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post Sep 27 2009, 19:54
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Attack Rating: 286
Magic Rating: 248
Shield Rating: 296
Barrier Ratings: 295
Action Speed: 144

STR: 122+26+1=149
DEX: 123+15=138
AGI: 120+11=133
END: 125+28=153
INT: 113+9=122
WIS: 119+9=128

Dual wielding: 83.54
Heavy armor: 59.21 (part of why I'm probably have trouble with all heavy, I'm not actually even at the point where my prof helps yet, it's actually hurting me, since it only starts getting normalized at half your level, which I'm 1.79prof away from *sigh*).

78.2 interference
82.2 burden

In case you hadn't noticed, that high mitigation came at the cost of making regen last 7 turns instead 8. I'm trying to fix that.

I'll take any advice you have though.

edit: I'm actually a bit curious about those +'s, since my equipment page says:

+14.6 strength
+5.9 dexterity
+1.7 agility
+18.7 endurance
+0 intelligence
+0 wisdom

So where do those +'s come from (I know the 2nd one for strength comes from the shrine)?

edit2: I'm also pretty sure you have better weapons than me Eutopia :P

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post Sep 27 2009, 20:57
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Auras adds to attributes to dont forget them.
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post Sep 27 2009, 21:32
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QUOTE(Eutopia @ Sep 27 2009, 14:57) *

Auras adds to attributes to dont forget them.

Whoops, forgot that.

So what do you have to say, now that you've seen my END and everything?
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post Sep 27 2009, 21:45
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122 +31
105 +12
105 +10
125 +27
94 +0
95 +0

this is my stats when i go full plate. i suggest if you are really going for melee you can cut back the intelligence a bit, we have the same endurance even though you are 11 lvl above me which can make a difference when grinding i guess.

Also i havent seen your abilities but i guess you have 11 points to get the increase in holy rating?
if yes you can experiment putting those on tanks or overcharge to see if it makes a difference.

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post Sep 27 2009, 21:45
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Spaghetti Monster flies no more.

0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=32 (Flying Spaghetti Monster) LV=167 HP=1678350 MP=220 SP=850 NA=50 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #111 (Round 1 / 1) ...
0 0 Battle Start!

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Trophy room:

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post Sep 27 2009, 21:46
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post Sep 27 2009, 21:48
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haha congratz gillian what strat did you use?

Did you bombard them on their weakness or just whacked them to death with soul damage?

Cant really see it clearly but did you have 500 overcharge?

i guess you used 2-3 soul stones?

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post Sep 27 2009, 21:55
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QUOTE(Eutopia @ Sep 27 2009, 12:48) *

haha congratz gillian what strat did you use?

Did you bombard them on their weakness or just whacked them to death with soul damage?

Cant really see it clearly but did you have 500 overcharge?

i guess you used 2-3 soul stones?


580 overcharge (3 soul stones * 120 each).

Just beat him up. I used the soul stones early and wanted the Overcharge boost so I never once used my spirit attack.

Bleed did 500 dmg per tick, while my normal dmg did 150. Constant bleed killed him.
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post Sep 27 2009, 21:56
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damn son. tenb is going to have to make a new tier of legendary mobs just for you.


well... theres always other series and games to pull new and even more ridiculously overpowered boss creatures from. just wait until they start casting deprecating spells on you.

za warudo....
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post Sep 27 2009, 21:57
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Well either way i guess a ethereal weapon is a must to beat them.
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post Sep 27 2009, 22:46
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Jesus H. Christ. I feel so inadequate. My e-peen has shriveled up into a raisin LOL. Good work, gillian.
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post Sep 27 2009, 22:58
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I can't beat legendaries yet, but I can do this.

Grin_fest with Longsword of _laughter:

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Setup: all Plate, Longsword of Slaughter ("The Dominotrix").
Items used: 7 Godly Mana Potions.
Time taken: Far too long.

So was it worth it? What did I get out of it, apart from the obvious EXP and C gains? A lot of items (which sold for another 21K), but the only thing out of the ordinary was one Scroll of the Gods. No artifacts. 7 pieces of equipment, 6 of which I sold, one I kept but probably won't use. No useful proficiency gains apart from Curative. I did get two Tokens of Blood... I think. I've never yet actually noticed one dropping, but there they are in my inventory, so...

Anyway, although I'm happy to exploit the system for free credits while I can, I still say Cakefest is completely broken. Maybe Tenboro doesn't care, but I really think something should be done about it. Like increasing the difficulty level every 25 rounds starting at round 50, or something like that. And if you can grind indefinitely on Battletoads, well, good luck to you.
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post Sep 27 2009, 23:07
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on the other hand...

if you want to invest that much time in grinding... well, why not? its not like, as you mentioned, you generally get anything worthwhile out of it, and you gain exp 2x faster and credits 4x faster on normal.

i just cake when i'm multitasking. which is often, admittedly, but i don't really see anything wrong with how it works now.
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post Sep 28 2009, 02:58
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Update: It works with a Staff too. I don't mean using magic on the monsters, just bashing them over the head with it and relying on Ether Theft to steal enough mana to pay for Cure. When I got bored with just hitting things I tried a little experiment: I cast Cure repeatedly to get my MP down to zero. 9 rounds later, I was full up again. That certainly beats using The Dominotrix, which for most of the time was balanced pretty evenly between losing and gaining MP, what with Second Winds and so on.

So am I going to use the staff from now on? Answer: no. The problem is, it takes so damn long to kill things with it. Bash repeatedly = 4 or 5 hits per monster. Slash and allow to bleed = about a third of that. It would take me a week just to equal my existing record...
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post Sep 28 2009, 03:38
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Sep 27 2009, 22:58) *

I can't beat legendaries yet, but I can do this.

Grin_fest with Longsword of _laughter:

Setup: all Plate, Longsword of Slaughter ("The Dominotrix").
Items used: 7 Godly Mana Potions.
Time taken: Far too long.

So was it worth it? What did I get out of it, apart from the obvious EXP and C gains? A lot of items (which sold for another 21K), but the only thing out of the ordinary was one Scroll of the Gods. No artifacts. 7 pieces of equipment, 6 of which I sold, one I kept but probably won't use. No useful proficiency gains apart from Curative. I did get two Tokens of Blood... I think. I've never yet actually noticed one dropping, but there they are in my inventory, so...

Anyway, although I'm happy to exploit the system for free credits while I can, I still say Cakefest is completely broken. Maybe Tenboro doesn't care, but I really think something should be done about it. Like increasing the difficulty level every 25 rounds starting at round 50, or something like that. And if you can grind indefinitely on Battletoads, well, good luck to you.

He should increase the cap and at the same time increase difficulty. Seems stupid to increase difficulty with no eggnog (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) should only be for cake though normal and above is good as it is.
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post Sep 28 2009, 04:11
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QUOTE(Eutopia @ Sep 27 2009, 18:38) *

He should increase the cap and at the same time increase difficulty. Seems stupid to increase difficulty with no eggnog (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) should only be for cake though normal and above is good as it is.


Maybe instead of increasing the difficulty, cut back on the amount of 2nd winds you get in a grindfest on cake. It's really the 2nd winds that keep me alive sometimes, the difficulty seems just about right for me.

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post Sep 28 2009, 04:34
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with a staff second winds are unnecessary.

it might take a while, but a good ether theft staff will get you to round 10,000 if you really wanted to sit there for like 200 hours.
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post Sep 28 2009, 12:23
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QUOTE(gillian @ Sep 28 2009, 02:45) *

Spaghetti Monster flies no more.

0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=32 (Flying Spaghetti Monster) LV=167 HP=1678350 MP=220 SP=850 NA=50 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #111 (Round 1 / 1) ...
0 0 Battle Start!

[/img]http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1452/24002320.png[/img]

Trophy room:

[/img]http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1396/71398380.png[/img]

Gladiator of the Ring:

[/img]http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6279/s01.png[/img]



QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Sep 28 2009, 03:58) *

I can't beat legendaries yet, but I can do this.

Grin_fest with Longsword of _laughter:

[/img]http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww39/sayoaisaka-EH/1265.jpg[/img]

Setup: all Plate, Longsword of Slaughter ("The Dominotrix").
Items used: 7 Godly Mana Potions.
Time taken: Far too long.

One word for you two... INSANE!!
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post Sep 28 2009, 13:16
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And just why would you want to cut down easily the best grinding state? True enough, given the right equipment, one can cakegrind indefinitely, but I think it is more than counters by immense boredom one will feel from that attempt.

If you personally want something more exciting / challenging / difficult, you can always (try to) go through Grindfest on Battletoads.

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QUOTE(hen_Z @ Sep 28 2009, 18:16) *

you can always (try to) go through Grindfest on Battletoads.

The one who do this and reach level 30 is more insane than both of gillian and sayo... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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