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This is something that is better done with a userscript but I was thinking:

A link to a equip info page next to the equipment link.
The equip info page will contain all of the equip's base stats along with their Lmin, Lmax and percentages.

This is something that is better done with a userscript but I was thinking:

A link to a equip info page next to the equipment link.
The equip info page will contain all of the equip's base stats along with their Lmin, Lmax and percentages.

Not theoretically impossible, but it'd be a lot more sensible to work on the equip page in HV (given all the info available there) than for me to build my own page for each item. It'd look silly, too

Maybe the equipment comparison script could be modified to display percentiles as well...

(though I don't even remember the last time I used the equipment comparison script (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif))

This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Oct 30 2016, 10:40

These high credit value bindings... like slaughter.

Is it possible to divide those up into smaller quantities? Like max 25?

I fully understand it would increase the number of lines, but not many can afford a 6m bid for 1 set of bindings.
I generate a pretty hefty income in this game, and I VERY rarely have 6m plus.

And if they can afford it, they can bid on more than one set.
But the ones that "can" afford it easily, usually have so many pet monsters, they don't need it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Help out us po HV players. Reduce the quantities and make HV great again! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

These high credit value bindings... like slaughter.

Is it possible to divide those up into smaller quantities? Like max 25?

I fully understand it would increase the number of lines, but not many can afford a 6m bid for 1 set of bindings.
I generate a pretty hefty income in this game, and I VERY rarely have 6m plus.

And if they can afford it, they can bid on more than one set.
But the ones that "can" afford it easily, usually have so many pet monsters, they don't need it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Help out us po HV players. Reduce the quantities and make HV great again! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I think that's decided by the seller, not by Super.
Anyway, since he allows something like

You do not have to pay immediately if you are a reputable player. There are no hard time limits. If you might not have the funds to pay your max bid, please PM me.

I think even 5-6m of bindings are somewhat ok.

I think that's decided by the seller, not by Super.
Anyway, since he allows something like
I think even 5-6m of bindings are somewhat ok.

Yeah. And, adding to this:

You do not have to pay immediately if you are a reputable player. There are no hard time limits. If you might not have the funds to pay your max bid, please PM me.

I don't actually check to see if everyone's properly removed their equips from MM until a couple weeks later or so. (except in the case of very high value items, which sometimes need to be removed in a timely fashion in order for me to send the sellers their profit)

One09 1750k
Hey Super, why is proxy bid closed? It's really annoying (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Proxy bidding always closes after the standard auction time expires.

One reason is that the whole point of proxy bidding is to be able to submit your max bid whenever and get the same outcome; a proxy bidder, if they're doing it right, can submit their maximum in the beginning and won't be forced to re-bid later. Proxy bidding at the last minute is kinda bad form (especially given the advantages it offers). (though, waiting till the very end to manually bid in the first place is bad form too... unfortunately, not much I can do about that)

Another reason (and partially as a result of the previous reason) is that proxy bidding doesn't go through the check to see if the item's auction is still live or not. (this is also my way of restarting expired items in the rare cases when it's needed) So part of it is making sure users don't restart items that have ended, and part of it is me being lazy and not coding an alternative. (due to the backend structure, the proxy bid system has no direct contact with the update function except to call it after the bid is saved - it would be quite some work to integrate them together)


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On a similar note, something I've been wanting to do for a while is to give bidders an advantage when they do things properly and courteously, and show their intention to bid sometime before the last couple hours of the auction. I'm imagining I could do something like increasing the minimum bid increment to 20% or 30% or 40% or something like that for those who haven't bid before coming in at the very last minute and outbidding those who've been winning the item for the past 3 days straight. It's rude.

While that would probably really cut down on the last-minute bidders, the rules and different minimum bid increments for different users would be too confusing for an average user in this international forum. Maybe I could do it if everyone knew English well and read and understood the rules thoroughly every time, but that's not how it is.

Oh well.

I think that's decided by the seller, not by Super.
Anyway, since he allows something like

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 9 2016, 07:58) *

You do not have to pay immediately if you are a reputable player. There are no hard time limits. If you might not have the funds to pay your max bid, please PM me.
I think even 5-6m of bindings are somewhat ok.

Hmmmm... I've read that, but hasn't really sunk in until now.

Yeah. And, adding to this:
I don't actually check to see if everyone's properly removed their equips from MM until a couple weeks later or so. (except in the case of very high value items, which sometimes need to be removed in a timely fashion in order for me to send the sellers their profit)

This is extremely dangerous information to be in my hands. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

And I thank you for it. I'll try to be gentle. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Yeah. And, adding to this:
I don't actually check to see if everyone's properly removed their equips from MM until a couple weeks later or so. (except in the case of very high value items, which sometimes need to be removed in a timely fashion in order for me to send the sellers their profit)
Proxy bidding always closes after the standard auction time expires.

One reason is that the whole point of proxy bidding is to be able to submit your max bid whenever and get the same outcome; a proxy bidder, if they're doing it right, can submit their maximum in the beginning and won't be forced to re-bid later. Proxy bidding at the last minute is kinda bad form (especially given the advantages it offers). (though, waiting till the very end to manually bid in the first place is bad form too... unfortunately, not much I can do about that)

Another reason (and partially as a result of the previous reason) is that proxy bidding doesn't go through the check to see if the item's auction is still live or not. (this is also my way of restarting expired items in the rare cases when it's needed) So part of it is making sure users don't restart items that have ended, and part of it is me being lazy and not coding an alternative. (due to the backend structure, the proxy bid system has no direct contact with the update function except to call it after the bid is saved - it would be quite some work to integrate them together)
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On a similar note, something I've been wanting to do for a while is to give bidders an advantage when they do things properly and courteously, and show their intention to bid sometime before the last couple hours of the auction. I'm imagining I could do something like increasing the minimum bid increment to 20% or 30% or 40% or something like that for those who haven't bid before coming in at the very last minute and outbidding those who've been winning the item for the past 3 days straight. It's rude.

While that would probably really cut down on the last-minute bidders, the rules and different minimum bid increments for different users would be too confusing for an average user in this international forum. Maybe I could do it if everyone knew English well and read and understood the rules thoroughly every time, but that's not how it is.

Oh well.

Yeah, I can understand that.
I think the current system works pretty well. It's the first time that I experienced this issue, and probably the last.

I think it was couple of auctions ago, I had placed a proxy bid up to 1M credits on a equipment. Anyway, the original bidder put a bid of 1M and ultimately won the item for 1M. Doesn't he or she have to bid 1.1M credits to beat my proxy bid? I would have thought my proxy bid was a reserve bid and any subsequent bids that follows, has to better my maximum bid by the prescribed amount, in this case by 10%.

I think it was couple of auctions ago, I had placed a proxy bid up to 1M credits on a equipment. Anyway, the original bidder put a bid of 1M and ultimately won the item for 1M. Doesn't he or she have to bid 1.1M credits to beat my proxy bid? I would have thought my proxy bid was a reserve bid and any subsequent bids that follows, has to better my maximum bid by the prescribed amount, in this case by 10%.

I'm guessing you're talking about this one:
[reasoningtheory.net] https://reasoningtheory.net/bidlog199155
One16

Your max was 1000k, and the other person manually bid 1000k after you had submitted your proxy bid, and the other person was designated as the winner.

What used to happen was that the proxy bidder was designated as the winner because they had submitted the amount first. (the bid log would display [manual bidder] 1000k, [proxy bidder] 1001k). Early bidder got priority over late bidder (and the difference of 1k is nothing, it was just there for technical purposes). But after a lot of posts on the subject (and a few complaints), it seemed that many didn't really understand/agree on the fairness of that.

Also, I don't really want to tell a manual bidder bidding 1000k that their bid is invalid and the proxy bidder would win it for 1000k without paying anything more.

So the logic was changed: in the case that the manual bidder bids an amount the exact same as the (earlier) proxy bidder, the manual bidder will win the item at that amount.

I don't think it's that fair either; I think the earlier bidder should get higher priority, but way too many people were getting confused.

Here's a "secret". For best results, I suggest submitting proxy bids of uneven quantities, slightly above the nice round numbers. Don't submit 1000k, submit 1001k, or 1021k. Don't submit 3m, submit 3.001m, or 3.11m. Etc. This way, you win the item while paying only a negligible amount more. (This sort of thing is a winning strategy in many online auctions using a proxy system, even when there's no manual bidding. It's useful to remember)

This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Nov 20 2016, 06:46

One way I see it is like 2 guys in an auction house fighting for the same stuff with the same amount of cash.

Mr. Proxy starts the bid and Mr. Manual challenges his bid. Everything afterwards depends on the actions of Mr. Manual and Mr. Proxy's only job is to bid with the next minimum increment. Bid war ensues. Suddenly Mr. Manual bid Mr. Proxy's secret max amount first. Mr. Proxy doesn't have anymore money to spare because he wasn't given more amount to spend and was only told to react to Mr. Manual's bid. So Mr. Manual won in the end.

Or something like that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) In the end....

Here's a "secret". For best results, I suggest submitting proxy bids of uneven quantities, slightly above the nice round numbers. Don't submit 1000k, submit 1001k, or 1021k. Don't submit 3m, submit 3.001m, or 3.11m. Etc. This way, you win the item while paying only a negligible amount more. (This sort of thing is a winning strategy in many online auctions using a proxy system, even when there's no manual bidding. It's useful to remember)

Edit: There was a redundant message here

This post has been edited by IshimaruShun: Nov 20 2016, 07:03

Thanks Super, as long as you are aware and that this is the rule of the auction - I am okay with that. Bidding uneven numbers is a good idea but I think the original bidder probably wanted that equipment a lot more than I did.

From now on, all percentile ranges displayed will be the base stat value, before forging and IW. Due to uncertainty with the formula, there will occasionally be a few percentage points of error with very high forge levels. (Equips that are not heavily forged will remain precise as always. If anyone sees an incorrect range feel free to alert me and I'll fix it)

In other words, we should never again see stats above 100% or (modern legendaries) below 0%.

Oh, also, when I get around to it I'll be adding in percentile ranges for other important-but-not-essential stats, such as PABs/Pmit/Evade. (There are a lot of data points to add, it might take some time) Due to the character limit on individual posts, I can't include the non-essential stats in the auction thread (they get too close to the limit already), but the information will remain in the auction preview in this thread.

This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Dec 3 2016, 20:07

I was thinking, can't we just break the auction into a few posts if it always come close to the character limit?

I was thinking, can't we just break the auction into a few posts if it always come close to the character limit?

It's possible, but regarding ranges, the additional information is mostly superfluous for all but the verybest gears. For almost all equips, it would have a pretty low signal-to-noise ratio. It would also mean some more forum-interaction coding, which isn't too fun to work with. (and that would mean more seconds of "Updating")

If space starts being a larger concern, I think it'd be better for me to start rejecting more gears so the auction lists are shorter. Melee weapons especially have frequently not been getting bids.

From now on, all percentile ranges displayed will be the base stat value, before forging and IW. Due to uncertainty with the formula, there will occasionally be a few percentage points of error with very high forge levels. (Equips that are not heavily forged will remain precise as always. If anyone sees an incorrect range feel free to alert me and I'll fix it)

In other words, we should never again see stats above 100% or (modern legendaries) below 0%.

Oh, also, when I get around to it I'll be adding in percentile ranges for other important-but-not-essential stats, such as PABs/Pmit/Evade. (There are a lot of data points to add, it might take some time) Due to the character limit on individual posts, I can't include the non-essential stats in the auction thread (they get too close to the limit already), but the information will remain in the auction preview in this thread.

Too many data included inside a single pair of parentheses seems a bit messy to me……
Glad to hear that they will only exist here instead of actual auction post (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by ArbiterErii: Dec 4 2016, 17:48

Now that I think about it, the system lacks a "proxy notify".
After you proxy bid you have to post too to get pm/mm notify, and that isn't much convenient sometimes...

Now that I think about it, the system lacks a "proxy notify".
After you proxy bid you have to post too to get pm/mm notify, and that isn't much convenient sometimes...

I always think the proxy system was a set and forget thing.

If you someone else bid on an item, the system will bid for you.
If you get outbid, you shouldn't care anyway since you're supposed to have placed your maximum bid.

I always think the proxy system was a set and forget thing.

If you someone else bid on an item, the system will bid for you.
If you get outbid, you shouldn't care anyway since you're supposed to have placed your maximum bid.

So the notify is useless and he should just remove it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

So the notify is useless and he should just remove it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

It' s useful for normal bidders ( i used it )

Supes, I have a question.

Let's say I'm a proxy bidder, and I bid this item 3,1m.

A normal bidder went for that item for 3m. According to your rule, next bid should be 3,3m (3% increment).

What happens in this situation? Does my bid get automatically canceled and I lost that item?