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post Oct 27 2009, 07:44
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My first legendary: Manbearpig
My level at that time: 77

143 7 Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]
143 6 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Greater Health Draught]
143 5 Manbearpig dropped [ManBearPig Tail]

The biggest shock was the pitful amoubt of damage I was doing: ~40 damage - and the damn thing had 12k health to start with!!

Took 8 Godlies (2 of each kind).

Shrine offering: Manbearpig Tail: Fair Platinium Sword (WTF??)

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post Oct 27 2009, 12:37
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QUOTE(Red_Piotrus @ Oct 27 2009, 06:44) *

Shrine offering: Manbearpig Tail: Fair Platinium Sword (WTF??)

Get used to it sometimes it can be flimsy too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif).
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post Oct 27 2009, 23:13
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Exile cleared. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Ten godly mana draughts were used. I don't think I'll try it too many times since it's not very rewarding to clear it repeatedly with reward being so little.

88 11 You gain 18260 Credits!
88 10 You gain 5802.96 EXP!
88 9 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
88 8 Arena Clear Bonus! Received: [Fine Emerald-trimmed Cotton Pants of Protection]
88 7 Mithra dropped [Mithra's Flower]
88 6 You are Victorious!

0 10 Spawned Monster I: MID=10 (Blue Slime) LV=128 HP=1315 MP=135 SP=33 NA=80 Type=hostile
0 9 Spawned Monster H: MID=15 (Apathetic Canuck) LV=129 HP=3032 MP=82 SP=4 NA=74 Type=hostile
0 8 Spawned Monster G: MID=18 (Mithra) LV=128 HP=20515 MP=67 SP=101 NA=61 Type=hostile
0 7 Spawned Monster F: MID=13 (Mind Raper) LV=126 HP=2836 MP=84 SP=2 NA=74 Type=hostile
0 6 Spawned Monster E: MID=14 (Blue Hedgehog) LV=126 HP=2962 MP=135 SP=35 NA=74 Type=hostile
0 5 Spawned Monster D: MID=7 (Scary Ghost) LV=126 HP=1522 MP=69 SP=29 NA=70 Type=hostile
0 4 Spawned Monster C: MID=26 (Amphibious Sperm Whale) LV=129 HP=1490 MP=129 SP=43 NA=74 Type=hostile
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=11 (Zombie Cow) LV=129 HP=3110 MP=3 SP=3 NA=72 Type=hostile
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=12 (Manthra) LV=127 HP=3140 MP=16 SP=3 NA=70 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #21 (Round 40 / 40) ...
0 0 Battle Start!

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post Oct 27 2009, 23:21
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QUOTE(megaplayboy @ Oct 27 2009, 17:13) *

Exile cleared. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Ten godly mana draughts were used. I don't think I'll try it too many times since it's not very rewarding to clear it repeatedly with reward being so little.

Congrats. My main problem is paying attention to my health and being prepared for supercrits. It's not like I even run out of mp or items, I just tend to think my health is in the clear when it's at 35-40%, and then jiggle AND meh crit me for over 1000 damage each and the hedgehog just whacks me over the head with its usual attack and I'm like wtf? I'm gonna give it a shot with a bit more liberal use of spark of life, and see if I don't have an easier time. With my new item slot (yay level 150!) I might even just bring a scroll of life or two. I may also give it a try with my club as the mainhand. It's not so useful on higher difficulties because PA is needed to get through the ridiculous amount of hp, but on normal it might actually give an advantage to be able to stun the mini-bosses.

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post Oct 28 2009, 01:00
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Oct 27 2009, 13:21) *

Congrats. My main problem is paying attention to my health and being prepared for supercrits. It's not like I even run out of mp or items, I just tend to think my health is in the clear when it's at 35-40%, and then jiggle AND meh crit me for over 1000 damage each and the hedgehog just whacks me over the head with its usual attack and I'm like wtf? I'm gonna give it a shot with a bit more liberal use of spark of life, and see if I don't have an easier time. With my new item slot (yay level 150!) I might even just bring a scroll of life or two. I may also give it a try with my club as the mainhand. It's not so useful on higher difficulties because PA is needed to get through the ridiculous amount of hp, but on normal it might actually give an advantage to be able to stun the mini-bosses.

I usually keep my health 40% for normal and 45% for harder difficulties. With shield, cloth, and light armors, monsters have no chance of ganging up on me on one turn.

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post Oct 28 2009, 02:12
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QUOTE(megaplayboy @ Oct 28 2009, 01:00) *

I usually keep my health 40% for normal and 45% for harder difficulties. With shield, cloth, and light armors, monsters have no chance of ganging up on me on one turn.


You might want to change that, as we now heal at the end of each turn rather than at the beginning.
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post Oct 28 2009, 02:22
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I beat endgame on heroic for the first time. And wanted to scream.

112 13 You gain 1113 Credits!
112 12 You gain 21534.21 EXP!
112 11 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
112 10 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Greater Health Potion]
112 9 Mithra dropped [Mithra's Flower]
112 8 Green Slime dropped [Superior Health Draught]

Not even godlies, although admittedly I would've been annoyed with those too. But a greater health potion?
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post Oct 28 2009, 03:40
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Ya I really wish difficulty setting had a bigger impact on item quality/equipment drop percent. This is what I got for Twisted plots heroic, and I got a crude shortsword for the trophy...

162 12 You gain 1637 Credits!
162 11 You gain 9167.27 EXP!
162 10 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
162 9 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Greater Health Draught]
162 8 Zombie Cow dropped [Godly Health Draught]
162 7 Manbearpig dropped [ManBearPig Tail]
162 6 You are Victorious!
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post Oct 28 2009, 04:20
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Well, since battletoads only gives you a 2x quality modifier on a certain portion of the quality, heroic is probably only a 1.2 modifier or so.

While better than nothing, most of the time it'll be barely noticeable.
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post Oct 28 2009, 04:27
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ya even the battletoads modifier is unnoticeable since I still get lesser potions on battletoads road less traveled....just wish that it was somewhat noticeable.
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post Oct 28 2009, 05:27
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Beat Sealed Power, used 2 mana elixirs, 3 godly mana draughts, 2 godly mana potions, and 3 superior mana draughts. probably could have subbed 1 mana elixir for a godly, or even maybe a superior draught, weaken ran out on both bosses at the end with one at 10% hp and the other at like 70%. Man AP poison takes like half their health for me.....

136 15 You gain 25621 Credits!
136 14 You gain 9621.36 EXP!
136 13 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
136 12 Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]
136 11 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Average Sapphire-adorned Leather Boots of Warding]
136 10 You have obtained the title: Destined
136 9 Mithra dropped [Mithra's Flower]
136 8 White Bunneh dropped [Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch]
136 7 You are Victorious!

lol I just realized I still haven't used nerf yet....

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post Oct 28 2009, 07:28
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QUOTE(uth @ Oct 27 2009, 21:40) *

Ya I really wish difficulty setting had a bigger impact on item quality/equipment drop percent. This is what I got for Twisted plots heroic, and I got a crude shortsword for the trophy...

162 12 You gain 1637 Credits!
162 11 You gain 9167.27 EXP!
162 10 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
162 9 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Greater Health Draught]
162 8 Zombie Cow dropped [Godly Health Draught]
162 7 Manbearpig dropped [ManBearPig Tail]
162 6 You are Victorious!

Twisted Plots Heroic:

104 9 You gain 1613 Credits!
104 8 You gain 21682.51 EXP!
104 7 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
104 6 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Superior Mana Potion]

This is bs. I've got 10 Luck of the Draw, and heroic will probably give a 1.2-1.3x multiplier to the bonus. Either the cumulative round bonuses need to increase, or the multiplier for the difficulty level need to increase.
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post Oct 28 2009, 07:38
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Oct 28 2009, 00:28) *

... cumulative round bonuses ...


? Isn't that only for grindfest?

one of the big sucker punches is that it also as far as I know difficulty does not adjust the ratios of restoratives to other, so 50-90% of the time (depending on the arena level) you still get a potion regardless of the difficulty, and with elixirs moved the best you could possibly do is a godly potion even on battletoads.

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post Oct 28 2009, 08:09
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QUOTE(marcho @ Oct 28 2009, 01:38) *

? Isn't that only for grindfest?

If it is, that's a good place to start making changes.

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one of the big sucker punches is that it also as far as I know difficulty does not adjust the ratios of restoratives to other, so 50-90% of the time (depending on the arena level) you still get a potion regardless of the difficulty, and with elixirs moved the best you could possibly do is a godly potion even on battletoads.

That needs to be changed too. Either the base chance for specials and other needs be increased and common consumables decreased, or idk. But as is, the thrill of winning is now gone. There's this nice little feeling after you've plowed your way through 30 rounds on hard or 25 rounds on heroic, and fought a boss, and then find some kickass piece of equipment (or at least something decent) or a soul stone or something. Not a superior health draught. That just kills it.
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post Oct 28 2009, 15:51
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Nice recod on Heroic:

0 5 Spawned Monster D: MID=10 (Blue Slime) LV=102 HP=3150 MP=37 SP=23 NA=85 Type=hostile
0 4 Spawned Monster C: MID=4 (Cockatrice) LV=103 HP=3120 MP=41 SP=12 NA=84 Type=hostile
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=26 (Amphibious Sperm Whale) LV=104 HP=3615 MP=60 SP=35 NA=79 Type=hostile
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=5 (Giant Panda) LV=101 HP=3150 MP=24 SP=17 NA=85 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing Grindfest (Round 11) ...
0 0 Battle Start!
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post Oct 28 2009, 16:09
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QUOTE(megaplayboy @ Oct 27 2009, 22:13) *

Exile cleared. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Ten godly mana draughts were used. I don't think I'll try it too many times since it's not very rewarding to clear it repeatedly with reward being so little.

God i must be doing something wrong i can hardly clear dreamfall with 5 health elixirs+ 5 godla mana draughts+2 mana elixir, and im a few lvl above you too.
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post Oct 28 2009, 21:12
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QUOTE(Eutopia @ Oct 28 2009, 06:09) *

God i must be doing something wrong i can hardly clear dreamfall with 5 health elixirs+ 5 godla mana draughts+2 mana elixir, and im a few lvl above you too.

A shield with high block chance kind of helps. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Oct 29 2009, 02:39
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QUOTE(Eutopia @ Oct 28 2009, 10:09) *

God i must be doing something wrong i can hardly clear dreamfall with 5 health elixirs+ 5 godla mana draughts+2 mana elixir, and im a few lvl above you too.

Uhh... I think you are. Even at my worst of times, my main issue with Exile was not running out of mana, but just not paying attention to my health as I got bashed to death by 4 mini-bosses at a time. I cleared it today with 6 superior mana draughts.


Feast For Crows Cleared!

65 9 You gain 20279 Credits!
65 8 You gain 14252.29 EXP!
65 7 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
65 6 Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]
65 5 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Godly Mana Potion]
65 4 White Bunneh dropped [Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch]
65 3 You are Victorious!

Sucky reward, but I'm happy with how it turned out anyway since I used 6 godly mana draughts, but I had ZERO 2nd winds, either hp or mp, between rounds 30-45, so I think generally I won't need even that. A major thing (that's obvious but you forget) is that doing up to Longest Journey or Dreamfall on hard difficulty makes doing the next arena on normal seem a lot easier than it used to lol. I breezed through exile and aside from my lack of 2nd winds, had much less trouble then I expected with Feast For Crows.

I also went from using 3 plate and 2 cloth to 2 plate and 3 cloth. This happened by accident, and I'm thankful for it. I was using the latter setup to do ring of blood fights so I'd have less interference and burden, and I forgot to switch back. I've been having a much easier time ever since.

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post Oct 29 2009, 20:57
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288 2 Mikuru Asahina has been defeated.

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I was beginning to think I'd never get the other Token I needed to challenge her, but one finally turned up today.

She had 61965HP, pretty much what I'd been led to expect (thanks again guys). Items used: 4 Mana Elixirs, 3 Spirit Elixirs. Which is fine, as I have no other use for such powerful items. Actually I only got four decent Spirit attacks out of those Elixirs - you'd think a 20% chance of Penetrated Armor for three turns would give good odds of it being in effect when I needed to take the first shot (ie after 4 or 5 turns of recharging), but not today.

I'm going to hold on to the Bunny-Girl Costume for a bit, not because I'm some kind of pervert but in case something bad happens to all my high level equipment when 0.4 comes out...
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post Oct 29 2009, 23:00
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Ryouko Asakura cleared. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Six godly mana draughts used.

367 9 You gain 25416 Credits!
367 8 You gain 8115.33 EXP!
367 7 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
367 6 Arena Token Bonus! Received: [Token of Blood]
367 5 Arena Clear Bonus! Received: [Godly Health Draught]
367 4 Ryouko Asakura dropped [Hinamatsuri Doll]
367 3 You are Victorious!
367 2 Ryouko Asakura has been defeated.


I'll probably try Real Life soon. What's a good strategy to beat Real Life?




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