and half passes.
I see someone buying that unlikely to be sold plate from sssss2's shop, then I say "why not trying to send them back then, maybe I'll sell them faster, even at less than 500k but whatever, I get back my mats at least"...no?
No okay.

There is an easy thing to do, called "return mail"

Super, you already did it countless times when the stuff "was not good*", so why didn't you directly return them instead of complaining and then mocking me in public after I turned you down?

*Example: the complain about the wardings you returned me some time ago, wardings I stopped sending you even though you still accept from other people in your auctions, or the 2h weapons of balance that appear every now on then (while a L range in almost all stats mag estoc of slaughter [only 11-14 more base adb, nothing big (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)] wasn't worth it apparently, returned it 5 times, in the end I even salvaged it)

I'm even wasting time here to explain myself because of this.
It's not like I want people to think I'm a fool <.<


Good grief...

This post has been edited by ppp82p: Dec 21 2016, 18:40

Guh. And I'm even arguing. Sigh.
"Oh look, an item with an unlikely to be bought for much suffix, with juggernaut 5 and P Block, why not putting a bid on it, just to close my shielding collection?"
So I put a bid.
"Oh, I won, strange, 50k is very low for an IW worth 2M, well, whatever, good for me"
When I was at -200 fragments to fuse these, I realize that the L range in the wiki is wrong and that my already soulbound ones had 0.11 more block.
Was it worth to waste 1200 fragments of my soulfuse queue to get a jug 5 on an item not really useful? No.
I put them in my shop.
One week and half passes.
I see someone buying that unlikely to be sold plate from sssss2's shop, then I say "why not trying to send them back then, maybe I'll sell them faster, even at less than 500k but whatever, I get back my mats at least"...no?
No okay.

There is an easy thing to do, called "return mail"

Super, you already did it countless times when the stuff "was not good*", so why didn't you directly return them instead of complaining and then mocking me in public after I turned you down?

*Example: the complain about the wardings you returned me some time ago, wardings I stopped sending you even though you still accept from other people in your auctions, or the 2h weapons of balance that appear every now on then (while a L range in almost all stats mag estoc of slaughter [only 11-14 more base adb, nothing big (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)] wasn't worth it apparently, returned it 5 times, in the end I even salvaged it)

I'm even wasting time here to explain myself because of this.
It's not like I want people to think I'm a fool <.<
Good grief...

I don't read any accusations towards you. Transparency is a good thing. Great from Superlatanium that he shows us his considerations on what he feels is a dilemma.

I think that the main reason for rejecting a start bid should be that it is unlikely to sell. Super will spend time on that item, and if it doesn't sell that's bad for him/his auction.

My oppinion: HV-players don't have to be protected from stupid decisions in auction. If someone wants to spend like - just an absurd example - 20m on a charged phase robe of niflheim, the auctioneer doesn't have any obligation to warn or protect. But that's my opinion. So if I was Super (and I'm not super, not even bat) I would not accept your item because I'd think it has no chance at that start figure. Without start, I'd accept.

When I was at -200 fragments to fuse these, I realize that the L range in the wiki is wrong and that my already soulbound ones had 0.11 more block.

See, that was silly, I stand correct (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

See, that was silly, I stand correct (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Why was he silly? It was the wiki's fault

Why was he silly? It was the wiki's fault

Wiki's range are known to be all over the place in some cases.
Never trust the wiki ranges unless you know the information have been updated!
And never trust comparison scripts and forge formula.

Never trust anything, really (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
(and I was joking, even if he should have probably checked his soulfused shielding gauntlets before buying)

Wiki's range are known to be all over the place in some cases.
Never trust the wiki ranges unless you know the information have been updated!
And never trust comparison scripts and forge formula.

Never trust anything, really (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
(and I was joking, even if he should have probably checked his soulfused shielding gauntlets before buying)

Oh I get it now, never trust anything. I'll trust you for saying that

...

The problem with this form of collusion is that even if the malicious bidders bids higher than the max value of the other bidders and wins, he can always resell the item and no one would be the wiser.

...

Not sure if relevant. But it is a possibility to consider maybe.

Not sure if relevant. But it is a possibility to consider maybe.

But for the malice to walk away with the item shows that no one else is willing to bid higher. So they would be taking a huge risk in that the item will probably remains unsold for a long time if ever, if they try to turn a profit.

@Super
How much does this equipment will fare (minimum price)?

Legendary Savage Power Boots of Slaughter

nob said it's around:

20M+

I need second opinion, thanks! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

@Super
How much does this equipment will fare (minimum price)?

Legendary Savage Power Boots of Slaughter

nob said it's around:
I need second opinion, thanks! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Very High ADB, Savage.
I'd say even 30-50M

Some mails I sent had been recall.
I salvage one of the recalled for the high-wood ,but I find that the links still on the preview list(recalled things).
I'm afraid of being the naughty list.
Would I being naughty list?


Sorry for my poor ability of English!
If there is any offence ,please forgive me!

This post has been edited by Fatesifaeve: Dec 26 2016, 09:41

@Super
How much does this equipment will fare (minimum price)?

Legendary Savage Power Boots of Slaughter

nob said it's around:
I need second opinion, thanks! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

10m for a start bid might be a wise decision

Something happened, and I want your guys' input.

blablabla...

Please advise, am I being unfair?

Super, U know what? u have done the right thing, your decision is very wise and fair.

I cant blame ppp82p(End Of All Hope)'s action to regain his money from his lost on forging or whatever it is or maybe to gain some profit, but as an auctioner from the best auction in hentaiverse, u must keep it clean, fair, and harmless to all bidder/hentaiverse community. If u can protect the bidders, why not? there is no harm of doing so. It will make u Super a wise king which is even better than a right king. WISE > RIGHT.

If ppp82p wants to do that particular action, he should do that in a shop not in an auction.

ppp82p bro, no hard feeling okay, we dont have bad intention towards you here, I hope u would understand. Like always, we gotta face all problems through discussion. (btw,sorry for my bad english)

NB: @ppp82p bro, if u hate me because of this opinion, you can PM me and as soon as I read your PM, I will give you free 4 ED, so cheers! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by tsunadebusty: Dec 26 2016, 16:14

Super, U know what? u have done the right thing, your decision is very wise and fair.

I cant blame ppp82p(End Of All Hope)'s action to regain his money from his lost on forging or whatever it is or maybe to gain some profit, but as an auctioner from the best auction in hentaiverse, u must keep it clean, fair, and harmless to all bidder/hentaiverse community. If u can protect the bidders, why not? there is no harm of doing so. It will make u Super a wise king which is even better than a right king. WISE > RIGHT.

If ppp82p wants to do that particular action, he should do that in a shop not in an auction.

ppp82p bro, no hard feeling okay, we dont have bad intention towards you here, I hope u would understand. Like always, we gotta face all problems through discussion. (btw,sorry for my bad english)

NB: @ppp82p bro, if u hate me because of this opinion, you can PM me and as soon as I read your PM, I will give you free 4 ED, so cheers! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I want that free EDs too , masbro (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I want that free EDs too , masbro (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Pffft.
If he ever sends me 4 eds, I'll salvage that gauntlets (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


Anyway I thought the lively chat about those was over (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

NB: @ppp82p bro, if u hate me

Pffft.
If he ever sends me 4 eds, I'll salvage that gauntlets (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

so, you hate him! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Realizing you don't want something after all is completely understandable, but people have complained about resellers in the past, and I thought it was especially blatant to buy and then try to resell for a +500% markup over what was paid to buy it.

I think I've said this before, but I generally try to give people the benefit of the doubt when they want to sell something, even when it doesn't quite pass the official standards. But I didn't really want to host the sale of something that seemed to be in bad faith. His reply seemed specious but I wasn't entirely certain, so I posted here. Don't take it personally, I'd have done this no matter who the seller if a listing seemed exploitative of my rules or buyers but I wasn't 100% sure.

I think that the main reason for rejecting a start bid should be that it is unlikely to sell. Super will spend time on that item, and if it doesn't sell that's bad for him/his auction.

Yeah. Speaking of, lots of people have been sending stuff that doesn't pass the official standards (which in the past has resulted in lots of stuff being listed no one cares about), so I'm going to be rejecting more stuff in the future. (But guys, please try to send stuff that I won't likely reject, it's annoying)

@Super
How much does this equipment will fare (minimum price)?

Legendary Savage Power Boots of Slaughter

nob said it's around:
I need second opinion, thanks! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

89% ADB and Savage. Yeah, 20m+ sounds right. It could even go for a whole lot higher depending on who gets interested in it.

Some mails I sent had been recall.
I salvage one of the recalled for the high-wood ,but I find that the links still on the preview list(recalled things).
I'm afraid of being the naughty list.
Would I being naughty list?

No, that's not a problem at all. Anything is fine before the auction thread has been officially posted.

so, you hate him! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

I ate him.

Just sent you the boots. Hope to have a good day for the new year!