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Sep 4 2018, 09:51
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Sep 4 2018, 09:32)  also ninjaed
And i took even the time to finish my arena first. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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Sep 4 2018, 12:05
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mundomuñeca
Group: Members
Posts: 4,221
Joined: 14-July 17

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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Sep 4 2018, 06:11)  What do you mean by base stats?
I think when you'll get the mechanics of how stats change with your level, but always based on the initial base stat values, what will happen next is that you will take a fresh look at the "real" stats of your high level leg. powers you hoarded and you'll feel really disappointed ... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Base stat is simply the stat value things would have if the one equipping them was at player level 0 (zero) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) So when you buy something that is, say, level 411, the stats you see are already scaled up to the level. If you then soulfuse it to your lower level of e.g. 333 obviously they are reduced accordingly. While your old equip that was level 245, if soulfused and therefore scaled to level 333 could well end up having better stats the new one ... only by comparing base stats you can judge them correctly (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Better you study the Wiki thoroughly, before spending millions of credits in meh stuff (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Sep 4 2018, 12:35
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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Well, i had bad shrining luck for months now. But it looks like it did go away now. And i hope it stays there. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Sep 4 2018, 14:09
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mundomuñeca
Group: Members
Posts: 4,221
Joined: 14-July 17

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 4 2018, 12:35)  Well, i had bad shrining luck for months now. But it looks like it did go away now. And i hope it stays there. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Now that you told it out loud, She'll keep an interest in you (for better or for worse). Capricious, that are goddesses for you (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Sep 4 2018, 14:18
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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I do too many IFest as if she could still frighten me. Just dont tell her that i said that okay. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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Sep 4 2018, 16:58
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PersonaFan08
Group: Members
Posts: 1,611
Joined: 31-October 12

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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Sep 4 2018, 03:05)  I think when you'll get the mechanics of how stats change with your level, but always based on the initial base stat values, what will happen next is that you will take a fresh look at the "real" stats of your high level leg. powers you hoarded and you'll feel really disappointed ... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Base stat is simply the stat value things would have if the one equipping them was at player level 0 (zero) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) So when you buy something that is, say, level 411, the stats you see are already scaled up to the level. If you then soulfuse it to your lower level of e.g. 333 obviously they are reduced accordingly. While your old equip that was level 245, if soulfused and therefore scaled to level 333 could well end up having better stats the new one ... only by comparing base stats you can judge them correctly (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Better you study the Wiki thoroughly, before spending millions of credits in meh stuff (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I should study the wiki because your answer to my question is still vague. I recommend that you read the last ten posts because Yami and Uncle Stu already answered that question and were clearer than you. This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: Sep 4 2018, 17:01
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Sep 4 2018, 17:16
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PersonaFan08
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Joined: 31-October 12

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Thanks for the forging donations, Uncle Stu and aleden.
This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: Sep 4 2018, 17:19
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Sep 4 2018, 17:20
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yami_zetsu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,689
Joined: 25-February 13

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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Sep 4 2018, 09:58)  I should study the wiki because your answer to my question is still vague.
I recommend that you read the last ten posts because Yami and Uncle Stu already answered that question and were clearer than you.
I don't use Percentile Ranges, just HVToolbox which also shows percentage values, but since you didn't know about bases and their percentages, you're not using neither... I was wondering, are you using Monsterbation?
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Sep 4 2018, 17:25
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PersonaFan08
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Joined: 31-October 12

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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Sep 4 2018, 08:20)  I don't use Percentile Ranges, just HVToolbox which also shows percentage values, but since you didn't know about bases and their percentages, you're not using neither... I was wondering, are you using Monsterbation?
No, I'm not using any of those scripts and I don't have a clue about what they do so if you or Uncle Stu or anyone else could explain to me all of these scripts features that you mentioned and if it's possible to disable some stuff off of them then that would be great.
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Sep 4 2018, 17:32
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mundomuñeca
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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Sep 4 2018, 16:58)  I should study the wiki because your answer to my question is still vague.
I recommend that you read the last ten posts because Yami and Uncle Stu already answered that question and were clearer than you.
They just told you what to do to see the Base value of stats, not how it works. I told you the second. Anyway I thought it was very clear (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Take one of you Leg. Power as an example, and let's say it is level 411 and its ADB is 98.43 Now select it and press C on the keyboard. A popup will open with all its characteristics, in it hover over the ADB number, a little box will come up near the pointer, saying "Base: xx.xx". That is the base number, and it is the ADB that item would have if it was level 0 instead of 411 (the item, not you). Now you soulfuse it, it goes down to your level (say 321), the Base stays the same but the ADB is lowered, because is calculated from the Base ADB but scaled up only to 321 instead of 411. Most (but not all) of the characteristics of equipments are so scaled, like e.g. the PABS, physycal and magical damages, etc. Armour damage mitigations however don't scale with level. As Uncle told you though, Base values can be augmented by forging, so obviously forging is better at higher levels, because the increase in Base value that you get from it is scaled upper for a higher total increase. It's just maths (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Sep 4 2018, 17:39
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yami_zetsu
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 25-February 13

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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Sep 4 2018, 10:25)  No, I'm not using any of those scripts and I don't have a clue about what they do so if you or Uncle Stu or anyone else could explain to me all of these scripts features that you mentioned and if it's possible to disable some stuff off of them then that would be great.
. . . . Come on man, you came to the forums but you didn't look at the script sub-foruminstall the add-ons greasemonkey for firefox or tampermonkey for chrome Read what those scripts do, copy the text and add them as new scripts on the add-on you installed, the most important one is Monsterbation, it lets you hit monsters by hovering your mouse over them instead of clicking them, it counts turns, records the drops you gotten and more Can't believe you gotten so far without scripts, no wonder you don't level fast enough and my condolences to your poor mouse and index finger (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) This post has been edited by yami_zetsu: Sep 4 2018, 17:41
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Sep 4 2018, 18:04
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PersonaFan08
Group: Members
Posts: 1,611
Joined: 31-October 12

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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Sep 4 2018, 08:39)  Come on man, you came to the forums but you didn't look at the script sub-foruminstall the add-ons greasemonkey for firefox or tampermonkey for chrome Read what those scripts do, copy the text and add them as new scripts on the add-on you installed, the most important one is Monsterbation, it lets you hit monsters by hovering your mouse over them instead of clicking them, it counts turns, records the drops you gotten and more Can't believe you gotten so far without scripts, no wonder you don't level fast enough and my condolences to your poor mouse and index finger (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I'll take a look at that place later but for now I'll explain what I'm using. I'm using a smartphone and this is the thing that I'm using to play HV and post on the forums. My web browser is chrome and I'm not interested in hovering but I am interested in percentage values so let's talk strictly about that. My fingers are doing fine by the way as usual and I'm leveling up just fine for the most part. This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: Sep 4 2018, 18:18
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Sep 4 2018, 18:19
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yami_zetsu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,689
Joined: 25-February 13

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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Sep 4 2018, 11:04)  I'm using a smartphone and this is the thing that I'm using to play HV and post on the forums.
My web browser is chrome and I'm not interested in hovering but I am interested percentage values so let's talk strictly about that.
My fingers are doing fine by the way as usual and I'm leveling up just fine for the most part.
Frankly I don't know about smartphone play, but just letting you know with monsterbation and a good internet you can get up to 3-4 clicks per second I already explained how to install them, just download the add-on, get the script, copy the text and on the add-on select add new script and copy from clipboard, save
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Sep 4 2018, 18:44
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,447
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Sep 4 2018, 18:04)  I'll take a look at that place later but for now I'll explain what I'm using.
I'm using a smartphone and this is the thing that I'm using to play HV and post on the forums.
My web browser is chrome and I'm not interested in hovering but I am interested in percentage values so let's talk strictly about that.
My fingers are doing fine by the way as usual and I'm leveling up just fine for the most part.
Monsterbation will greatly improve your game speed on mobile. Like t&t change from 45 min to 15 min with Monsterbation as mage. Similar improvements for melee surely. Use the mobile options: monster bar is the best one. If you need help getting the settings right, just ask on the forum.
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Sep 4 2018, 18:55
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PersonaFan08
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Joined: 31-October 12

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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Sep 4 2018, 09:44)  Monsterbation will greatly improve your game speed on mobile. Like t&t change from 45 min to 15 min with Monsterbation as mage. Similar improvements for melee surely. Use the mobile options: monster bar is the best one. If you need help getting the settings right, just ask on the forum.
I don't care about my game speed on mobile but what I do care about is seeing my adb or mdb/edb percentage.
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Sep 4 2018, 22:28
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lololo16
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,889
Joined: 5-March 12

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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Sep 4 2018, 13:55)  I don't care about my game speed on mobile but what I do care about is seeing my adb or mdb/edb percentage.
install this and Live Percentile Ranges
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Sep 4 2018, 23:12
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PersonaFan08
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Joined: 31-October 12

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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Sep 4 2018, 13:28)  Thanks. I'll install it very soon when I'm less busy so I won't need to rely on other hv players listed percentages as much. This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: Sep 5 2018, 00:01
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Sep 5 2018, 00:34
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Sep 4 2018, 17:16)  Thanks for the forging donations, Uncle Stu and aleden.
Ehm, i would gladly say you are welcome. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) But i didnt sent you anything. Sadly i must admit that you must confuse me now with someone else. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Sep 5 2018, 02:13
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PersonaFan08
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Posts: 1,611
Joined: 31-October 12

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 4 2018, 15:34)  Ehm, i would gladly say you are welcome. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) But i didnt sent you anything. Sadly i must admit that you must confuse me now with someone else. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) You didn't send me anything yesterday like aleden did but recently you sent me a defense matrix modulator with slaughter and nimble bindings. This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: Sep 5 2018, 02:36
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