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> If the new patch totally sucks for you..., Rants and complaints about the awful new HV welcomed.

 
post May 21 2013, 07:14
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This here is a thread just to complain about the new and god-awful HV game...

A place not to request things, but to collect faults so a new fixed game could surface... Or if we are lucky, a rollback to the old 0.75 game.

Here's the first complaint:

1. Monster food and happy pills... Easier to drop or get rid of the hunger and morale thingy completely (happy pills are an extremely rare drop, almost in league with flower base, bubble gum or artifacts. Don't believe me? Go see how much people bid on those at the ítem shop bot... I have trained Scavenger to Lvl 27, Luck of the draw to Lvl 11, Archaeologist to Lvl 5 and in 4 days of fights, grindfest, arenas and ítem world, I have a monumental total of 1 Happy pills and 5 monsters constantly losing morale even though they are well fed). Major FAIL .
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post May 21 2013, 07:21
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what?????????? happy pills are rare drop. OFC why???????? haven't seen any drop of that food for my monsters and they are losing morale................. why?
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post May 21 2013, 07:23
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IWTBH...

Can't do RE IWTBH anymore. I used to be able to do so with a godly healing potion and 2-3 godly mana potions....but with the cool down on Cure; the shity way Silence works now; no XNerf; and well.....the fact that my gear now totally, fucking sucks. (and this is farther then I got with a Mace in the patch...)

Same story for Nintendo, Battletoads, and Hell with 6+ monsters.

I quit.

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I could have had 8 Elixir's of Healing /Godly Healing and still died; any combination of potions, spirit, mana, healing...and still died. I sparked three times in the first five times I attacked the middle monster.

And arenas are shit now, arena of blood is shit now. IW is shit, and I don't have the time to give a shit about this shit anymore.

quit, all the gear going to the bazaar.

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post May 21 2013, 07:32
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ May 21 2013, 15:23) *

IWTBH...

Can't do RE IWTBH anymore. I used to be able to do so with a godly healing potion and 2-3 godly mana potions....but with the cool down on Cure; the shity way Silence works now; no XNerf; and well.....the fact that my gear now totally, fucking sucks. (and this is farther then I got with a Mace in the patch...)

Same story for Nintendo, Battletoads, and Hell with 6+ monsters.

I quit.

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I could have had 8 Elixir's of Healing /Godly Healing and still died; any combination of potions, spirit, mana, healing...and still died. I sparked three times in the first five times I attacked the middle monster.

quit, all the gear going to the bazaar.

Dude, don't do a bunko. Just stop playing and wait for safaripony to balance it out so that it doesn't suck. He will eventually.

What I'm more pissed about is the spastic amount of hath I wasted on auras and other stuff that totally suck now. I think if you're gonna change stuff that people have saved up hath to get and then nuke them, you should refund the hath immediately or at least give people the option of a refund.

TL;DR? Gimme my fucking hath and credits back if you're gonna pull shit like this.
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post May 21 2013, 07:50
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Cloak of the Fallen now only gives one 1 viable turn to react to your predicament. Press an attack target hotkey too fast by habit and you're pretty much dead.
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post May 21 2013, 07:51
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QUOTE(sagara kun @ May 21 2013, 00:21) *

what?????????? happy pills are rare drop. OFC why???????? haven't seen any drop of that food for my monsters and they are losing morale................. why?


Because the gamemaster wanted to introduce costs to maintaining monsters so high leveled players didn't pwn the game so much... But at the same time he/she completely made it imposible for low level players and those of us who can't be at HV all day long to farm for those ítems indiscriminately. Or maybe it is a clever way to make the game "paid for if you want to prosper" in a not so subtle way.
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post May 21 2013, 11:22
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It has become really unhelpful to the start-up player now, that's my main gripe, along with the forced specialization in an 'either/or sort of way', I used to pride myself on being a mele fighter who could 'mage a bit on the side' this alas I cannot do now.
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post May 21 2013, 12:32
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I have to say I don't normally post things on the forums I'm more a lurker than a post however do have to speak out about the new version of HV.

In simply terms it sucks... I'm a lv160 character who plays as a mage, with the new version its almost impossible to play. I've lost 1/2 my spells as I'm too low level to get the tier 3 ones now.
The nerfing of spells so that they only hit 5 or 6 of the mobs instead of all of them.
I had all the HP/MP & EXP abilities learned upto my level and post patch exp is gone, MP has stayed the same but I've lost a 1/3 of my HP.
The coloured Aura's are gone as well so even more exp and stat loss.

So basically to end, please put the game back to how it was. The old version worked fine and didn't need changing.
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post May 21 2013, 13:47
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QUOTE(Anomtai @ May 21 2013, 12:50) *
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Cloak of the Fallen now only gives one 1 viable turn to react to your predicament. Press an attack target hotkey too fast by habit and you're pretty much dead.


it is our habit as melee (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post May 21 2013, 14:12
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QUOTE(ahenayau @ May 21 2013, 21:47) *

QUOTE(Anomtai @ May 21 2013, 15:50) *

Cloak of the Fallen now only gives one 1 viable turn to react to your predicament. Press an attack target hotkey too fast by habit and you're pretty much dead.
it is our habit as melee (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Let me be more specific about this gripe.

Back in the day, when SoL triggered at full AP investment, you got ~30% of your MAX HP back, Cloak basically covered your ass entirely for that ENTIRE turn, added a 75% damage mitigation for the next 4 rounds to whatever else you already got, AND (if you had IA), you got Spark back immediately the start of the next turn.

Now? Now, SoL triggers, you get 1 fucking HP, Cloak does NOT cover your ass on your next move, and Spark reactivates at the END of the next turn (which means, if you got it on the immediate turn after sparking, YOU DIE.

W. T. F.

Oh, and did I mention how MUCH Spirit SoL sucks up now? Unbelievable. If you were level 350, it's probably nothing, but a mid-level like me? Scheisse.
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post May 21 2013, 14:52
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The cool down on the spells has literally crushed Maging

RE' are near impossible just trying cast "the keep my butt alive" spells with long cool down on cure and full cure

Having to pay for the extra Battle Items, Scroll & Infusion slots that I already had

Losing almost hundred Ability Points, because I only had 62 Ability Points trained out of 100

The Mastery Points should eliminated or used like the old Aura's, not to decide if you get full Health Points or
spell damage on any of the spells, etc etc

Three days since the new and not so improved HentaiVerse and I have yet seen a Happy Pill

The credit drop is atrocious and the training, for the most part is entirely to expensive


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post May 21 2013, 15:08
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Losing almost hundred Ability Points, because I only had 62 Ability Points trained out of 100


You mean they're lost forever? I was saving some for the next tier unlocking. Sigh.
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post May 21 2013, 16:19
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QUOTE(quazkov @ May 21 2013, 23:08) *

You mean they're lost forever? I was saving some for the next tier unlocking. Sigh.

Also really fun for those people who bought artifacts to farm ability points. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post May 21 2013, 16:20
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Cleared an arena on IWBTH and got 2 crystals for my troubles, nearly dying in the process. No equipment, not even a single potion, just two crystals.

Should I let my monsters die off? I'm never going to get enough crystals to feed them at this rate thanks to this bullshit.
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post May 21 2013, 16:23
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QUOTE(MSimm1 @ May 21 2013, 22:52) *

Three days since the new and not so improved HentaiVerse and I have yet seen a Happy Pill

One. ONE!!!

55 15 Xeona dropped [Happy Pills]
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post May 21 2013, 18:36
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QUOTE(xmagus @ May 21 2013, 09:23) *

One. ONE!!!

55 15 Xeona dropped [Happy Pills]


Good for you!

Now if you could sell it to the bazaar for what the item shop bot's current bid is (27000 c), you could make up for lost credit drop...

Too bad the bazaar buys for only 4c...
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post May 21 2013, 18:49
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At first with this latest patch I was all "Woo! I have no idea what I'm doing! Woo!"

I enjoy a lot of change, especially when it's done creatively and is overall positive.

But now that I've gotten used to it, it feels like proficiency is even more difficult to grind than it used to be, due to spell cooldowns, since you can no longer spam them to skill (especially Deprecating).

I was already way behind (154-ish Mage build, around 15 proficiency in some spell schools), but now I just feel like a T-Rex in a boxing match (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I also noticed that I could improve Silence, but it was nowhere in my spellbook, so I'm not quite sure what's going on there...
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post May 22 2013, 00:53
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What happens if i go to holidays or am for other reasons not able to play each day?
wil the monsters starve and die then? are we force to stay online all the time?
For what reasons we get changes over changes with the main effect that we loose
almost everything we saved and paid for?
Seems another interesting thing in my life comes to its end...
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post May 22 2013, 01:09
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QUOTE(dontmatter @ May 21 2013, 18:53) *

What happens if i go to holidays or am for other reasons not able to play each day?

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Monster_Lab#Morale_Drain_Rate

"A monster that has not given a gift in over 3 days will stop losing morale until it has delivered a gift."
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post May 22 2013, 01:52
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what?????????? happy pills are rare drop. OFC why???????? haven't seen any drop of that food for my monsters and they are losing morale................. why? Because the gamemaster wanted to introduce costs to maintaining monsters so high leveled players didn't pwn the game so much... But at the same time he/she completely made it imposible for low level players and those of us who can't be at HV all day long to farm for those ítems indiscriminately. Or maybe it is a clever way to make the game "paid for if you want to prosper" in a not so subtle way.


Think Ten also mentioned wanting to discourage multiple account (by one person) monster farming
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