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post Nov 6 2009, 18:42
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I propose to make Battousai Legendary as True Final Hidden Bonus Boss from Hell Batteltoads of HV.
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post Nov 6 2009, 20:08
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QUOTE(uth @ Nov 6 2009, 10:06) *

Wow, what kind of consumables do you need to beat Endgame like that...

Well let's see...
The first time I tried it, I used 11 Godly mana items and 2 Mana elixirs and ran out when MBP had out 5-10 hits worth of health left (the bosses become stronger than Lengendaries on Normal.)

The second time I tried it, I took 10 Godly and 3 Elixirs. I had all 3 Elixirs remaining going into the final round and promptly got raped by White Bunneh piercing damage (hitting me for 600-800 per turn with Weaken.)

The third time I tried again with 10 and 3 and ended up being killed by some freak Moo crit by Zombie Cow through my Absorb on round 17. 2600 damage or some nonsense like that.

4th and final time, I played it safe with 9 Godly and 4 Elixir, used more depreciating/supportive than I had to, and I also ended up with MBP again, so it was a little easier with the slashing damage. I threw in a couple of Haste + Haste Scrolls on the final round too to get rid of the lesser monsters without taking a ton of damage.

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post Nov 6 2009, 21:09
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ENDGAME CLEARED!


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I'm Ascended now!
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post Nov 7 2009, 00:23
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QUOTE(bbgr @ Nov 1 2009, 20:51) *

Not bad on Normal:

0 8 Spawned Monster G: MID=4 (Cockatrice) LV=105 HP=1060 MP=91 SP=25 NA=84 Type=hostile
0 7 Spawned Monster F: MID=9 (Cookie Monster) LV=104 HP=1071 MP=0 SP=32 NA=84 Type=hostile
0 6 Spawned Monster E: MID=1 (Green Slime) LV=102 HP=1030 MP=100 SP=7 NA=85 Type=hostile
0 5 Spawned Monster D: MID=7 (Scary Ghost) LV=103 HP=1244 MP=65 SP=27 NA=76 Type=hostile
0 4 Spawned Monster C: MID=26 (Amphibious Sperm Whale) LV=107 HP=1240 MP=101 SP=35 NA=78 Type=hostile
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=3 (Mantitcore) LV=106 HP=1110 MP=8 SP=15 NA=82 Type=hostile
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=25 (Mutant Peacock) LV=106 HP=1225 MP=63 SP=14 NA=79 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing Grindfest (Round 24) ...
0 0 Battle Start!


I made it to Level 18 on NormalFest for the first time. The Rise of the Magi is true. This is a few levels higher then I could do as a Tank.
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post Nov 7 2009, 00:35
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QUOTE(EvolutionKing @ Nov 6 2009, 16:09) *

ENDGAME CLEARED!


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I'm Ascended now!

Congrats. I saw you buy that flower vase for Endgame, did you have to use it?

I actually find endgame to be much easier than killzone, especially on harder difficulties.
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post Nov 7 2009, 00:42
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Nov 6 2009, 17:35) *

I actually find endgame to be much easier than killzone, especially on harder difficulties.

Wat.
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post Nov 7 2009, 01:01
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Nov 6 2009, 16:35) *
I actually find endgame to be much easier than killzone, especially on harder difficulties.

You might change your mind if you try it on Battletoads.
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post Nov 7 2009, 01:18
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QUOTE(cmal @ Nov 6 2009, 19:42) *

Wat.


Killzone(18): 3,3,4,4,4,4,4,5,6^,6^,6^,6^^,6^^,6^^,6^^,6^^,6^^,7^^^
Endgame(20): 2,2,2,2,2,2,3^,3^,3^,3^,3^,3^,3^,4^^,4^^,5^^,5^^,5^^,7^^#

By the way, this shows the wiki is wrong, since Endgame only has 19 rounds listed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I knew there were some arena wiki parts that needed fixing. I'll correct it when I next do endgame.

The point is, you fight fewer monsters per round on endgame then you do on killzone. On harder difficulties it is much, much easier if there's a smaller number of monsters, even if they are more powerful. You see all those "6^^"'s on Endgame? No? I didn't think so.

It's possible this doesn't hold true for everyone. I can see how it could be different for two-handed players and mages, but for dual wield and 1hand, where you're generally limited to attacking one monster at a time, increasing average number of mobs per round has a enormous impact on difficulty.

That's why the jump from Dreamfall to Exile is so huge; it's not simply the number of rounds or the number of mini-bosses per round, but the general number of regular mobs along side them. It's also why the jump from Exile to Feast for Crows isn't quite as painful.

There's a bit more intricate reason to this too: besides the obvious fact they simply cause more damage, when there are lots of regular mobs they cause absorb to be activated by relatively harmless spells like haunt, bukkake and bouip instead of by MeH, Moo, or Toddlerguro, and that's very painful and means absorb has to be cast more often.

I'll take 4 mini-bosses over 3minibosses + 3 regular mobs any day.

QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Nov 6 2009, 20:01) *

You might change your mind if you try it on Battletoads.

I might, but I'd have to be a complete moron to try it on Battletoads (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I can beat it up to Heroic without feeling too stressed, and could probably go up to Nightmare if I were willing to spend the mana items for it.

tldr; I find Endgame on Hard easier and less mana costly then Killzone on Normal.

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post Nov 7 2009, 06:11
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Nov 6 2009, 17:35) *

Congrats. I saw you buy that flower vase for Endgame, did you have to use it?

I actually find endgame to be much easier than killzone, especially on harder difficulties.
Yes I did.
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post Nov 8 2009, 08:59
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TWISTED PLOTS CLEARED!

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post Nov 9 2009, 02:55
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Not bad on Normal lot of yummy exp. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

0 9 Spawned Monster H: MID=2 (Tentacle Monster) LV=106 HP=1101 MP=132 SP=38 NA=84 Type=hostile
0 8 Spawned Monster G: MID=25 (Mutant Peacock) LV=107 HP=1240 MP=5 SP=31 NA=78 Type=hostile
0 7 Spawned Monster F: MID=7 (Scary Ghost) LV=109 HP=1316 MP=36 SP=32 NA=74 Type=hostile
0 6 Spawned Monster E: MID=3 (Mantitcore) LV=104 HP=1090 MP=121 SP=3 NA=83 Type=hostile
0 5 Spawned Monster D: MID=10 (Blue Slime) LV=105 HP=1081 MP=3 SP=28 NA=84 Type=hostile
0 4 Spawned Monster C: MID=8 (Rabid Hamster) LV=106 HP=1101 MP=72 SP=26 NA=84 Type=hostile
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=1 (Green Slime) LV=107 HP=1080 MP=132 SP=12 NA=84 Type=hostile
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=9 (Cookie Monster) LV=106 HP=1091 MP=49 SP=19 NA=84 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing Grindfest (Round 24) ...
0 0 Battle Start!
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post Nov 10 2009, 07:36
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New Wings Cleared

82 11 You gain 30896 Credits!
82 10 You gain 9968 EXP!
82 9 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
82 8 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Average Sapphire Shortsword]
82 7 Mithra dropped [Mithra's Flower]
82 6 Dalek dropped [Dalek Voicebox]
82 5 You are Victorious!
82 4 Dalek has been defeated.

Used 5 godly and 3 superior mana draughts
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post Nov 11 2009, 02:16
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QUOTE(bbgr @ Nov 8 2009, 20:55) *

Not bad on Normal lot of yummy exp. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

0 1 Initializing Grindfest (Round 24) ...
0 0 Battle Start!


I am getting closer, bbgr...

NormalFest...

1 1 You use Flee.
0 8 Spawned Monster G: MID=7 (Scary Ghost) LV=66 HP=802 MP=37 SP=0 NA=85 Type=hostile
0 7 Spawned Monster F: MID=3 (Mantitcore) LV=64 HP=678 MP=0 SP=13 NA=90 Type=hostile
0 6 Spawned Monster E: MID=26 (Amphibious Sperm Whale) LV=66 HP=770 MP=41 SP=21 NA=87 Type=hostile
0 5 Spawned Monster D: MID=12 (Manthra) LV=69 HP=1722 MP=36 SP=18 NA=84 Type=hostile
0 4 Spawned Monster C: MID=6 (Fire Fox) LV=65 HP=708 MP=27 SP=21 NA=90 Type=hostile
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=8 (Rabid Hamster) LV=64 HP=670 MP=75 SP=4 NA=91 Type=hostile
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=2 (Tentacle Monster) LV=64 HP=670 MP=59 SP=19 NA=91 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing Grindfest (Round 21) ...
0 0 Battle Start!

First time I cleared Round 20. Manthra + 2 MP left + no pots left = Flee. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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BLAZING FIELD - CLEARED - 1ST TRY


8 10 You gain 2020 Credits!
8 9 You gain 807.51 EXP! <-- New Highest Ever EXP!!!
8 8 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
8 7 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Infusion of Gaia] <-- 1st ever.
8 6 Rabid Hamster dropped [Lesser Mana Potion]
8 5 You are Victorious!
8 4 Regeneration restores you with 52 points of health.
8 3 Scary Ghost has been defeated.
8 2 You hit Scary Ghost for 112 crushing damage.
8 1 You gain 0.01 points of staff proficiency.

0 1 Initializing arena challenge #10 (Round 8 / 8) ...
0 0 Battle Start!


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post Nov 11 2009, 07:01
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Feast for Crows cleared. Seven godly mana draughts used.

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post Nov 11 2009, 07:17
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QUOTE(megaplayboy @ Nov 11 2009, 02:01) *

Feast for Crows cleared. Seven godly mana draughts used.

Congrats but, damn! I use like 5 greater mana draughts and 2-3 superior. And that's when I'm having a hard time.
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Nov 10 2009, 21:17) *

Congrats but, damn! I use like 5 greater mana draughts and 2-3 superior. And that's when I'm having a hard time.

Thanks. I managed to clear the first 35 rounds with 2 godly mana draughts, and the last 10 rounds with 5.
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post Nov 11 2009, 10:56
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I just did 171 rounds of Cakefest. OMG, that's the most I've ever done.
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post Nov 12 2009, 02:33
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Sealed Power Cleared!

90 12 You gain 25794 Credits! Whoot!
90 11 You gain 28260.11 EXP!
90 10 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
90 9 Arena Token Bonus! Received: [Token of Blood] Yay
90 8 Arena Clear Bonus! Received: [Average Cotton Cap of Protection] WHAT THE MOTHERFUCKING HELL!?
90 7 You have obtained the title: Destined I have no idea why I'm getting this now, but yay
90 6 Dalek dropped [Dalek Voicebox]
90 5 Mithra dropped [Mithra's Flower]
90 4 You are Victorious!

It took 3 superior mana draughts, but I got an ungodly number of 2nd winds, so that's probably not normal. It's actually less than I use in Exile and Feast for Crows, but I think this arena may actually be easier.

Also, WTF is with an average cotton cap clear bonus on a 50 round arena ending in two bosses?
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post Nov 12 2009, 02:37
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Ya I usually use less items on sealed power too... Think it just says whatever title you have on when you clear an arena for the first time now that they don't change with level.


And your actually using the destined title???.... -10% burden seems kind of meh compared to 2% evade.

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post Nov 12 2009, 02:48
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And your actually using the destined title???.... -10% burden seems kind of meh compared to 2% evade.

Depends on what type of armor you use. If you use heavy, that's 10% off probably 120 burden, so 12 more action speed. Pair that with proficiency, and you might take less damage.

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