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Highest Level Achieved in Arena/Grindfest, How far have you gotten, any strategies? |
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Feb 11 2011, 05:08
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Feb 11 2011, 02:55) ![*](style_images/ambience/post_snapback.gif) [ img40.imageshack.us] (IMG:[img40.imageshack.us] http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6479/hv0011.jpg) [ img155.imageshack.us] (IMG:[img155.imageshack.us] http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/378/hv0012.jpg) My poison will probably do over 3k if my staff, cloth, and deprecating proficiencies are close to my level. It's the staff, I tried now with my staff, and I got almost the double dmg vs 2W, which make me believe that magic rating, and/or mdm increase poison dmg (or it is nerf affected?), since +72 points of proficiency wouldn't make that much increase. This post has been edited by cmdct: Feb 11 2011, 05:09
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Feb 11 2011, 08:39
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Feb 11 2011, 01:22) ![*](style_images/ambience/post_snapback.gif) I'm curious as to what your Depreciating proficiency is (without gear.) Mine's only at 283, and I'm trying to decide if it's worth the time to farm it up to 300+ before doing FSM on IWBTH. I have high hopes for it since I was getting over 2000 damage per turn on Normal.
And I'm guessing you used the staff I just sold you?
Golden Sun: I just used my C-W gear that I've saved up. its nothing special. My StatsDepreciating proficiency: 252.12 (+281.67 items) I spent a few days working on Depreciating and Curative profiniency. It took about 100 godly mana potions to raise them 10 points. My poison damage would change from cast to cast, the most I think I had was 2801/turn vs IPU-IWBTH. I was going to make the comment to cmdct but the soul or dark damage did a lot too but when you look at the damage over time, poison did over 10 million damage. The other 6 million is from soul, dark, MM, melee attacks, Lifestream. Ya, I used that staff. I have a few with close to or more Deprecating porfiniency but they ether need to be leveled up more or they didn't have a 3t ET. The lower % of ET was a pain vs using a 50% 3t but my staffs like that don't have as much D.P. as that one. So it came down to letting the poison do more damage vs getting channeling and casting more damage spells.
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Feb 11 2011, 12:19
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mangalda
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159 9 Your HP and MP have been fully restored! 159 8 Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Healing] 159 7 Arena Clear Bonus! [Fine Axe of Slaughter] 159 6 Yuki Nagato dropped [Broken Glasses] 159 5 You are Victorious!
Yuki Nagato Deafeated on stuff
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3 X Godly mana Potion
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Feb 11 2011, 13:33
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dkplee
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6 13 You gain 8035 Credits! 6 12 You gain 571.12 EXP! 6 11 Your HP and MP have been fully restored! 6 10 Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Healing] 6 9 Arena Clear Bonus! [Crystal of Cunning] 6 8 Tentacle Monster dropped [Lesser Health Potion] 6 7 Cookie Monster dropped [Fine Club of the Battlecaster] 6 6 Apathetic Canuck dropped [Average Mana Potion] 6 5 You are Victorious! 6 4 Regen restores 47 points of health. 6 3 Mind Raper has been defeated. 6 2 Magic Missile hits Mind Raper for 566 piercing damage. 6 1 You cast Magic Missile. ... 0 1 Initializing arena challenge #16 (Round 18 / 18) ... 0 0 Battle Start!
Welp, to prepare for the next arena, I'm finally going to need to reinvest in some debuffs ;/
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Feb 11 2011, 16:29
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Moe Zayik
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34 15 You gain 25070 Credits! 34 14 You gain 6025.1 EXP! 34 13 Your HP and MP have been fully restored! 34 12 Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Healing] 34 11 Arena Clear Bonus! [Average Cotton Shoes of Warding] 34 10 You have obtained the title: Destined 34 9 Green Slime dropped [Godly Health Potion] 34 8 Manbearpig dropped [ManBearPig Tail] 34 7 Manthra dropped [Average Cotton Robe of Protection] 34 6 Mind Raper dropped [Godly Mana Potion] 34 5 Dalek dropped [Dalek Voicebox] 34 4 You are Victorious! 34 3 Dalek has been defeated.
Ridiculously easy.
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Feb 12 2011, 01:15
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hitokiri84
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The ultimate monster is defeated. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I was only hit about 12 times by its magic/spirit attacks and wasn't hit a single time by normal attacks. Because of that I ended up using 2 Spirit Elixirs. IWBTH 0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=32 (Flying Spaghetti Monster) LV=301 HP=30577125 MP=237 SP=373 NA=50 Type=hostile 0 1 Initializing arena challenge #111 (Round 1 / 1) ... 0 0 Battle Start! 46 7 Spreading Poison hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 1574 damage. Experiment Successful (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) 674 7 Spreading Poison hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 5472 damage. 1179 2 Scanning Flying Spaghetti Monster... HP: 25690568/30577125 MP: 310/1217 SP: 1045/1045 3282 6 Spreading Poison hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 1736 damage. 4097 2 Scanning Flying Spaghetti Monster... HP: 15176699/30577125 MP: 62/1217 SP: 1045/1045 8648 10 You gain 5229811.31 EXP! 8648 9 Your HP and MP have been fully restored! 8648 8 Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Healing] 8648 7 Arena Clear Bonus! [Fine Axe of Balance] 8648 6 Flying Spaghetti Monster dropped [Noodly Appendage] 8648 5 You are Victorious! 8648 4 Flying Spaghetti Monster has been defeated. I feel ripped off. The Arena Clear bonus should be a guarunteed Magnificent drop, or better. Anyway, it's possible to kill FSM on IWBTH in about 2500 turns, if you can figure out what I did to get this: QUOTE Spreading Poison hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 5472 damage.
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Feb 12 2011, 01:19
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Golden Sun
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QUOTE Anyway, it's possible to kill FSM on IWBTH in about 2500 turns, if you can figure out what I did to get this: Dark infusions? It's obviously not economical, since you reverted back to 1k poison damage.
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Feb 12 2011, 01:33
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Feb 11 2011, 17:19) ![*](style_images/ambience/post_snapback.gif) It's obviously not economical, since you reverted back to 1k poison damage. It lasted 450 turns, and it would be very easy to maintain for 2500 turns with preparation now that I know it works. Not that I plan to do that ever again.
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Feb 12 2011, 01:41
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Golden Sun
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1 cast = 450 turns, huh? If not dark infusions, nerf?
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Feb 12 2011, 01:47
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That makes me curious if Bubble-gum or Flower Vases apply to your Poison casts as well.
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Feb 12 2011, 01:55
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Golden Sun
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QUOTE That makes me curious if Bubble-gum or Flower Vases apply to your Poison casts as well.
I hope that isn't it. Item slots are valuable to me. Edit: going to tell us, hito? This post has been edited by Golden Sun: Feb 12 2011, 02:00
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Feb 12 2011, 02:01
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Feb 11 2011, 23:41) ![*](style_images/ambience/post_snapback.gif) 1 cast = 450 turns, huh? If not dark infusions, nerf?
Probably yes. No, nerf is already used, and dark rating shouldn't increase the power of deprecating spells. So my bet is flower vases. This post has been edited by cmdct: Feb 12 2011, 02:02
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Feb 12 2011, 04:33
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Conquest101
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Feb 11 2011, 16:01) ![*](style_images/ambience/post_snapback.gif) Probably yes. No, nerf is already used, and dark rating shouldn't increase the power of deprecating spells. So my bet is flower vases.
It's most likely Flower Vase + Bubblegum, since he said he could maintain it for 2500 turns with a 450 duration poison. At max one can carry 6 sets of the above. 450 x 6 = 2700, so close enough.
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Feb 12 2011, 05:10
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hitokiri84
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Gum is just HP/MP Elixir + all crits.
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Feb 12 2011, 05:26
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Conquest101
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Feb 11 2011, 19:10) ![*](style_images/ambience/post_snapback.gif) Gum is just HP/MP Elixir + all crits.
Is that confirmed via testing or something? "Kicking Ass: Your attacks and spells deal significantly more damage for a short time, will always hit, and will always land critical hits." This post has been edited by Conquest101: Feb 12 2011, 05:27
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Feb 12 2011, 05:31
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Feb 11 2011, 20:33) ![*](style_images/ambience/post_snapback.gif) It's most likely Flower Vase + Bubblegum, since he said he could maintain it for 2500 turns with a 450 duration poison. At max one can carry 6 sets of the above. 450 x 6 = 2700, so close enough.
He's not using flower vase + bubblegum, just flower vase. I haven't tried this myself but reading the descriptions of the items gives me a good idea of what's happening here. It's the same reasoning why nerf improves poison damage, flower vases has the same effect but the magnitude is far greater. Again, this is just speculation on my part, don't really feel like wasting a flower vase to try this out myself right now. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Edit: I'm also pretty sure he's not filling out all his item slots with special items. It's always a good idea to leave room for error and carry mana/spirit items in case the testing fails, which I'm assuming this is his first actual trial. This post has been edited by sushi0: Feb 12 2011, 05:35
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Feb 12 2011, 05:41
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Conquest101
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This is with just my Holy set on Normal: Regular damage: 6 4 Spreading Poison hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 454 damage. Flower Vase: 14 5 Spreading Poison hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 1772 damage. Flower Vase + Gum: 18 5 Spreading Poison hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 3875 damage. So yeah. QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Feb 11 2011, 19:10) ![*](style_images/ambience/post_snapback.gif) Gum is just HP/MP Elixir + all crits.
This also can't be right unless Poison can land as a critical hit. Not to mention the giant damage increase my Banish gets. This post has been edited by Conquest101: Feb 12 2011, 05:42
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Feb 12 2011, 05:47
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Feb 11 2011, 21:31) ![*](style_images/ambience/post_snapback.gif) It's always a good idea to leave room for error and carry mana/spirit items in case the testing fails, which I'm assuming this is his first actual trial. First and final. Unless I want to prove a point. QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Feb 11 2011, 21:41) ![*](style_images/ambience/post_snapback.gif) Flower Vase: 14 5 Spreading Poison hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 1772 damage.
Flower Vase + Gum: 18 5 Spreading Poison hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 3875 damage. If that's the case, then I could probably do it in 1000 turns. I don't have any gum right now though.
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Feb 12 2011, 05:50
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Feb 11 2011, 21:47) ![*](style_images/ambience/post_snapback.gif) If that's the case, then I could probably do it in 1000 turns. I don't have any gum right now though.
QUOTE(sushi0 @ Feb 11 2011, 21:31) ![*](style_images/ambience/post_snapback.gif) He's not using flower vase + bubblegum, just flower vase.
So that means you only used flower vases to get that 5k poison?
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