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Ok.

Back to topic once more...

Stumbled upon a nice new feature... Going into item world, fighting through its many fights, get notified that the equipment's potential rose and THEN going to the forge and noticing that said potential increase was just a mirage as the weapon didn't get ANY potential gain...

Reaaaally helpful to the newbies and low-level players struggling to improve their gear...

Hover your cursor on an equipment and press C to show a popup with all forge upgrades and potency unlocks the equipment has. If it is level 0, there is no potency unlock and you need more potency exp. The potency exp you gain is based on the difficulty. At your level, I wouldn't bother too much with IW.

Difficult for me to fight even X15 Encounter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Difficult for me to fight even X15 Encounter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Mage or melee?

As a melee, I can handle IWBTH hourlies well enough. SoL does sometimes trigger when there is many monsters (as opposed to prepatch when I usually didn't even need to cast it), but eh, it wouldn't be fun if it was too easy.

Errrrr.

You have to raise the potential to over the specified level limit to see the hidden potential.

C'mon man. Common sense. This patch, besides the morale bullcrap, isn't half bad anymore.

Ok... Maybe I wrote in an unintelligible manner... I apologize, but let me elaborate...

The weapon I intend to raise in level: Fine Ethereal Longsword of Slaughter.

Currently Lvl 6 372/1179. I entered item World and fought 98 rounds of a required 98. HV notified: "The equipment's potential has increased by 98 points!" (Yeah... Riiight...), therefore it should have been 470/1179... Went to check equipment's potential... Still 372... Tried equipping/changing sets, refreshing page, etc as sometimes HV doesn't update weapon stats immediately... No luck... Then tried to increase it AGAIN by entering it once more and then, and only then, it finally increased its 98 points.

So basically I fought 98 battles for nothing and instead of a 196 point increase, I only got half... YAY!

The update's unfair, still is, and will continue to be so.

My advice is, don't bother with IW until lvl 250 or so. The potency exp is not worth it unless you fight at higher difficulties. Plus, leveling anything less than exquisite is generally not worth it either. And longswords are kinda bad compared to maces and estocs.

You can ask for advice here.

My advice is, don't bother with IW until lvl 250 or so. The potency exp is not worth it unless you fight at higher difficulties. Plus, leveling anything less than exquisite is generally not worth it either. And longswords are kinda bad compared to maces and estocs.

You can ask for advice here.

I appreciate the advice. Thank you.

Unfortunately, since I don't own any exquisites nor have any way of acquiring one of said types of weapons, then there's really no choice for me (and for almost nobody since if we have monsters, crystals will be a constant and increasing-beyond-affordability credit depletion since Happy pills are not an option). Also, I have already spent some bindings on it and some of its unlocked abilities include Swift Strike and Endurance the two at Lvl 3. The +5.83 attack speed is quite useful since I lost my aura's stats and power tank's boosts. My setup for said ethereal is all Power type heavy armor, which I leveled before the patch and that leveling up made me somewhat capable of surviving the deadly nerf as some of those equipment's unlocked potencies include elemental resistencies (my Superior Power Armor of Warding has both 4.0 elecproof and 4.0 fireproof which is leagues better tan 0) additional to the ones already present on some of my other gear's pieces which leave me only without wind, void and holy mitigations.

I chose to upgrade the ethereal for it almost ignores defense and the domino strike's splash damage which is my only somewhat reliable crowd control.

Also my two handed profficiency (nearly 150, Dual Wield at 127.71) is shared with Niten, which I use to level the ethereal with relative success and the other equipment even with this god awful patch.

Why does Imperil cover only elemental resistance reduction? Sounds like a targeted nerf towards Dark/Light mages.

This post has been edited by Blacksheep_Eldric: May 28 2013, 23:42

Ok... Maybe I wrote in an unintelligible manner... I apologize, but let me elaborate...

The weapon I intend to raise in level: Fine Ethereal Longsword of Slaughter.

Currently Lvl 6 372/1179. I entered item World and fought 98 rounds of a required 98. HV notified: "The equipment's potential has increased by 98 points!" (Yeah... Riiight...), therefore it should have been 470/1179... Went to check equipment's potential... Still 372... Tried equipping/changing sets, refreshing page, etc as sometimes HV doesn't update weapon stats immediately... No luck... Then tried to increase it AGAIN by entering it once more and then, and only then, it finally increased its 98 points.

So basically I fought 98 battles for nothing and instead of a 196 point increase, I only got half... YAY!

The update's unfair, still is, and will continue to be so.

What difficulty are you IW'ing in? At Normal, you get 1x increase. On Hard, 1.5x, Nightmare 2x, Hell 3x, and so on. You probably did the IW on Normal. You didn't IW for nothing, you still got 98pts. It has always been this way....

Why does Imperil cover only elemental resistance reduction? Sounds like a targeted nerf towards Dark/Light mages.

It's ALWAYS done that. That -25 to elemental mitigations was the only reason Elemental mage was viable at all pre-0.76 above level 200. This is not a new thing.

The change to specific mitigations that strongly flattens resistances at high PL and spell damage tiers being unified on the other hand. . . Now that's new and in some ways a Dark/Holy nerf, since Ragnarok is no longer unique, still costs more and low resistances now come up higher and for fewer crystals (which makes Holy/Dark's better resist profile less of an advantage).

What difficulty are you IW'ing in? At Normal, you get 1x increase. On Hard, 1.5x, Nightmare 2x, Hell 3x, and so on. You probably did the IW on Normal. You didn't IW for nothing, you still got 98pts. It has always been this way....

Maybe a more extensive elaboration is needed... Again... I apologize.

You see... I don't use IW for nothing other than to level an specific piece of gear.

Also, I CAN'T fight a full 98 rounds of IW on anything beyond normal difficulty since my gear just doesn't protect me enough from the mobs and keeping HP, MP and SP with my setup is impossible at a higher difficulty.

I do not have any kind of gear that could save my hide in such a situation, hence I try to level up what I got in the hopes it will make me survive a tad easier.

When I said I fought 98 rounds for nothing I meant I entered IW TWICE in the same sesión and got only 98 points total from out of those two times as the points from the first entering of the IW "disappeared" or didn't register.

Maybe a more extensive elaboration is needed... Again... I apologize.

You see... I don't use IW for nothing other than to level an specific piece of gear.

Also, I CAN'T fight a full 98 rounds of IW on anything beyond normal difficulty since my gear just doesn't protect me enough from the mobs and keeping HP, MP and SP with my setup is impossible at a higher difficulty.

I do not have any kind of gear that could save my hide in such a situation, hence I try to level up what I got in the hopes it will make me survive a tad easier.

When I said I fought 98 rounds for nothing I meant I entered IW TWICE in the same sesión and got only 98 points total from out of those two times as the points from the first entering of the IW "disappeared" or didn't register.

better to change your equipment than lvl it up for your LvL now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by ahenayau: May 29 2013, 10:39

The more I read from doomgaze the more I weep.

The more I read from doomgaze the more I weep.

And the more you post here not on topic makes me wonder why you in your infinite HV wisdon do so.

But then again, some other people have already said what you behave like, so it is to be expected.

At least Dan31 was a much more helpful than your kind of "wisdom" ever was.

So basically I fought 98 battles for nothing and instead of a 196 point increase, I only got half... YAY!

You may have leveled up an equip with the same name?

At least Dan31 was a much more helpful than your kind of "wisdom" ever was.

My wisdom has helped hundreds if not thousands via the wiki. You chose not to use it, clearly.

My wisdom has helped hundreds if not thousands via the wiki. You chose not to use it, clearly.

Is that a fact? Then perhaps one of the traits of a hardcore, high level player is ESP... The fact that you are able to discern what I actually do behind my screen when I do it is amazing.

Just a tiny little thing...

May I ask then where on the wiki is your article about IW clears not registering potential points' gains?

From all the posts you have made here there's not a single one where help is offered clearly and directly and instead the ones made have been splashed all over by mockery, arrogance and lack of simpathy towards others (non versed or new players or low level ones).

Using slandering wordage, calling names and generally being rude is hardly the kind of person whose "wisdon" anyone would ask for.

Since your attitude and disposition towards helping low level players, inexperienced ones, new ones or those who can not adapt to these awful changes well enough in a courteous and respectful manner is clearly lacking, then I humbly ask of you to stop bothering with this thread for it is a waste of space, your and our times.

May I ask then where on the wiki is your article about IW clears not registering potential points' gains?

Nowhere, because that doesn't happen. Either you screwed up and entered the wrong equipment or it's the known visual bug.

I humbly ask

You have done nothing humbly. You shouted from the rooftops how other players must be suffering in this patch simply because you are having a hard time. You could have bought a significantly better weapon for basically peanuts yet you chose to waste time IWing a crap weapon.

I'm not going anywhere until you start following the advice of the more experienced and stop pretending to represent anyone besides yourself.

Nowhere, because that doesn't happen. Either you screwed up and entered the wrong equipment or it's the known visual bug.
You have done nothing humbly. You shouted from the rooftops how other players must be suffering in this patch simply because you are having a hard time. You could have bought a significantly better weapon for basically peanuts yet you chose to waste time IWing a crap weapon.

I'm not going anywhere until you start following the advice of the more experienced and stop pretending to represent anyone besides yourself.

As stated before...

This thread was made to be a place to vent out the frustrations of players, whom, like me, are dissatisfied with the current shape HV has taken. it is YOU who came here and went into a (Beg your pardon, fellow players) "Noob", "Idiots", "Lowbies" "crap gear" bashing spree.

I level a (to you at least) "crap" weapon because I have invested bindings, materials, IW time and have risen it somewhat steadily into a very acceptable (even with these awful changes) state which allows me to fight almost comfortably in normal, somewhat challenging in hard and almost impossible in other difficulties which makes the game much more challenging than simply raising the difficulty while possessing Magnificent+ leveled up gear.

Of course I take other players into account, because I care for those who haven't got even what I have now and are suddenly struggling. My main concern is Morale and Hunger, the IW bug I encountered and the newly introduced costs and their unaffordability (Crystals, Training, Abilities, Monster food/Happy Pills) to some players, myself included.

Just because YOU don't care means I should behave the same, hence this thread's creation.

As for "shouting from the rooftops", it is you who is doing just that, demanding that I do as YOU SAY in a thread I made for others who share my point of view... The difference is that I DO NOT use slandering wordage, call names and behave most unbecoming of a "more experienced player" while doing so.

If you won't stop posting here just because we (or me as you seem so fixated on assuming) must do as you say for it is god's unquestionable will and wisdom... Then I'd much rather become an atheist and just ignore the preacher for it is my right (and those who share my opinion's) to do so.

I level a (to you at least) "crap" weapon because I have invested bindings, materials, IW time and have risen it somewhat steadily into a very acceptable (even with these awful changes) state

Link it.

My main concern is Morale and Hunger

Which are not going anywhere no matter how much you complain since they are working as intended.

the IW bug I encountered

Which does not exist.

and the newly introduced costs and their unaffordability

Which is highly untrue since the costs for most of those things have gone down over the last few patches. The only real credit loss for some players were the item slots.

Just because YOU don't care means I should behave the same, hence this thread's creation.

I care enough to point out what is and is not wasting your time. Whining doesn't solve anything, it just lets you play victim. Those with legitimate gripes and concerns have already posted them, myself included. All you've done so far is proven how poorly you play.

arena even on normal sux right now cantr use cure repeatedly have to wait 5 turns thats BS

well the update broke both abilities and equipment as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)