[X] My Assistant

Damn a boss(2nd) appeared, I could go even farther

Are you doing this with a high damage low ether theft staff?

Are you doing this with a high damage low ether theft staff?

Lol yes, and this staff no one wants do the same thing, ET does nothing for grinding, except when appears a boss, but still you can kill it without using ET, and continue your way. Only when you have low MP that's a issue, but that happens (at least for me now) in later rounds when they just kill you anyway.

Lol yes, and this staff no one wants do the same thing, ET does nothing for grinding, except when appears a boss, but still you can kill it without using ET, and continue your way. Only when you have low MP that's a issue, but that happens (at least for me now) in later rounds when they just kill you anyway.

Good ether theft staffs have some use. Namely, battletoads flimsy and the like.
My problem is that my mp isn't getting restored enough. I die when I run out of mp and items, not when I run out of hp. Do you just rely on Mantras, gems, and second winds to restore mp?
What tier spell are you casting?

Good ether theft staffs have some use. Namely, battletoads flimsy and the like.

Yes, they have for RoB enemies and End of Days, for other arenas isn't really necessary, just save a few items in the last round if you want. Take my example, with 20% ET 1 turn, I could clear all arenas already. Your're don't understand the problem of Battletoads, don't you? All mobs survive, so it appears that you'll have more chance for ET, but this is just for the first rounds, then you'll see the damage of each turn isn't worthy for trying ET, they'll just eat you alive.
Besides it's normal ET don't make much difference, I can get 5 turns (X-Attack+Haste) when I hit boss+ with staff so essentially I have 100% of chance to get ET, more chance only makes me get it sooner.

Look, ET is good to have, but it's the last thing you should look for, when you choose a staff for max damage.
2nd what's the problem of having different staffs for different proposes? I have some for that. (like katalox)

My problem is that my mp isn't getting restored enough. I die when I run out of mp and items, not when I run out of hp. Do you just rely on Mantras, gems, and second winds to restore mp?
What tier spell are you casting?

Didn't I just said ET is useless? 1 monster eat your HP like hell with just one hit, even with 100% ET it's not worthy getting MP.
Tier 3 flames of loki all the way (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Of course you can't, this is a matter of leveling up. There's some mith about thinking on doing this at low levels, with enough power, and that's a mistake:
- You'll need more magic accuracy, like close to +95%.
- You'll need more proficiency
-spells become cheaper as you level up I think

I use the same gear 20 levels below and I couldn't go much farther than +250 levels just as an example.

Sealed Power Cleared ☆ 1st Try

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0 10 Spawned Monster I: MID=7 (Scary Ghost) LV=150 HP=1805 MP=146 SP=0 NA=64 Type=hostile
0 9 Spawned Monster H: MID=1 (Green Slime) LV=149 HP=1495 MP=116 SP=26 NA=77 Type=hostile
0 8 Spawned Monster G: MID=11 (Zombie Cow) LV=145 HP=3490 MP=85 SP=55 NA=68 Type=hostile
0 7 Spawned Monster F: MID=13 (Mind Raper) LV=146 HP=3282 MP=46 SP=43 NA=70 Type=hostile
0 6 Spawned Monster E: MID=19 (Dalek) LV=149 HP=23870 MP=245 SP=135 NA=54 Type=hostile
0 5 Spawned Monster D: MID=15 (Apathetic Canuck) LV=149 HP=3500 MP=152 SP=15 NA=69 Type=hostile
0 4 Spawned Monster C: MID=12 (Manthra) LV=149 HP=3680 MP=89 SP=0 NA=64 Type=hostile
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=18 (Mithra) LV=146 HP=23375 MP=77 SP=26 NA=55 Type=hostile
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=14 (Blue Hedgehog) LV=148 HP=3478 MP=131 SP=62 NA=70 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #23 (Round 50 / 50) ... Sealed Power - 1st Try
0 0 Battle Start!

No special equipment used. Burned a few mid-level mana pots -- I wanted a quick win, regardless of mana burn.

After grinding out +50 Deprec. proficiency over the last week and a half and doing the full set of Arenas plus the 4 Boss Rings (some for only the first time since clearing them), I am burned out and will just do the hourlies for a few days before returning to the Arenas and Item Worlds.

Crusade cleared!

76 14 You gain 35436 Credits!
76 13 You gain 24712.36 EXP!
76 12 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
76 11 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Fine Ruby Shortsword of Balance]
76 10 Mithra dropped [Mithra's Flower]
76 9 Manbearpig dropped [ManBearPig Tail]
76 8 Dalek dropped [Dalek Voicebox]
76 7 You are Victorious!

Can`t believe I was once scared of bosses. Now even 3 of them are harmless (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

@Ichy: You're loving Heart Seeker don't you?

Did I say before I could do +450 rounds of NormalFest without items?
I was wrong, because I can do +500 rounds (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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I even got [i50.tinypic.com] this nasty surprise in the middle.
I didn't try to get any ET at all, ET is official worthless for me in terms of any king of grinding (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by cmdct: Jun 20 2010, 12:16

@Ichy: You're loving Heart Seeker don't you?

I don`t have this skill yet. and I don`t think it will get it so soon.
Against Bosses I don`t really need more damage. PA/poison/silence them then ignore and kill everything else. Gods are pysical immune so...
Well I think I will get it for that fun lvl 200 Arena.

500 rounds? Without Items I can only survive ~100 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I don`t have this skill yet. and I don`t think it will get it so soon.
Against Bosses I don`t really need more damage. PA/poison/silence them then ignore and kill everything else. Gods are pysical immune so...
Well I think I will get it for that fun lvl 200 Arena.

Heart Seeker is not for dealing with bosses only, and it's not worthy to use in RoB.
Heart Seeker increases you attack damage, acc, crit chance, so you'll be killing mobs fast and getting less damage at the same time. In other words it's to be used all time in arena/Grind challenge. I don't know if for the cost is worth, you'll have to ask cmal, but when you get a mystic gem, is definitely worthy to cast it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

500 rounds? Without Items I can only survive ~100 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Nothing special at my level I think, having power enough to clear rounds in 1 shot is easy for any level, but it's needed another 2 important keys, magic accuracy, and mana efficiency (both related to the level)

I didn't try to get any ET at all, ET is official worthless for me in terms of any king of grinding (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

ET in long battles is useful for triggering Channeling to re-cast Arcane Focus or Regen II. I actually lose MP during Ether Theft, as I can cast 2 Weaken for every turn of ET drain, until Channeling catches.

I'll likely not get Heart Seeker, as it's a Melee Ability and my melee is typically limited to whacking a half-dead mob with my Staff. Plus, enhanced melee strength would get in the way of CM>ET>Channeling>AF/R2.

Crusade Cleared (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
So many rounds... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) I don't wanna do it on hard! It took too long on normal! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) I almost fell asleep! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

ET in long battles is useful for triggering Channeling to re-cast Arcane Focus or Regen II. I actually lose MP during Ether Theft, as I can cast 2 Weaken for every turn of ET drain, until Channeling catches.

Not anymore for me, I can grind without Arcane Focus, and regen II can be payed with a single 2nd wind/mana gem, but lasts for 55 turns which means it lasts for +40 rounds, and in that rounds how much 2nd winds I get? Enough to recover the mana spent by regen II and the spells. In fact I also cast haste at full cost, and still recover that cost, it's not like I always pay the full cost for them either, since I can get mystic gems.
On the arena ET and bigger bosses is still good to do that, but since I can already pass without it, why I would lose time to get it?
You understand what I mean, since you use chain lighting to clear the challenges faster.
One day you should try to use the tier 1 spells, you'll see that you don't lose so much time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I'll likely not get Heart Seeker, as it's a Melee Ability and my melee is typically limited to whacking a half-dead mob with my Staff. Plus, enhanced melee strength would get in the way of CM>ET>Channeling>AF/R2.

It's not for maging, it's when I decide to melee again.

This post has been edited by cmdct: Jun 21 2010, 10:46

130 rounds @ lev 130 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) with melee (sword/shield) I think it would have been faster if I went mage and soul attacks.

Was my 2nd try, the first time I had him down to 1-2 hits left but I missed that I lost both silence and spark of life. Got hit with his Timotei for ~3700 dmg (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Now I just need to find a few more tokens for more fun.



130 10 You gain 25595 Credits!
130 9 You gain 6783.99 EXP!
130 8 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
130 7 Arena Token Bonus! Received:[Token of Blood]
130 6 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:[Godly Health Potion]
130 5 Konata dropped [Lock of Blue Hair]
130 4 You are Victorious!

0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=20 (Konata) LV=129 HP=62155 MP=54 SP=104 NA=57 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #105 (Round 1 / 1) ...
0 0 Battle Start!

Dreamfall-Normal

27 11 You gain 16376 Credits!
27 10 You gain 8452.41 EXP!
27 9 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
27 8 Arena Clear Bonus! Received: [Superior Health Potion]
27 7 Dalek dropped [Dalek Voicebox]
27 6 You are Victorious!

0 1 Initializing arena challenge #20
0 0 Battle Start!

I'll give Exile-Normal a try later today.

This post has been edited by 4EverLost: Jun 24 2010, 14:11

Crusade Cleared

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No items used, next challenge, please (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Crusade Cleared

No items used, next challenge, please (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Congrats. I have to use 0-2 super expensive averages for this... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Congrats. I have to use 0-2 super expensive averages for this... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

2 average items expensive lol
Don't forget you don't have all OC bonus filled yet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (I think)

253 9 You gain 25667 Credits!
253 8 You gain 11875.17 EXP!
253 7 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
253 6 Arena Token Bonus! Received:[Token of Healing]
253 5 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:[Superior Health Potion]
253 4 Mikuru Asahina dropped [Bunny-Girl Costume]
253 3 You are Victorious!
253 2 Mikuru Asahina has been defeated.

0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=21 (Mikuru Asahina) LV=130 HP=109905 MP=61 SP=133 NA=52 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #106 (Round 1 / 1) ...
0 0 Battle Start!

. . . . . . . . . .

EXILE - Normal

26 12 You gain 18773 Credits!
26 11 You gain 8514.99 EXP!
26 10 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
26 9 Arena Token Bonus! Received:[Token of Blood]
26 8 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:[Godly Health Draught]
26 7 Manbearpig dropped [ManBearPig Tail]
26 6 Mantitcore dropped [Greater Health Draught]
26 5 You are Victorious!

Killzone cleared.
Hopefully endgame will be more a challenge.

Hopefully endgame will be more a challenge.

After you clear 100, nothing is ever a challenge ever again.

Moved

This post has been edited by Golden Sun: Jun 26 2010, 08:27