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post Apr 14 2015, 12:56
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 14 2015, 11:47) *


PFUDOR DwD takes too long. 1 h 50 min with infusions, last time I tried.
PFUDOR T&T takes 20-25 minutes. High-tier mage can clear same in ~700 turns (unsure on how much time that would be).


i guess you were referring to me as the mage, so I'll give some more stats for better comparison. My clearing record of pfudor T&T is 1870 turns, 11m, with 1H; 685 turns, 6m with holy.

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post Apr 14 2015, 12:59
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post Apr 14 2015, 13:01
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post Apr 14 2015, 13:15
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 14 2015, 13:56) *

i guess you were referring to me as the mage, so I'll give some more stats for better comparison. My clearing record of pfudor T&T is 1870 turns, 11m, with 1H; 685 turns, 6m with holy.


If you don't mind could you explain further how you spend your turns as mage?
Like after buffing up you just blast away with T1 spells or debuffing enemy then T3 spells?
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post Apr 14 2015, 13:27
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QUOTE(ankwchi @ Apr 14 2015, 22:15) *

If you don't mind could you explain further how you spend your turns as mage?
Like after buffing up you just blast away with T1 spells or debuffing enemy then T3 spells?


in arena and iw, generally runs where i don't have to conserve mana, I use imperil on monster with their hp > 70% of the monster with highest hp (i use hp scaling to see this visually) and i will keep trying even if resisted, then T3. The percentage needs to scale with prof ratio, 70% at 2.0 and 50% at 1.0.

You can always just imperil everything like everyone else, but that seems to make my run last 800 turns. Keep in mind that NOT using imperil except in the last round with 2.0 prof takes me 800-850 turns.

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post Apr 14 2015, 13:52
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this is like ask who is the best superhero in a comic-con.

ok i'm serious now. xD. I'm level 245 now, been melee from start. If i change to mage in lvl 300, i will have 0 proficiency backup. It doesn't like start over again?.

Sorry my english, not my first language
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post Apr 14 2015, 21:20
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 14 2015, 11:36) *

Cost is similar to 1h, maybe a bit less, assuming you don't forge. You won't be able to play on as high difficulty as you can with 1h - maybe PFUDOR as 1h but only Hell or Battletoads as mage - but you'll be able to clear a lot faster as mage (once you get the T3 spell). Holy/Dark is probably the better choice before 450.


Thank you for answering my question, I have been testing mage abit today, it wasn't exactly stable, but I suppose a little tweaking of gear/strategy would be in order since I'm not used to it. Guess I'll stick to 1h/dual for now and just do some prof for mage now and then.
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post Apr 14 2015, 21:28
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Apr 14 2015, 07:01) *

I will become mages if I'm not poor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


How many mages will you become?
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post Apr 14 2015, 21:39
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ Apr 15 2015, 02:28) *

How many mages will you become?

just one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

typo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

just lack of fund at the moment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)



btw , how fast you can finish T&T PFU with your estoc , jenga ?

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post Apr 14 2015, 23:50
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Apr 14 2015, 15:39) *

just one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

typo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

just lack of fund at the moment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
btw , how fast you can finish T&T PFU with your estoc , jenga ?


Just my opinion.. go for mag max items and forge them all +5. You will have a 20k mage score in no time.

I don't quite remember times.. its been a long time since i've been melee. Probably 10-12 minutes?
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post Apr 15 2015, 06:55
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post Apr 15 2015, 12:47
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ Apr 15 2015, 00:50) *
Just my opinion.. go for mag max items and forge them all +5. You will have a 20k mage score in no time.

it will not give even 17k for L394 ^^ hurry up - the faster you get L500, the sooner will be patch
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post Apr 16 2015, 18:43
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Well, went ahead and got a basic cheap rapier from the ever estimable holy_demon, I'll have to IW grind it a bit now and then I'll give it a spin. I'll have to keep an eye out for a helmet and gauntlets of slaughter too.
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post Apr 20 2015, 14:32
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melee only
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post Apr 20 2015, 20:59
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Would like to try mage but just not powerful enough to pull it off. Melee works fine at the moment.

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post Apr 20 2015, 21:56
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Would like to try mage but just not powerful enough to pull it off. Melee works fine at the moment.

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With your name, you're not mage ? incredible :þ
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post Apr 20 2015, 22:41
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I'd switch to holy too but its too expensive.
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post Apr 21 2015, 07:02
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I got this one so I wanna play mage but I'm too poor to buy a cheap set.
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post Apr 21 2015, 21:38
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post Apr 24 2015, 00:59
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I'm a mage, but I'd go back to melee just to see if I still got it.
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