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Mar 29 2015, 04:23
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piyin
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QUOTE(mutsdhr @ Mar 29 2015, 04:12)  Im glad, reading something like this.. "You nailed it" from someone.. who has established himself in this Comunity.. im mean.. without being lynched like myself if i tried ! Actually, your listed NR. 1. 2. 3. it's a truth that should be told !!
no offence here @ anyone from FS !
OK... just a question: does FS has to close it doors then?... just wondering...
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Mar 29 2015, 04:26
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piyin
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QUOTE(beto san @ Mar 29 2015, 04:23)  some people just need to buy a life. Piyin, do you think they really know you? I think they don't. If they did, this pointless conversation haven't existed at all. anyways, have a nice one.
Nope! they dont know me... in fact no one, aside of the staff members of HV and E-H here, know others here... ohhhh... sadness... i think im gonna drop this project then and just dedicate myself to grind solo... Anyone want my position as FS staff member?
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Mar 29 2015, 04:34
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mutsdhr
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QUOTE(piyin @ Mar 29 2015, 05:23)  OK... just a question: does FS has to close it doors then?... just wondering...
Why ? He just considered the three things when rules will/could/should be remade ! Aside, from me liking his post a lot !!! This post has been edited by mutsdhr: Mar 29 2015, 04:36
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Mar 29 2015, 04:40
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piyin
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QUOTE(mutsdhr @ Mar 29 2015, 04:34)  Why ? He just considered the three things when rules will be remade ! Aside, from me liking his post a lot !!!
OK... then... how about only give to newbies equipments just for them? Like: Exq Leather (but nothing more) Exq Plate (same as leather) One Exq weapon/Sstff (but no ethereal in case of melee weapons) Exq Cotton robes (also no mag or legendaries) And all the other items be put on a raffle every week? sounds good? dont? That way the mid grade market can be back from the graveyard and newbies will understand that even if they get stuff fro free... those are only a little help... not something that will save them from death whent they reach level 200... For me that sounds... GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .
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Mar 29 2015, 04:51
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mutsdhr
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QUOTE(piyin @ Mar 29 2015, 05:40)  OK... then... how about only give to newbies equipments just for them? Like: Exq Leather (but nothing more) Exq Plate (same as leather) One Exq weapon/Sstff (but no ethereal in case of melee weapons) Exq Cotton robes (also no mag or legendaries) And all the other items be put on a raffle every week? sounds good? dont? That way the mid grade market can be back from the graveyard and newbies will understand that even if they get stuff fro free... those are only a little help... not something that will save them from death whent they reach level 200... For me that sounds... GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Sry, dunno where you went now ! I just, made a post to Colman´s post !! It, seems weird right now.. nope i cant decide what you can give out or not ! This post has been edited by mutsdhr: Mar 29 2015, 04:54
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Mar 29 2015, 06:22
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Colman
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QUOTE(piyin @ Mar 29 2015, 10:40)  OK... then... how about only give to newbies equipments just for them? Like: Exq Leather (but nothing more) Exq Plate (same as leather) One Exq weapon/Sstff (but no ethereal in case of melee weapons) Exq Cotton robes (also no mag or legendaries) And all the other items be put on a raffle every week? sounds good? dont? That way the mid grade market can be back from the graveyard and newbies will understand that even if they get stuff fro free... those are only a little help... not something that will save them from death whent they reach level 200... For me that sounds... GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . I dun think the rule could be change by one staff alone (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) TBH, the mid-level market will not come back, even if the rules are changed. The credits sink is too heavy atm so that some (used to be) good items cannot even sold in auction. IMO, the most urgent thing is to state the actual ban requirement. The ban related rule currently is like this: CODE not observing them will lead you to a 14 days ban; multiple violations will bring you a month or a permanent ban, at our discretion. Yes, we can do this. 1. Making any request from us means you agree with all our rules. We can ban you if we think there's the need to do so. 5.3 Please only request items you actually wish to use. If you sell them you are likely to be caught and banned. 7. Users exceeding the above limits will have a 14 day ban applied and nothing sent. It didn't clearly say will they be banned immediately, or do they have one chance, or warning first before ban. If the rule didn't state, it make the staff have the right to decide. However, it may cause some people attacking the staff for banning/not banning some rule breaker. So, if FS is going to give chance, state in the rule that how many chance will be given under what situation is better.
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Mar 29 2015, 07:08
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piyin
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QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 29 2015, 06:22)  I dun think the rule could be change by one staff alone (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) TBH, the mid-level market will not come back, even if the rules are changed. The credits sink is too heavy atm so that some (used to be) good items cannot even sold in auction. IMO, the most urgent thing is to state the actual ban requirement. The ban related rule currently is like this: CODE not observing them will lead you to a 14 days ban; multiple violations will bring you a month or a permanent ban, at our discretion. Yes, we can do this. 1. Making any request from us means you agree with all our rules. We can ban you if we think there's the need to do so. 5.3 Please only request items you actually wish to use. If you sell them you are likely to be caught and banned. 7. Users exceeding the above limits will have a 14 day ban applied and nothing sent. It didn't clearly say will they be banned immediately, or do they have one chance, or warning first before ban. If the rule didn't state, it make the staff have the right to decide. However, it may cause some people attacking the staff for banning/not banning some rule breaker. So, if FS is going to give chance, state in the rule that how many chance will be given under what situation is better. 1.-The "How about" doesnt mean "im gonna do it"... just to be clear there Colman sensei. 2.- Darn! if the market is not gonna be back even if FS stop giving newbies equipments then how: QUOTE 1. FS completely kill the mid level market . is a point to discusse here?... i dont mean i dont get what you mean... its is just that if the market is already in that bad shape... How much % of responsability FS has? 3.- Oh, YEP!... that rule will have to be WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too strict now: all my intentions to help ppl giving them warning or pointing where they were wrong... looks like have backfired me sometimes... NOT GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN! Now the Watchdog will be even more rightfull: THE RULES ARE THE LAW, dont?
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Mar 29 2015, 07:19
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Colman
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QUOTE(piyin @ Mar 29 2015, 13:08)  1.-The "How about" doesnt mean "im gonna do it"... just to be clear there Colman sensei.
2.- Darn! if the market is not gonna be back even if FS stop giving newbies equipments then how: is a point to discusse here?... i dont mean i dont get what you mean... its is just that if the market is already in that bad shape... How much % of responsability FS has?
Just to make thing looked nice (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Image is important. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE 3.- Oh, YEP!... that rule will have to be WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too strict now: all my intentions to help ppl giving them warning or pointing where they were wrong... looks like have backfired me sometimes... NOT GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN! Now the Watchdog will be even more rightfull: THE RULES ARE THE LAW, dont? Something like that. OR at least make all staff share the same standard. And state it in the rule. This post has been edited by Colman: Mar 29 2015, 07:20
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Mar 29 2015, 08:02
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gunzahu
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May I have [62201850] - Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of the Battlecaster thank you (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Mar 29 2015, 08:35
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Crush85
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And thus, we lose the safety net. Poor future first timers, they don't know what's to come.
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Mar 29 2015, 11:04
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hchch
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I would like to request these~ [22837203] - [hv0.co.uk] Exquisite Phase Pants of Freyr Primary Attributes: AGI INT WIS [62984825] - [hv0.co.uk] Exquisite Buckler of the Nimble Primary Attributes: STR DEX END [60343591] - [hv0.co.uk] Exquisite Cobalt Plate Cuirass of Dampening Primary Attributes: STR DEX END [62219591] - [hv0.co.uk] Exquisite Plate Sabatons of Dampening Primary Attributes: STR DEX END [61547253] - [hv0.co.uk] Exquisite Plate Helmet of Warding Primary Attributes: STR DEX END 2 mana potions
Thanks!!
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Mar 29 2015, 11:55
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FFF Magician
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I was level 80 last week, leveling up to 80 cost me 8 months. I got a good 2H mace from free shop, but it was not necessary and not that helpful. I bought all my heavy armors from equipment shop, I am still wearing them. And now even my mace is bought from equipment shop. So I think a newbie may not have to rely on free shop to get usable equipments. Besides, I have to say that most of the equipments in free shop are no better than in equipment shop.
But what newbie really need are the potions. The heroic health and mana potions really helped me a lot. Buying those potions from item shop is not affordable for a newbie. Buying them from forum shop is cheaper, but still a heavy burden for a newbie, or at least for me below level 100. Of course now I can buy them from forum shop, and I can farm for a while to get credits to buy some better equipments.
My conclusions: 1. For a newbie below level 100, what he need is solely potions. Other equipments can be bought from equipment shop. 2. Once a newbie reach level 100, he can afford potions from forum shop. 3. A newbie need advices much more than equipments.
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Mar 29 2015, 13:56
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Shinko.Aelith
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QUOTE(FFF Magician @ Mar 29 2015, 09:55)  I was level 80 last week, leveling up to 80 cost me 8 months. I got a good 2H mace from free shop, but it was not necessary and not that helpful. I bought all my heavy armors from equipment shop, I am still wearing them. And now even my mace is bought from equipment shop. So I think a newbie may not have to rely on free shop to get usable equipments. Besides, I have to say that most of the equipments in free shop are no better than in equipment shop.
But what newbie really need are the potions. The heroic health and mana potions really helped me a lot. Buying those potions from item shop is not affordable for a newbie. Buying them from forum shop is cheaper, but still a heavy burden for a newbie, or at least for me below level 100. Of course now I can buy them from forum shop, and I can farm for a while to get credits to buy some better equipments.
My conclusions: 1. For a newbie below level 100, what he need is solely potions. Other equipments can be bought from equipment shop. 2. Once a newbie reach level 100, he can afford potions from forum shop. 3. A newbie need advices much more than equipments.
1. So you have enough credits to afford a full good equip but not potions ? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) With a good equip (and you can easily find good stuffs in this thread) you can easily farm tons of greater potions just with IW/Grindfest/Arena, even with a normal difficulty. I was soon able to do easily about 50 rounds in IW without using potions, I use 4~5 for the hardest part but I have 15 potions won when I'm done. But alright, if you need only potions, nobody give you obligation to ask something else. I don't see why they shouldn't give gears ; it may not be your case, but a lot of newbies need it at the beginning (that time when you can only afford crude and average equips). 2. Well, again... If this newbie had enough for exquisites (5~40k each and even more depending of the quality and the seller), I think 700c for 100 heroic isn't really a problem (even 3k at the bazaar isn't that unaffordable). Credits you didn't spent on your equip thanks to FreeSHop are credits you can keep for your potions if you want. 3. Yeah, but giving advices isn't the point of FreeSHop. There is already a dedicated thread : you can for example Ask the Experts!. They helped me a lot to know what is better for DW, shops,... So no, I don't see why they should only give potions and I'll continue to send them gears to help others. Maybe you choose a mace which didn't fit you but it doesn't mean all they give is useless for newbies. This post has been edited by Shinko.Aelith: Mar 29 2015, 13:59
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Mar 29 2015, 14:51
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Colman
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QUOTE(FFF Magician @ Mar 29 2015, 17:55)  My conclusions: 1. For a newbie below level 100, what he need is solely potions. Other equipments can be bought from equipment shop. 2. Once a newbie reach level 100, he can afford potions from forum shop. 3. A newbie need advices much more than equipments.
1. buy from WTS can be cheaper. But buy from equipment shop no need to wait. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) 2. once you reach level 150, you no longer need to buy potions. A few level of LotD help a lot in quality of potion drop. QUOTE(Shinko.Aelith @ Mar 29 2015, 19:56)  1. So you have enough credits to afford a full good equip but not potions ? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) With a good equip (and you can easily find good stuffs in this thread) you can easily farm tons of greater potions just with IW/Grindfest/Arena, even with a normal difficulty. I was soon able to do easily about 50 rounds in IW without using potions, I use 4~5 for the hardest part but I have 15 potions won when I'm done. But alright, if you need only potions, nobody give you obligation to ask something else. I don't see why they shouldn't give gears ; it may not be your case, but a lot of newbies need it at the beginning (that time when you can only afford crude and average equips). 2. Well, again... If this newbie had enough for exquisites (5~40k each and even more depending of the quality and the seller), I think 700c for 100 heroic isn't really a problem (even 3k at the bazaar isn't that unaffordable). Credits you didn't spent on your equip thanks to FreeSHop are credits you can keep for your potions if you want. 3. Yeah, but giving advices isn't the point of FreeSHop. There is already a dedicated thread : you can for example Ask the Experts!. They helped me a lot to know what is better for DW, shops,... So no, I don't see why they should only give potions and I'll continue to send them gears to help others. Maybe you choose a mace which didn't fit you but it doesn't mean all they give is useless for newbies. 1. A potion pack is rather expensive in shop. 30c for a single potion in shop. So 300/200/100 potions cost 9k/6k/3k credits. Btw, I do not see the point for newbies to use exq+ equipment. Superior is good enough. They do not forge anyway. Exq grade gears were end game gears when I was most active. This post has been edited by Colman: Mar 29 2015, 14:58
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Mar 29 2015, 14:54
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chronokorea
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can i get this item? [52957760] - [hv0.co.uk] Magnificent Plate Greaves of Protection Primary Attributes: STR DEX END
and 1 mana potion pack
thanks!
This post has been edited by chronokorea: Mar 29 2015, 16:43
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Mar 29 2015, 15:00
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FFF Magician
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QUOTE(Shinko.Aelith @ Mar 29 2015, 11:56)  1. So you have enough credits to afford a full good equip but not potions ? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) With a good equip (and you can easily find good stuffs in this thread) you can easily farm tons of greater potions just with IW/Grindfest/Arena, even with a normal difficulty. I was soon able to do easily about 50 rounds in IW without using potions, I use 4~5 for the hardest part but I have 15 potions won when I'm done. But alright, if you need only potions, nobody give you obligation to ask something else. I don't see why they shouldn't give gears ; it may not be your case, but a lot of newbies need it at the beginning (that time when you can only afford crude and average equips). 2. Well, again... If this newbie had enough for exquisites (5~40k each and even more depending of the quality and the seller), I think 700c for 100 heroic isn't really a problem (even 3k at the bazaar isn't that unaffordable). Credits you didn't spent on your equip thanks to FreeSHop are credits you can keep for your potions if you want. 3. Yeah, but giving advices isn't the point of FreeSHop. There is already a dedicated thread : you can for example Ask the Experts!. They helped me a lot to know what is better for DW, shops,... So no, I don't see why they should only give potions and I'll continue to send them gears to help others. Maybe you choose a mace which didn't fit you but it doesn't mean all they give is useless for newbies. I am sorry that I may caused some miscommunication. When I referred "equipment shop", I actually meant the equipment shop in bazaar. What I really want to discuss is what kind of help a newbie should get. Well, getting some free gears is definitely good for newbies, I just asked for some equipments in another thread. I just don't think it should become a rule. You are correct, even potions are not necessary. Newbies are able to leveling up and then search gears in the market. When they reach bottle neck, just go the the Ask the Experts! thread. It is kind to give gears to newbies, but don't treat it as an obligation. Newbies can grow up by themselves. That's all I want to say. QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 29 2015, 12:51)  2. once you reach level 150, you no longer need to buy potions. A few level of LotD help a lot in quality of potion drop.
That will be great, I will put some training on that (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) This post has been edited by FFF Magician: Mar 29 2015, 15:22
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Mar 29 2015, 15:05
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rosegenie
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Hello,Free shop owner. May I have this item? [54968727] - [hv0.co.uk] Magnificent Plate Greaves of Protection and 1 Mana potion pack If you give this item, I'm very happy. I wish you a good start in the week ,thanks (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) This post has been edited by rosegenie: Mar 29 2015, 15:06
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Mar 29 2015, 17:26
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bird_heaven
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i'm new of hv,and i need some help for playing better can i get these item? [53926216] - [hv0.co.uk] Magnificent Mace of Slaughter Primary Attributes: STR DEX AGI and some mana potion thanks for your help=(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)= This post has been edited by bird_heaven: Mar 30 2015, 11:38
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Mar 29 2015, 17:43
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ssk2531
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Please send me these items.
[63535723] - [hv0.co.uk] Exquisite Hallowed Mace of Balance [53645672] - [hv0.co.uk] Exquisite Power Helmet of Protection [61762963] - [hv0.co.uk] Exquisite Plate Cuirass of Protection [61314359] - [hv0.co.uk] Exquisite Plate Sabatons of Protection [61647497] - [hv0.co.uk] Exquisite Jade Plate Gauntlets of Protection 1 health potion pack 1 mana potion pack
Thank you very much!
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Mar 29 2015, 20:23
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sam le champion
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hello everybody...i've made my first donation today, superior / exquisite weapon so it seems enough high lvl ... you said it may take quite long to receive something back? how long it takes now? it is faster for credit or potion? thanks to you....it's quite a good thing you create (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) unfortunately i've notice it way too late (already get exquisite katana wabizashi and superior power armor) i've done it old school (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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