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Jun 20 2013, 07:12
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treesloth
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QUOTE(doomgaze @ Jun 20 2013, 12:42)  And as I posted...
It is my thread.
I made it to post complaints.
Take your own advice: Don't like it? Don't come into it, don't read it and don't post on it. Make your own thread where you can be "el número uno".
I think it would be a cruel and painful punishment to ever have to spend time with you in person. I used to say that about my future mother-in-law, but you take the cake.
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Jun 20 2013, 16:42
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starrysky8
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played to level 40 and some on the old version, rest on the new one. don't really find anything that op or unfair or too hard, at least not yet? got a bunch of shade items, superior fiery axe of slaughter / dagger of slaughter on dw and i'm able to take down blood arena bosses on iwbth (thank you, pack rat and scholar), clear random encounters on iwbth without much trouble and generally complete 20~ rounds of iwbth grindfest before running out of usable "survival kits". i don't even play all that much; my stamina hardly ever drops below 90.
i leveled from 40+ till 120 in two weeks, thanks to iwbth. now iwbth isn't giving all that much exp anymore in comparison to before, but i found out this cool "random encounters" thingamajigga, and now i can get the 100-300k exp hourly. even though you can't really call it a 'random encounter' since you can make it happen intentionally...
anyway, my point is that i don't get why people say that casuals or low levels have it hard now. i haven't had much troubles, aside of getting used to "LOLINSTAKILL" iwbth before spark.
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Jun 20 2013, 22:32
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doomgaze
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Jun 20 2013, 00:12)  I think it would be a cruel and painful punishment to ever have to spend time with you in person. I used to say that about my future mother-in-law, but you take the cake.
Just to be clear: You come into the thread telling me what to do with a disrespectful attitude. How I play and what I earn is of no matter. I used the same wordage you used and then you take offense to it. So it is perfectly fine for you to use such wordage but how dare I use it against you... Yep... It is mighty clear who'd be more of a punishment to spend time with...
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Jun 20 2013, 22:59
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Fanservicefan
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QUOTE(doomgaze @ Jun 15 2013, 17:09)  The patch deprived many players of their already earned spells, skills abilities and stats just to comply with the new standards.
Since skills depend on profficiency levels there's no choice but to train the particular fighting style until it reaches 100 profficiency.
My suggestion (it's what I did) is to use Item World of a crude item on normal difficulty so that you don't overlevel too much and get a decent amount of profficiency.
If you haven't trained Assimilator, then maybe you can invest on it to make things run faster.
Sorry for the late reply. My 2H proficiency is at 87. But what's wrong with overlevelling? I WANT to get higher levels so I can bolster my support spells and 2H abilities. Mainly doing hourlies on Nintendo difficulty (I'd do Grindfest but Firefox falls apart after about 30 or so battles for some reason). As for Assimilator, I did it once and the second time is far too much credits for my blood. Waiting for the donation to pull through and maybe then I'll do it a second time. Finally, there's this spell called Spirit Shield. I take it my Supportive proficiency needs to be 100 as well? The wiki isn't very clear (something about 130 and then a bunch of question marks).
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Jun 20 2013, 23:28
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doomgaze
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QUOTE(Fanservicefan @ Jun 20 2013, 15:59)  Sorry for the late reply. My 2H proficiency is at 87. But what's wrong with overlevelling? I WANT to get higher levels so I can bolster my support spells and 2H abilities. Mainly doing hourlies on Nintendo difficulty (I'd do Grindfest but Firefox falls apart after about 30 or so battles for some reason). As for Assimilator, I did it once and the second time is far too much credits for my blood. Waiting for the donation to pull through and maybe then I'll do it a second time. Finally, there's this spell called Spirit Shield. I take it my Supportive proficiency needs to be 100 as well? The wiki isn't very clear (something about 130 and then a bunch of question marks).
What I mean by overleveling is that by getting high profficiency at a lower difficulty until it "catches up" to your expected use of it (getting spells, skills, etc) makes it grow along your requirements much more easily and steadily. Getting to a higher level so you can get the ability points to invest into the specialties is great and all, but what good are those if you can't reap their benefits because your profficiency didn't level along with you? I have 147.88 supportive profficiency. I don't have Spirit Shield since my level is not 200 (which you learn it at) So you see... I am currently training my deprecating, elemental and forbidden profficiencies so as to actually be able to use the spells I "supposedly" learned 34 levels ago. That's what I mean by "overleveling"... Monsters get more powerful, my spells are not powerful enough or can't even use them since they are no tied to level, but profficiency.
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Jun 24 2013, 14:07
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qkrcksdmd
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Got to lv74 today!!
so if there is something that I can actually complain about...
not being able to finish grindfest even once? :3c
HUEHUEHUE
This post has been edited by qkrcksdmd: Jun 24 2013, 14:07
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Jun 26 2013, 07:54
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doomgaze
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A thousand rounds of grindfest without godly equipment, tons of item slots filled and a reliable way to do "board wipes" easily and not too costly is just not feasible or you'd have to be incredibly lucky to get gem after gem of the ones you need to keep going and riddlemaster challenges to "refuel" consistently...
At the very least it seems that way for melee types whose only "reliable board wipe" was Skyward sword.
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Jun 28 2013, 04:38
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Frostbite
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QUOTE(doomgaze @ Jun 25 2013, 18:54)  A thousand rounds of grindfest without godly equipment, tons of item slots filled and a reliable way to do "board wipes" easily and not too costly is just not feasible or you'd have to be incredibly lucky to get gem after gem of the ones you need to keep going and riddlemaster challenges to "refuel" consistently...
At the very least it seems that way for melee types whose only "reliable board wipe" was Skyward sword.
Unfortunately Skyward Sword is no longer swipe the board..now .. it limits to how many monsters you can hit
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Jun 28 2013, 08:10
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Ausence
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I just want the credits spent on that single Power Tank level back.
I am poor.
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Jun 28 2013, 09:41
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doomgaze
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QUOTE(Frostbite @ Jun 27 2013, 21:38)  Unfortunately Skyward Sword is no longer swipe the board..now .. it limits to how many monsters you can hit
Eeyup... That's why I wrote "was the only reliable board wipe"... Since the patch hit, the only reliable way for me to survive 200 or some rounds of grindfest/iw at normal difficulty has been to rely on domino strikes while in spirit stance (and maybe if "mystic-gemed" heartseeker) using an ethereal mace a fellow player sold to me or my own ethereal longsword that I have been leveling up and forging for a while now... (When I use the longsword, domino strikes are 70%, my hit % is nearly 127.1 and critical rate 23%, but has 2.9 attack speed bonus even with my heavy all power armor setup without featherweight enchants). When in dire desperation of credits, I use my Niten setup at arenas which makes my hit % a guaranteed 156.9 has only 16.8 crit chance, but gives me the most protection physically and its 33% parry saves my hide many times, with the very high overcharge of 250% spirit stance lasts quite a while, it has 71% offhand and domino strike percentages and skyward sword which costs only 100 oc. (Pre-patch, this setup totally owned iw and arenas and I used it to take down the noodly monster). @Ausence: Good for you to only have wasted money on one level of power tank... I had all 20 levels of it trained before they took it down without reimbursement. This post has been edited by doomgaze: Jun 28 2013, 09:48
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Jun 28 2013, 10:19
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Mags_
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You should really try playing as a mage.
Dark/holy spam is straight up faceroll. I actually have to do IWBTH arenas because anything easier means I kill everything before I can get my ether procs, and I don't like wasting mana pots.
Also, try doing crude equipment item worlds . Anyone can last 30 rounds, and you get all the stuff you can get doing arenas.
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Jun 29 2013, 16:53
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Receptors
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QUOTE(Ausence @ Jun 28 2013, 08:10)  I just want the credits spent on that single Power Tank level back.
I am poor.
So little credits. 10B will ignore them. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Jul 1 2013, 02:45
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doomgaze
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QUOTE(rainbowmagnum @ Jun 28 2013, 03:19)  You should really try playing as a mage.
Dark/holy spam is straight up faceroll. I actually have to do IWBTH arenas because anything easier means I kill everything before I can get my ether procs, and I don't like wasting mana pots.
Also, try doing crude equipment item worlds . Anyone can last 30 rounds, and you get all the stuff you can get doing arenas.
Not feasible... Too little "maging" profficiency to be survivable. Divine profficiency is 113.22 (mainly because pre-patch Divine profficiency was used to calculate Curative power) Forbidden profficiency is 24 (Not really used any dark spells since I was a melee type from the start, currently leveling it though). Supportive is 157.3 Elemental is 83.29 Deprecating is 83.26 Already unlocked the mastery point slot for ether theft in preparation for a future "maging spree" a while ago. Ability points already spent in corruption and smite as to make them have no cooldown and be "spammable". Currently building credits for ability points to augment imperil and add divine and dark imperils' debuffs. Already "current" in ability point allotment on elemental magic to increase targets and reduce cooldown of some T2 spells I have, but profficiency is still too low. Bottom line? No "maging" for me until my profficiency "catches up" which is proving problematic since I seem to be "gaining too much exp". (At normal difficulty, clearing arenas up to the "Endgame" one usually ends up in me gaining a level, even now that my next level up needs some 6,600,000 points). Using "crude-item-world-ling" is proving no more useful either.
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Jul 1 2013, 03:01
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Lement
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Given how offensive magic profs are now, once you have unlocked t3 you don't need more magic prof, though you do get small benefit from staff prof once you max it out. Average phase>Legendary gossamer after all.
Oh and divine prof has never affected cure, it's always been holy edb.
This post has been edited by Lement: Jul 1 2013, 03:01
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Jul 1 2013, 20:43
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Lement
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I'm sorry? Let's it be said that I only meant offensive magic profs in that sentence, sorry if I came across as meaning general magic profs. Supportive and Deprecating proficiencies are still useful, but not useful enough to wear gossamer.
As for the usefulness of those offensive magic proficiencies....go math out how useful Legmax-in-all-stats-Legendary-Useless-Gossamer is compared to 1 piece of phase with rolls all halfway between supmax and supmin.
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Jul 9 2013, 08:26
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doomgaze
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Since I do not own any good cloth gear, nor any worthy staff and profficiency is too low, guess no "maging" for me.
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Jul 9 2013, 09:18
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varst
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QUOTE(doomgaze @ Jul 9 2013, 14:26)  Since I do not own any good cloth gear, nor any worthy staff and profficiency is too low, guess no "maging" for me.
I guess everyone starts without any good cloth gear, no worthy staff and zero proficiency. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jul 9 2013, 09:30
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gc00018
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QUOTE(varst @ Jul 9 2013, 07:18)  I guess everyone starts without any good cloth gear, no worthy staff and zero proficiency. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hah, it's fair for everyone. However, I can't deny 0.76 is not very newbie friendly. Too many essential skill is out of newbie reach (Like non-CD imperil for mages). Damn..I alomost forget which patch this one is. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) This post has been edited by gc00018: Jul 9 2013, 10:12
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Jul 9 2013, 18:28
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Zrel
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I've got a question about the shrine. I seem to be only getting Longswords when I ask for two handed weapons. I read the wiki and it seems to imply the trophies are tied to Equipment tiers. I was giving low tier trophies, but I gave a Noodly Appendage and still got a longsword (maybe that was bad luck). Is it true that the trophies only give stuff based on Equipment Tiers now?
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