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actually you can have them, they cost only 50kHath (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Just read this in the Hath Perks page:

Follower of Snowflake - Displays your unyielding devotion to Snowflake, the Goddess of Loot and Harvest - 50000 Hath

I thought you were joking. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

no joking this time, but before you spend all those haths i have to say that only God knows what you will earn (maybe all the previous hath perks, maybe a coloured t-shirt or a night with goddesses [rule34-data-000.paheal.net] Belldandy and her sisters, who knows?) so don't blame me if you throw away your money (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I have read a critic about low level players do not deserve high type equipment items. I do not think this is totally unreasonable.
So, have you guys thought a way to scale equipment with level?

For example, from level 30 to 50 players can request at max a superior, from 50 to 100 at max an exquisite and so on.

In this way even the rich donors and H@Haters will have to work to get a good weapon for free. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

i think this will be the best solution, minimum level caps like wolfgirl's ones

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What will happen after level 200?

oh, well, many things: for example, you will gain 1 Mastery Point and 1 Mod Power; The Trio and the Tree Arena is unlocked and you could reach Godslayer rank clearing it; Flying Spaghetti Monster Ring of Blood unlocked and you could earn 60k every time you clear it by selling noodles...

but as for this shop, the fact you become Godslayer or choose to remain Destined is unrelevant, you won't be eligible for free gifts anymore, and as for now you could neither buy them. btw, i suggest you to move from 'Level Default' to Destined rank, or directly to Godslayer when you earn it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 26 2014, 23:16

[41739799] - Exquisite Shade Boots of the Fleet Primary Attributes: STR DEX END AGI
[40434843] - Exquisite Shade Breastplate of the Fleet Primary Attributes: STR DEX AGI
[41400280] - Superior Ethereal Mace of Slaughter Primary Attributes: STR
Please

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umm, isnt shade items limited to 1 per request? looks like someone sent 2 shade items.

but as for this shop, the fact you become Godslayer or choose to remain Destined is unrelevant, you won't be eligible for free gifts anymore, and as for now you could neither buy them. btw, i suggest you to move from 'Level Default' to Destined rank, or directly to Godslayer when you earn it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Ok, thanks for everything and farewell.

(for now, I hope (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )

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umm, isnt shade items limited to 1 per request? looks like someone sent 2 shade items.

it should be. it seems ai didn't see that coming and/or decided to proceed anyways.
i'll ask him and extend the cooldown of that person if he asks for other items, thanks for signaling.

Ok, thanks for everything and farewell.

(for now, I hope (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )

you know where we are, but sadly i don't think we will open for godslayers...

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 27 2014, 17:21

posting this here as a reference to avoid taking up space in other threads. i'm sure it won't be hard to scale for your shop.

You have to be under level 150.
Levels have to be for Gear:
SUPERIOR = Any level under 150.
EXQUISITE = Any level under 150.
MAGNIFICENT = Have to be over level 100.
LEGENDARY = Have to be over level 125.
PEERLESS = Have to be over level 150.

People may only get one MAGNIFICENT Per person, if over level 100.
People may only get one LEGENDARY Per person, if over level 125.
People may only get one PEERLESS Per person for life if you are level 150.

posting this here as a reference to avoid taking up space in other threads. i'm sure it won't be hard to scale for your shop.

much appreciated, thanks. may be a bit dum but i don't understand a thing: levels 150+ are still eligible for asking legendaries or are completely excluded from the shop since that's the maximum cap?

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 28 2014, 01:03

good question. i'd assume that they had to ask for the peerless when they were level 150 on the dot or no peerless but the only person that would know for sure is wolfgirl.
when i was a newbie the rules were a bit different since there was no peerless and the cap was 200. IIRC it was something like:

sup - any under 200 (forgot limit)
exq - have to be above 100 (forgot limit)
mag - have to be above 150 but under 200 (limit 1 period)
leg - have to be above 175 but under 200 (limit 1 period)

phase, shade, power - same level caps but could only get one period

it might have led to overstocking but it did keep people from staying <200 to keep getting free stuff and also walking around with leg estoc + full power slaughter(back when that was viable)

good question. i'd assume that they had to ask for the peerless when they were level 150 on the dot or no peerless but the only person that would know for sure is wolfgirl.
when i was a newbie the rules were a bit different since there was no peerless and the cap was 200. IIRC it was something like:

sup - any under 200 (forgot limit)
exq - have to be above 100 (forgot limit)
mag - have to be above 150 but under 200 (limit 1 period)
leg - have to be above 175 but under 200 (limit 1 period)

phase, shade, power - same level caps but could only get one period

it might have led to overstocking but it did keep people from staying <200 to keep getting free stuff and also walking around with leg estoc + full power slaughter(back when that was viable)

guess we'll have to ask the lady then.
btw, what against estoc+full power? did estocs become meh all of a sudden (just now that i'm trying to IW a couple of them) or only a bad combination since shade+estoc could be better?

guess we'll have to ask the lady then.
btw, what against estoc+full power? did estocs become meh all of a sudden (just now that i'm trying to IW a couple of them) or only a bad combination since shade+estoc could be better?

a bit of both. estocs in general used to be OP before PFUDOR was released IIRC but now it doesn't work all that well unless you've got ridiculous damage output(see: ichy or xtech). they're still pretty good imo, just not so much on PFUDOR.

then again, the only estoc i own is kinda shitty so my opinion might be moot

This post has been edited by something: Mar 28 2014, 02:55

judging from new requests on FS, i'd like to propose some new minimum caps, something like:

• Exquisite: level 70
• Magnificent: level 130
• Legendary: level 170

furthermore, i noted that since we put up the limit of 1phase/1power/1shade per request, many people asked for two or three different kind of them: i found it difficult to believe that a newbie has so much AP to build 3 different armor sets, so i think it could be good also to raise this cap at maximum 2 T3 items (or even 1) per request, resting assured the global cap of 3 gears.

any objections or better suggestions?

judging from new requests on FS, i'd like to propose some new minimum caps, something like:

• Exquisite: level 70
• Magnificent: level 130
• Legendary: level 170

I like this idea. This way you don't get low levels running around with Magnificents/Legendaries from the get go, and perhaps more Superiors will be requested as well to help eat up a little more stock.

furthermore, i noted that since we put up the limit of 1phase/1power/1shade per request, many people asked for two or three different kind of them: i found it difficult to believe that a newbie has so much AP to build 3 different armor sets, so i think it could be good also to raise this cap at maximum 2 T3 items (or even 1) per request, resting assured the global cap of 3 gears.

Probably just refunding and reallocating AP whenever they switch styles - I do this as well.

Anyway, I think the idea of restricting Phase/Power/Shade to one per request has merit too. I might also suggest considering including Shielding Plate in that restriction.

I like this idea. This way you don't get low levels running around with Magnificents/Legendaries from the get go, and perhaps more Superiors will be requested as well to help eat up a little more stock.

i knew you would have liked it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Probably just refunding and reallocating AP whenever they switch styles - I do this as well.

Anyway, I think the idea of restricting Phase/Power/Shade to one per request has merit too. I might also suggest considering including Shielding Plate in that restriction.

i also do this since i really don't want to train Ability Boost too much (i'll earn them either way, so why don't wait a few now and saving some hundred of k?), but there's something i don't understand on it...
as for shielding, i don't see that urge by now, we have plenty of them too...

i also do this since i really don't want to train Ability Boost too much (i'll earn them either way, so why don't wait a few now and saving some hundred of k?), but there's something i don't understand on it...
as for shielding, i don't see that urge by now, we have plenty of them too...

With 100 Ability Boost I have enough AP for all the abilities I need for each style for the moment. Not sure if I'll need to train it some more later on though.

Restricting Shielding Plate would be more to respect its utility than anything else. The ticket table implies Shielding Plate is as desirable as Phase/Power/Shade (and Force Shields as well). If you feel there is enough stock though then that's fine too.

At the moment we have massive stocks of equipment. For this simple reason I see no point in restricting the levels at which players can gain particular items. It's not our job to run or fix the HV economy either.

All items in the free shop have been donated by other players because they saw them as unworthy of auctioning, selling or using themselves. To date, there have only been one or two pieces of equipment I've seen that I'd consider using myself and even then it would be while waiting for something better to come up at auction.

At the moment the request limits are confusing enough for non-english speakers. I'm loathed to add in yet more restrictions while I see no real need. There is virtually no piece of equipment in the shop I've seen worth more than 100k which to me is more or less a throwaway item. At level 200 if you do your daily arenas you should have enough chaos tokens to fight FSM at few times a week. At 60k a noodle that's more than enough income to buy 100k pieces. No serious player wants these anymore as it's now legendary or near perfect critical stats or nothing.

If you think most of the equipment in the freeshop is better than your own then you've not been trying to shop recently. Requirements are that once a player finishes using a mag or leg they return it. They cannot sell it or salvage it without being banned not just from the freeshop but potentially from every shop in WTB. While it may give them a small boost in stats over an exq or sup piece these boosts aren't normally where it counts (attack damage in weapons, spell damage in phase, evade in shade etc).

People who hate the free shop are more than welcome to, but that's their problem. Did you also hate wolfgirl's shop? That was running with much the same premise for a year. Everything about the freeshop is above board and legitimate. The shared account was approved by Tenboro. The account details were given to Varst so he can monitor it. Every piece of equipment sent to us is trackable via mooglemail records. Hath prizes are donated by me. Plenty of shops in WTS have had free sections for as long as I can remember.

The whole HV economy is changing. When I first started playing I remember my average-fine shade set was phenominal becuase mag and leg hardly ever dropped. These days I can't even remember seeing a sup sell for more than 5k and unless it has a perfect E-Max stat in the right place, exq rarely hit more than 40k. Legs drop so frequently now compared to the early days they are affordable for most people. When I first started playing there were a grand total of three legendary items in the whole game. I personally own thee peerless items now. What does that tell you?

tl;dr -

• Simple answer is the free shop is here to stay.
• The current rules will only be adjusted if there are issues with stock.
• Haters can hate all they like but will probably be ignored.
• Any major issues should be taken up with e-hentai staff

so basically you are saying that no corrections are needed and we could start sending the next batch?

I don't mind a bit of adjustment on how to distribute mag/leg equips, but that's targeted towards dupe accounts, not to save resources.

And let's see if I receive enough complaints.

actually you can have them, they cost only 50kHath (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Just read this in the Hath Perks page:

Follower of Snowflake - Displays your unyielding devotion to Snowflake, the Goddess of Loot and Harvest - 50000 Hath

I thought you were joking. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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I have read a critic about low level players do not deserve high type equipment items. I do not think this is totally unreasonable.
So, have you guys thought a way to scale equipment with level?

For example, from level 30 to 50 players can request at max a superior, from 50 to 100 at max an exquisite and so on.

In this way even the rich donors and H@Hathers will have to work to get a good weapon for free. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I like this guys suggestion. Break up the ranks into classes where you can only ask for a certain quality based on your level. I had to fight for months with superiors that I BOUGHT in the equipment shop with my OWN credits when I first started. I'm proud of what I own today because I earned in. Along the way I have accepted donations from friends who had a nice piece they didn't need, but I didn't get them right from the start. I was already level 200+ and well on my way. I don't think giving away high-level equipment is hurting the profits of rich players. It's hurting mid-level players (like myself) who had to grind to get where we are and fellow shop owners who don't stock their shelves with magnificents and legendaries because they can't yet. We are like you and mostly get superior and exquisite drops. We're being hurt by this free shop. My sales have virtually collapsed except for materials which you don't give away. I suggest further tweaking is in order. The level scaling idea is great. I also recommend no more than two items instead of three. That's practically a whole set right off the bat. What do you think?

This post has been edited by brewdonkey: Mar 30 2014, 07:51

I forgot to mention that I do support a little help but not a catapult. Wolfgirl, arialinnoc, and ST-RU do not deal in the volume you guys do. They rarely have the quality that you guys do. Just scale it back some. That's all I care about and then I'll shut up. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by brewdonkey: Mar 30 2014, 07:58