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post Mar 23 2014, 15:53
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QUOTE(varst @ Mar 23 2014, 14:46) *

No, I mean you can never get anything from the free shop if you've got a Mag/Leg/credits, and you can't request for Mag/Leg/credits if you've already taken other equips.

And it's always good to discuss in public. Or open a new thread just for the discussion.

mmm... a bit drastic but it could serve right.
as for the topic, actually there already is: check here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

QUOTE(Rugers @ Mar 15 2014, 12:49) *

may i have this equip plz

[40271014] - Magnificent Fiery Mace of Slaughter Primary Attributes: STR DEX AGI

thanks!

i found this request, just a couple of hours prior to hahaaaaaaaaaaaaa, so you are actually right. the problem should be that the tracker was badly updated, i'll change them as soon as possible.

i think at least a few public excuses are given, i'm sorry to have targeted you for an error of ours (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

i wrote also an update in the page in which you were signalated, for as much i can: check here

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post Mar 23 2014, 16:04
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can I get [41657167] - Exquisite Ethereal Longsword of Slaughter Primary Attributes: STR DEX AGI
[41453893] - Exquisite Zircon Power Gauntlets of Slaughter Primary Attributes: STR DEX?

thx

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post Mar 23 2014, 16:09
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Can I have

[41523245] - Exquisite Agile Leather Helmet of Deflection Primary Attributes: STR DEX AGI
[37144750] - Exquisite Jade Leather Boots of Protection Primary Attributes: STR DEX END AGI

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post Mar 23 2014, 16:25
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hello can i get

[39499340] - Exquisite Tempestuous Estoc of Slaughter Primary Attributes: STR DEX AGI

thanks
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post Mar 23 2014, 19:46
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QUOTE(animeai @ Mar 23 2014, 01:17) *

The whole game economy is horrible for new players if you don't have H@H and earn decent hath


This is a thing very easy to notice and I share the feeling. When there never is a shadow of a binding in the bazaar and I never saw a piece of high grade wood for sale. I am not asking the panties of Goddess Snowflake, just a ridiculous piece of wood.

The simple existence of these forum shops is evidence for your claim. I ask myself if this is a RPG or a money management game.

But actually, this little game is not independent. It is a side of the main site, that is, a site publishing galleries. When one publishes galleries, one gets credits. This must be the reason behind the humongous prices and the absurd rarity of simple items.

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This is a pain in the ass because we'd have to price each and every item. Any takers for pricing 2400 equips?


Get a script guy, in the bazaar simulate a click on the item, read the value of the textbox below and multiply by 5. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Mar 23 2014, 20:41
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QUOTE(zotnios @ Mar 23 2014, 18:46) *

I am not asking the panties of Goddess Snowflake, just a ridiculous piece of wood.

actually you can have them, they cost only 50kHath (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(zotnios @ Mar 23 2014, 18:46) *

The simple existence of these forum shops is evidence for your claim. I ask myself if this is a RPG or a money management game.

actually both, RPG is merely a way for free players to gain credits and for who'd want to have a little more to donate money to help the site, earning in reward credits and equips; but you answered yourself:

QUOTE(zotnios @ Mar 23 2014, 18:46) *

But actually, this little game is not independent. It is a side of the main site, that is, a site publishing galleries. When one publishes galleries, one gets credits. This must be the reason behind the humongous prices and the absurd rarity of simple items.


QUOTE(zotnios @ Mar 23 2014, 18:46) *

Get a script guy, in the bazaar simulate a click on the item, read the value of the textbox below and multiply by 5. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

it doesn't work, i tried it myself in my shop. bazaar values are based only on tier of the equip (eg leather, kevlar or shade) and their starting PXP, that means the quality prefix: going for this road would mean to price a superior katana of balance way more than a magnificent mace of slaughter, albeit the former's evident minor benefits. or again, a superior estoc of slaughter about the same as a superior longsowrd of balance... btw, even if a high-dmg mace of balance could still be of any use (i went with one of those until today, when i was able to catch a slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) i don't remember to have ever seen someone buying a longsword of balance...
you have to consider many things: number (and value) of PABs, value of base stats (especially the ones that mark out the piece (spell damages, elemental mitigations, parry, evade...) just to name a few.

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post Mar 23 2014, 20:58
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 23 2014, 19:41) *

it doesn't work, i tried it myself in my shop. bazaar values are based only on tier of the equip (eg leather, kevlar or shade) and their starting PXP, that means the quality prefix: going for this road would mean to price a superior katana of balance way more than a magnificent mace of slaughter, albeit the former's evident minor benefits. or again, a superior estoc of slaughter about the same as a superior longsowrd of balance... btw, even if a high-dmg mace of balance could still be of any use (i went with one of those until today, when i was able to catch a slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) i don't remember to have ever seen someone buying a longsword of balance...
you have to consider many things: number (and value) of PABs, value of base stats (especially the ones that mark out the piece (spell damages, elemental mitigations, parry, evade...) just to name a few.


If those parameters are accessible by a script, it can be done. But saving in automatic way those values in a local file can be tricky.

I think you could get one of the programmers and ask a SQL query on the items. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 23 2014, 21:06
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QUOTE(zotnios @ Mar 23 2014, 19:58) *

If those parameters are accessible by a script, it can be done. But saving in automatic way those values in a local file can be tricky.

I think you could get one of the programmers and ask a SQL query on the items. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

well, actually they are a list (or better, a table), see for yourself: click

in my little i'm a programmer too, i know that using them to price items should require only a dozen of logical ANDs, ORs, IFs or whatever else; the problem still remains how to value all those parameters: undoubtly if i want a shade of fleet it has to have a high evade chance, but is it better a 4PABs with small values or a 3PABs with high values? and if a 3PABs, which of the 4 is expendable? and you can get pleeeeeenty of other examples (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Mar 23 2014, 21:18
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HV has gotten a lot more newbie friendly in my absence. Good to know.
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post Mar 23 2014, 21:25
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QUOTE(noneya @ Mar 23 2014, 20:18) *

HV has gotten a lot more newbie friendly in my absence. Good to know.

it seems so... and shields aren't useless anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Mar 23 2014, 21:28
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 23 2014, 20:06) *

well, actually they are a list (or better, a table), see for yourself: click

in my little i'm a programmer too, i know that using them to price items should require only a dozen of logical ANDs, ORs, IFs or whatever else; the problem still remains how to value all those parameters: undoubtly if i want a shade of fleet it has to have a high evade chance, but is it better a 4PABs with small values or a 3PABs with high values? and if a 3PABs, which of the 4 is expendable? and you can get pleeeeeenty of other examples (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


I was just discussing this in the thread Ask the Experts, today, about the staves I am playing with.

The value of a weapon is its capability to make us progress in the fastest way: we need to find the best combination of parameters, or which ones are more worthy.

Anyway for the free shop I think you do not need to be so perfectionist. Make an estimate and adjust it with time and feedback from users.
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post Mar 23 2014, 21:30
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Excuse me, could I get this:
[40233602] - Magnificent Shade Boots of the Fleet Primary Attributes: STR DEX AGI

Thanks very much!!

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post Mar 23 2014, 21:31
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QUOTE(zotnios @ Mar 23 2014, 20:28) *

I was just discussing this in the thread Ask the Experts, today, about the staves I am playing with.

The value of a weapon is its capability to make us progress in the fastest way: we need to find the best combination of parameters, or which ones are more worthy.

Anyway for the free shop I think you do not need to be so perfectionist. Make an estimate and adjust it with time and feedback from users.

still not so easy: if we decide to sell, just saying, that legendary shade for 100k it would mean as if it was gifted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
btw, i saw your staffs: the destruction one would have been better with a prefix, but still not bad
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post Mar 24 2014, 02:16
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Please give me
[40904425] - Exquisite Frugal Phase Gloves of Surtr
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post Mar 24 2014, 07:58
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Hello,

This is a marvellous thing you guys are doing, even if I do feel a little guilty taking advantage rather than grinding it out.

Can I have the following items?


[33235765] - Exquisite Tempestuous Katana of
Slaughter Primary Attributes: STR DEX AGI


[41359188] - Exquisite Cobalt Plate Gauntlets of
Deflection Primary Attributes: STR DEX END


[41086239] - Exquisite Plate Sabatons of Deflection
Primary Attributes: STR END

Much appreciated.
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post Mar 24 2014, 13:15
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Is something going on with the free shop?
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post Mar 24 2014, 15:24
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nothing bad, at least for as much as i know it, maybe a few rules under discussion but i don't think it will be closed...
we're only a bit late with sending items, but as pointed out in first post cooldown starts with your requests, not with our sending...

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post Mar 24 2014, 15:36
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So can i send my next request since my first one is probably long since cooled down? xD
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post Mar 24 2014, 16:34
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Sorry to ask for you again, I'm a new learner of HV and now lv.133.
Could I ask for these?
[41243096] - Exquisite Ethereal Mace of Balance Primary Attributes: STR
[38139928] - Exquisite Shade Leggings of the Fleet Primary Attributes: DEX END AGI
[41739799] - Exquisite Shade Boots of the Fleet Primary Attributes: STR DEX END AGI
If it's possible, thanks so much!!!

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QUOTE(celtsman1989 @ Mar 24 2014, 10:34) *

Sorry to ask for you again, I'm a new learner of HV and now lv.133.
Could I ask for these equitments?
[41243096] - Exquisite Ethereal Mace of Balance Primary Attributes: STR
[30812800] - Exquisite Shade Breastplate of the Fleet Primary Attributes: DEX END AGI
[40344079] - Magnificent Shade Gauntlets of the Fleet Primary Attributes: DEX END AGI
[38139928] - Exquisite Shade Leggings of the Fleet Primary Attributes: DEX END AGI
[41739799] - Exquisite Shade Boots of the Fleet Primary Attributes: STR DEX END AGI
If it's possible, thanks so much!!!


you really need to read the rules of the shop before requesting for items.

QUOTE(FreeSHop @ Feb 28 2014, 18:21) *


[*]Request Limits: Requests can be made at most every 2 days. If requesting a magnificent or legendary you cannot also request exquisites or superiors in the same post (you must wait 2 days before requesting exquisites). You may request a maximum of three superior/exquisite or one magnificent/legendary item at a time. Some exquisites or supriors have additional limits outlined below:
  • Legendary: limit of 1 per player. 7 day cooldown to request Magnificent or below items
  • Magnificent: 1 per 7 days - must be requested on its own (not at the same time as exquisites)
  • Exquisite or Superior: Maximum total of 3 per 2 days with the following restrictions:
    • 1h - 2 per 2 days
    • 2h - 1 per 2 days
    • Staff - 1 per 2 days
    • Shield - 1 per 2 days
    • Cotton - 3 per 2 days
    • Gossamer - 3 per 2 days
    • Phase - 1 per 2 days
    • Leather - 3 per 2 days
    • Shade - 1 per 2 days
    • Kevlar - 3 per 2 days
    • Plate - 3 per 2 days (excludes shielding)
    • Power - 1 per 2 days
    • Shielding/Shield Plate - 1 per 2 days
Note: you may return a magnificent or legendary item to remove the cooldown period

[*]Users exceeding these limits will have nothing sent, and maybe still a cooldown applied!


basically, with this request, you will get nothing and will probably have to wait 2 days to ask again
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