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I did 'first clear' the previous Arena as a mage but, I burned even more pots that way, and fighting a Boss with just magic and a staff without PA is slow and dangerous.

What? How? You have a better staff than me, and I don't burn any pots in the last round if I have enough mana for weaken+bewilder+poison+haste+regen+SV+flames of loki+chain lightning, then it's just a matter of using magic missile, I recover mana that way, not lose it, and channeling/ET do all the job, only when I have enough mana to kill it I shot him to death.

This post has been edited by cmdct: May 8 2010, 12:10

What? How? You have a better staff than me, and I don't burn any pots in the last round if I have enough mana for weaken+bewilder+poison+haste+regen+SV+flames of loki+chain lightning, then it's just a matter of using magic missile, I recover mana that way, not lose it, and channeling/ET do all the job, only when I have enough mana to kill it I shot him to death.

The pots are burnt getting to the Final Round and the Boss. With DW, I save a few hundred MP in the early rounds by just straight DW meleeing through them, and then using the Rapier to clean-up the survivors from the opening AOE Blast on Turn 1 of a round. I use Tier II AOE magic so, there's nothing to get ET from, and it's 19 MP per AOE. The danger comes from letting a battle last too long and getting Crit Skilled, especially by a Boss.

I could be much more mana efficient but, I want my rounds done reliable quick, even if it means overkill magic blasts.

In case you hadn't realised, you can try the next one right now.

Yes, I noticed. I'm going to be redistributing my AP in the near future to max out MP tanks, so I'm waiting until after that.

Feast for Crows cleared. Two Average Mana Draughts and one Average Mana Potion used.

You didn't clear without items yet?
Well I did it now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Feast for Crows cleared

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No items used
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This post has been edited by cmdct: May 9 2010, 17:09

You didn't clear without items yet?

I hadn't when you posted, but I have as of 5 minutes ago. Of course, there's a lot of luck involved, what with Second Winds and Gems, so it isn't really a measure of the player's skill. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I hadn't when you posted, but I have as of 5 minutes ago. Of course, there's a lot of luck involved, what with Second Winds and Gems, so it isn't really a measure of the player's skill. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Funny for me is other way around, I even had a crap luck of only getting arcana focus after +20 levels cleared.
Essentially, I need 2 channellings, 1st I try to get in the very first rounds, so I can cast Arcana Focus, which avoid me being raped by those 4-5 mini-bosses rounds, then I have to find mystic gem or try to get a channeling by the end of the duration of arcana focus.
What more? I just cast thunderstorm and inferno until 1-2 mini-bosses are still alive, and try to get ether theft so I recover the mana I spend on SV ,haste, regen and occasional cure, I lose very few mana per round that way, and sometimes it even raise if lucky. I won't try channeling it's a waste of MP, only when I need the 2nd Arcana Focus I try to get it, but only in the final tick of ET so I won't lose much recovered mana.
Second Winds and Gems also help, but they aren't the most important factor here, it's the number of mini-bosses, I think I even cleared more times Exile than Dreamfall without items because of that.

This post has been edited by cmdct: May 10 2010, 12:10

Finished Blazing Field at a bargain of only one superior health draught used!

9 10 You gain 2019 Credits!
9 9 You gain 191.64 EXP!
9 8 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
9 7 Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]
9 6 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Greater Health Draught]
9 5 You are Victorious!

Feast for Crows cleared

I've cleared it on Battletoads.

I've cleared it on Battletoads.

Without items? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I've cleared it on Battletoads.

Without items? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Hell no. I go through items like crazy clearing arenas on battletoads.

I just cast thunderstorm and inferno until 1-2 mini-bosses are still alive

I think I see where I'm going wrong. I don't have tier 1 spells, so I have to use Column Lightning and Meteor. Nothing is left alive except for the occasional Manthra, so it can be quite hard to get Ether Theft in the later rounds.

4 6 You have been defeated.
4 5 Rabid Hamster has been defeated.
4 4 Searing Skin hits Rabid Hamster for 81 damage.
4 3 Rabid Hamster hits you for 64 piercing damage.
4 2 You evade the attack from Fire Fox.
4 1 Fire Fox evades your attack.
0 9 Spawned Monster H: MID=10 (Blue Slime) LV=51 HP=535 MP=12 SP=2 NA=93 Type=hostile
0 8 Spawned Monster G: MID=26 (Amphibious Sperm Whale) LV=51 HP=600 MP=34 SP=8 NA=90
Type=hostile
0 7 Spawned Monster F: MID=8 (Rabid Hamster) LV=51 HP=540 MP=47 SP=2 NA=93 Type=hostile
0 6 Spawned Monster E: MID=1 (Green Slime) LV=52 HP=535 MP=43 SP=14 NA=93 Type=hostile
0 5 Spawned Monster D: MID=25 (Mutant Peacock) LV=53 HP=625 MP=0 SP=18 NA=90 Type=hostile
0 4 Spawned Monster C: MID=3 (Mantitcore) LV=53 HP=565 MP=26 SP=0 NA=92 Type=hostile
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=6 (Fire Fox) LV=51 HP=560 MP=47 SP=8 NA=92 Type=hostile
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=7 (Scary Ghost) LV=49 HP=601 MP=20 SP=8 NA=89 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing Grindfest (Round 32) ...
0 0 Battle Start!

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) yeah only 32 rounds (with 4 superior mana potions and 2 superior health potions)
IW is a lot easier... yeah just a terrible result as I´ve made as good as no exp. compared to an average IW, and
the credit drop didn´t even catch up with the average item/sell credit gain from IW...
IW is much more exp/cred efficient for me atm...

edit: almost forgot, my average IW round is 60 atm, with only lesser and average potions....

This post has been edited by HybridGuardian: May 11 2010, 15:08

7 12 You gain 3016 Credits!
7 11 You gain 200.95 EXP!
7 10 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
7 9 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Average Mana Draught]
7 8 You are Victorious!

Cleared fresh meat! (The easy way (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ... used 2 superior health potions, 1 superior mana potions, 1 mana elexier and a scroll of the gods)

Round 99 on cake ):. Really wanted to get to 100 but couldnt q_q. DW fails in the long run, or should I say melee fails.

Trio and the Tree done. I'm a Godslayer now.
It was easier than expected.

The pots are burnt getting to the Final Round and the Boss. With DW, I save a few hundred MP in the early rounds by just straight DW meleeing through them, and then using the Rapier to clean-up the survivors from the opening AOE Blast on Turn 1 of a round. I use Tier II AOE magic so, there's nothing to get ET from, and it's 19 MP per AOE. The danger comes from letting a battle last too long and getting Crit Skilled, especially by a Boss.

I could be much more mana efficient but, I want my rounds done reliable quick, even if it means overkill magic blasts.

I think I see where I'm going wrong. I don't have tier 1 spells, so I have to use Column Lightning and Meteor. Nothing is left alive except for the occasional Manthra, so it can be quite hard to get Ether Theft in the later rounds.

Yep, your problem are using the 2nd tier instead of the 1st one.

The result of trading 43.7 evasion, 0 elemental proficiency with 28,4 evasion, 86.85 elemental proficiency:

[i42.tinypic.com] EndGame
[i40.tinypic.com] Twisted Plots
[i43.tinypic.com] Longest Journey
[i42.tinypic.com] DreamFall
[i39.tinypic.com] Exile
[i41.tinypic.com] Fest for Crows

All cleared without items, and in the last round I did not recovered any simple point of mana via ET.
This is so mana eficient that I bet I could clear all the arenas until Kill a god without items.

@Alpha 7: I told ya, it's what you're thinking, I should use elementalist gear sooner.

The result of trading 43.7 evasion, 0 elemental proficiency with 28,4 evasion, 86.85 elemental proficiency.

I have 46.6% evasion, 10.5% physical mitigation (surprisingly high for all cloth), and an elemental proficiency bonus of 165.67.

Trio and the Tree done. I'm a Godslayer now.
It was easier than expected.

Its a lot easier than fighting in the Ring. You just have to pay more attention since there are 4 of them and they have death procs that may or may not be something to watch out for (I've fought them over a dozen times and I still don't know if they really hurt that much...). Also, Ygg can cast heals, but nothing a little Silence can't cure.

Also, Ygg can cast heals, but nothing a little Silence can't cure.

You're going to go to hell for that pun.

I have 46.6% evasion, 10.5% physical mitigation (surprisingly high for all cloth), and an elemental proficiency bonus of 165.67.

elemental proficiency bonus is without counting staff I assume, but that wasn't my point.
My point was to show how the power of elementalist brings more protection than the extra evasion silk provides, but since you're showing your stats, I can estimate +51.6 evasion minimum in level 200 (Godslayer title included), and I current have +7.3% physical mitigation, but don't know if I can get the 10.5% at level 200, you have to show your gear so I can compare what scales for me.

This post has been edited by cmdct: May 14 2010, 23:14