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The Lottery: Making the rich richer and the poor poorer, Changes need to come |
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Dec 20 2013, 17:47
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SoraNoAki
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^ There are 5 prizes and every time someone wins a prize they can't win another one, so I think the ~83% chance (since I don't know the other numbers of ticket holders) is correct.
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Dec 20 2013, 18:04
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thomas1850
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you all know the saying ."you have a better chance of getting hit by lightening then winning the lottery." I think its all fixed also. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Dec 20 2013, 19:25
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blue penguin
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Dec 20 2013, 14:29)  use the math variant of fuzzy logic. Using [ en.wikipedia.org] fuzzy logic you could go up to 61.13% on the highest hedge. But then you could also have 0.01% on the lowest hedge (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I wanted that oak staff of focus so bad, I invested 12 tickets into that lotery. And I lost, unconceivable!
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Dec 20 2013, 19:48
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Evil Scorpio
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QUOTE The Lottery: Making the rich richer and the poor poorer. Changes need to come Nope. That's a main purpose of a lottery - making humans suffer. Without this we'll lost our source of sweet tasty whining from poor people lazy fucks, who don't want to put any effort into anything and just wanna get shit for free. Dixi.
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Dec 20 2013, 20:06
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Evil Scorpio
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Dec 20 2013, 21:58)  lottery is the hope / light / way for some people to escape from poverty in real life (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Lottery in real life is a way to legally rob people. That's all.
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Dec 20 2013, 22:05
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varst
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Dec 21 2013, 02:06)  Lottery in real life is a way to legally or illegally rob people. That's all.
FTFY
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Dec 22 2013, 19:14
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Shaloan
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You don't take ticket for the lottery very often , to say something like this !
in real life you have 1/14 billion for the euromilion it's very low but it is not a rob !
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Dec 22 2013, 21:39
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Lement
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QUOTE(Shaloan @ Dec 22 2013, 19:14)  You don't take ticket for the lottery very often , to say something like this !
in real life you have 1/14 billion for the euromilion it's very low but it is not a rob !
Let me illustrate that for you: 
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Dec 23 2013, 01:10
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kingwolf
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I tried the first couple of weeks. I didn't get a damn thing and saw the same people winning most of the time. I quit after that and now I'm back to just accumulating GP for not a fucking thing to spend it on. I don't mind not winning, it's seeing the same people winning most days that irritated me.
Why not make participating in a lottery lock you out of the next one? That way, people will be more hesitant to buy thousands of tickets. They'll have to ask themselves, "Do I REALLY need this?"
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Dec 23 2013, 01:41
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Wraithtouch
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And what irritating me is that people still go on about lottery and same people winning. "Let's lock Stony from participating in lottery". Lets also lock Danixxx from leveling and HTTP monsters from participating in battles. Just because they are best. Thats called envy. After seeing lottery results for quite a while, and seeing mostly same people winning a lot, that can be one of two reasons: 1. They are winning by some underhanded means. I do beleive its not the case and the lottery game is fair (in mechanics sense) Also I dont see any gains for Tenboro or any of the winners. 2. They are investing a lot in every lottery they end up winning. And thats it. You dont win a lot? You just dont invest a lot of gp. You did invest a lot, but still didnt win? Well, there is still a bit of luck and random. I bet Stony can too say something about some of the days when investment was high, but didnt result in a grand prize. So, lets just drop subject. I think ut would be interesting to have more smaller type of prizes, but lottery as it is now, is both fair and serves its purpose.
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Dec 23 2013, 09:31
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Evil Scorpio
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QUOTE(Wraithtouch @ Dec 23 2013, 03:41)  And what irritating me is that people still go on about lottery and same people winning. "Let's lock Stony from participating in lottery". Lets also lock Danixxx from leveling and HTTP monsters from participating in battles. Just because they are best. Thats called envy. Humans are lazy envious fucktards. Especially amongst the gamblers, because gambling requires a special lack of brains. QUOTE(Wraithtouch @ Dec 23 2013, 03:41)  After seeing lottery results for quite a while, and seeing mostly same people winning a lot, that can be one of two reasons: 1. They are winning by some underhanded means. I do beleive its not the case and the lottery game is fair (in mechanics sense) Also I dont see any gains for Tenboro or any of the winners. 2. They are investing a lot in every lottery they end up winning. And thats it. You dont win a lot? You just dont invest a lot of gp. You did invest a lot, but still didnt win? Well, there is still a bit of luck and random. I bet Stony can too say something about some of the days when investment was high, but didnt result in a grand prize. Bitches always whine, there are no point of trying to explain them about their stupidity. It's not the first whine thread, it's not even in a first hundred of same threads AKA "They have something - I don't have something, but I don't want to do anything to get the same as well, so give me it and take it away from them". QUOTE(Wraithtouch @ Dec 23 2013, 03:41)  So, lets just drop subject. I think ut would be interesting to have more smaller type of prizes, but lottery as it is now, is both fair and serves its purpose. That could be arranged.
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Dec 23 2013, 12:39
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Laboq
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QUOTE(Wraithtouch @ Dec 23 2013, 01:41)  Thats called envy. Correction: only by you and the fat trolls. QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Dec 23 2013, 09:31)  I don't have something, but I don't want to do anything to get the same as well Yeah: the robbers, killers and other bad guys have their deal, so why you stupid honest people don't want to be like them? Trollogic. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) This post has been edited by Laboq: Dec 23 2013, 13:19
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Dec 23 2013, 13:50
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Evil Scorpio
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QUOTE(Laboq @ Dec 23 2013, 14:39)  Correction: only by you and the fat trolls. Oh, look who's speaking about trolls. QUOTE(Laboq @ Dec 23 2013, 14:39)  Yeah: the robbers, killers and other bad guys have their deal, so why you stupid honest people don't want to be like them? Trollogic. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Nope, that's the main reason why people become robbers, killers and other bad guys - they want to have something for nothing.
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Dec 23 2013, 14:11
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Lement
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Laboq: Counter this: If Lottery is good place to invest all your funds in, why aren't you doing it?
This post has been edited by Lement: Dec 23 2013, 14:11
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Dec 23 2013, 14:30
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Laboq
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Dec 23 2013, 13:50)  Oh, look who's speaking about trolls.
Nothing stings like the truth, isn't it? Ad hominem argument speaks for itself. QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Dec 23 2013, 13:50)  Nope, that's the main reason why people become robbers
Nope, thats's only your advice. You want they become robbers cuz other people are doing it. Also we see the substitution of notions here: jealousness and unfairness are not the same. Some people are too dumb to understand it. QUOTE(Lement @ Dec 23 2013, 14:11)  Laboq: Counter this:
Why should I do it? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I said it before and I'm sayin it again: I'm for the alternative Lottery for non-moneybags. Just as alternative. If they'll want to get into it - welcome. As for trolls, they don't even want to talk/read about it. "Envious persons", "whiners", "expropriators" - these are their arguments. Well, keep this mantra up. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) This post has been edited by Laboq: Dec 23 2013, 14:38
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Dec 23 2013, 14:46
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Evil Scorpio
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QUOTE(Laboq @ Dec 23 2013, 16:30)  Nothing stings like the truth, isn't it? Ad hominem argument speaks for itself. I can say the same about you. QUOTE(Laboq @ Dec 23 2013, 16:30)  Nope, thats's only your advice. You want they become robbers cuz other people are doing it. Also we see the substitution of notions here: jealousness and unfairness are not the same. Some people are too dumb to understand it. Nope, I want them to stop whining. And life is never fair. Surprised? No matter what we do, there is always some minority who yells "That's not fair!". Well, you know what? Nobody holds you on this planet, guys, go try another. Some people are too dumb to understand it. QUOTE(Laboq @ Dec 23 2013, 16:30)  Why should I do it? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I'm for the alternative Lottery for non-moneybags. Uuh-huh. And if you'll succeed in it and some bunch of whiners will start to yell "block him from the participation" - I'm pretty sure you'll switch sides in a millisecond. I'm aware of your hypocrisy already. QUOTE(Laboq @ Dec 23 2013, 16:30)  As for trolls, they don't even want to talk/read about it. "Envious persons", "whiners", "expropriators" - these are their arguments. Well, keep this mantra up. "Not fair", "moneybags" - these are your arguments for laziness and greed. Well, keep this mantra up.
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Dec 23 2013, 15:01
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Laboq
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Dec 23 2013, 14:46)  I can say the same about you.
You can say everything you want. Blessed is the mind too small for doubt. QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Dec 23 2013, 14:46)  Nope, I want them to stop whining.
Well, put your fasci uniform on and bring them to do it. Oh, wait, I forgot, those days're gone. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Dec 23 2013, 14:46)  laziness and greed. That's a value judgement which has no foundation. Try harder. This post has been edited by Laboq: Dec 23 2013, 15:04
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