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Apr 13 2013, 21:06
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Nightwishman
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How in the hell does anyone make 200K+ a day?
I do all my arenas + some extra GF/IW; even factoring any monster gifts and artifacts I most likely get 9-13k a day.
Which buys nothing.
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Apr 13 2013, 21:10
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SoraNoAki
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^Wait what? You sure you don't mean 90-130k a day?
My average of credits that I get out of the Arenas is around 70-80k, a Noodly Appendage = 45k. My artifact usually bring me around 4 hath. The equipment that I get, is around +-25k a day. 75+45+60+25= 205k on average a day, it is more than possible.
Edited: a typo.
This post has been edited by SoraNoAki: Apr 13 2013, 21:12
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Apr 13 2013, 21:11
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Musashi92
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QUOTE(SoraNoAki @ Apr 13 2013, 10:43)  I didn't want to sound too cruel, but I guess it is then. I don't really care either way. How do you get rich? By sitting by and doing nothing? You're understanding of making money is really twisted if it's by that standards.
Why would you complain on the cost of quality equipment? It's only logical that things that are rare, or one of a kind items are expensive. If you really want it, you can outbid people by playing more. It's as simple as that.
In real life or on here? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I know you have to work your ass off, but even if you do, when you do get the money they just go up even more. Quality my ass, I have seen Superior's go for more than Mag's, when when the superior is more than the Mag. It's really item cost is fucked up. Back when I was starting out Superior's was dirt price and mags was high price. Now there prices are all over the place. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Than when you do get something good, things just get fucked up more than what you have that is good turns into shit. All the rich people paying out the ass for even some low cost things over time makes them go up, than the Mags go down, than someone bids super high where MAGS become in the fucking Insane price. Now for a nice Legendary I can see, but with mags it's just dumb. =================================================== I do 90% of my arenas, than sell the crap gear I get, let alone playing on them on higher gets you more. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) This post has been edited by wolfgirl of autumn92: Apr 13 2013, 21:13
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Apr 13 2013, 21:17
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Nightwishman
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QUOTE(SoraNoAki @ Apr 13 2013, 21:10)  ^Wait what? You sure you don't mean 90-130k a day?
My average of credits that I get out of the Arenas is around 70-80k, a Noodly Appendage = 45k. My artifact usually bring me around 4 hath. The equipment that I get, is around +-25k a day. 75+45+60+25= 205k on average a day, it is more than possible.
Edited: a typo.
I definitely mean 9-13K. No extra zeros. I find one or two artifacts a day at most; usually none. Equipment sells for less then 300 usually, and I get 0-5 per arena, about 20 or so each day, nothing worth keeping; anything superior under 700CR (most of it) I scavenge; the two exquisites I got got scavenged because...junk. Occasionally, my monsters bring me good stuff...but that hasn't happened in a few weeks. I've got 12 or so monsters, just to get the materials, but having sold the crystals would have been a better idea in the long run.
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Apr 13 2013, 21:20
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SoraNoAki
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QUOTE(wolfgirl of autumn92 @ Apr 13 2013, 20:11)  In real life or on here? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I know you have to work your ass off, but even if you do, when you do get the money they just go up even more. Quality my ass, I have seen Superior's go for more than Mag's, when when the superior is more than the Mag. It's really item cost is fucked up. Back when I was starting out Superior's was dirt price and mags was high price. Now there prices are all over the place. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Than when you do get something good, things just get fucked up more than what you have that is good turns into shit. All the rich people paying out the ass for even some low cost things over time makes them go up, than the Mags go down, than someone bids super high where MAGS become in the fucking Insane price. Now for a nice Legendary I can see, but with mags it's just dumb. Yeah I can agree with you on that point, the prices now are generally higher then before. I guess I'm just lucky to have bought my equipment on the right time. (And with the right time, I mean right on the moment my equipment a bit worse due to the fact that there where reinforced and agile introduced. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)) The unpredictability of the game isn't, well, fun. But it is a part of it. It's a shame that prefix of a equip doesn't really tell anything about the equipment itself.
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Apr 13 2013, 22:25
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海想列車
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QUOTE(SoraNoAki @ Apr 13 2013, 12:20)  Yeah I can agree with you on that point, the prices now are generally higher then before. I don't know about that—Exquisite Shade of the Fleet (with only Dexterity and Agility) used to go for 300,000, but you can get something with all four "melee attributes" for just a bit over 100,000 now. And the price for Exquisite Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter hasn't changed at all from last year's. QUOTE(RagingHeart @ Mar 30 2013, 08:25)  TH02 [END] Exquisite Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter Current bid:1650K(moriihidari) seller:o10748 QUOTE TH06 [END] Exquisite Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter Current bid:1000K(guokangyu2) seller:masakiando And this (without upgrades) was 1,500,000 last year. (It's probably a lot cheaper now.) This post has been edited by aurabolt: Apr 13 2013, 22:35
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Apr 13 2013, 22:33
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Nightwishman
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.. 1,650,000 Credits.
Sure....I'll get there....someday...in a cold day in hell.
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Apr 13 2013, 22:40
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SoraNoAki
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QUOTE(aurabolt @ Apr 13 2013, 21:25)  I don't know about that—Exquisite Shade of the Fleet (with only Dexterity and Agility) used to go for 300,000, but you can get something with all four "melee attributes" for just a bit over 100,000 now. And the price for Exquisite Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter hasn't changed at all from last year's.
Yeah, I guess you do make a point there... My equipment has actually had a decrease in price. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I haven't really been following the WTS in particular, so I picked some equipment I had seen in November and checked the price now, which isn't really a good research. I've to take back my previous statement.
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Apr 13 2013, 22:47
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Musashi92
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QUOTE(SoraNoAki @ Apr 13 2013, 11:20)  Yeah I can agree with you on that point, the prices now are generally higher then before. I guess I'm just lucky to have bought my equipment on the right time. (And with the right time, I mean right on the moment my equipment a bit worse due to the fact that there where reinforced and agile introduced. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)) The unpredictability of the game isn't, well, fun. But it is a part of it. It's a shame that prefix of a equip doesn't really tell anything about the equipment itself. I got lucky and got a lot of My MAG gear at the right time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) QUOTE(aurabolt @ Apr 13 2013, 12:25)  I don't know about that—Exquisite Shade of the Fleet (with only Dexterity and Agility) used to go for 300,000, but you can get something with all four "melee attributes" for just a bit over 100,000 now. And the price for Exquisite Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter hasn't changed at all from last year's. And this (without upgrades) was 1,500,000 last year. (It's probably a lot cheaper now.) Yes I seen the 1,500,000 I was drooling over it at one time. Still you have it, it's really nice but the price (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) If you want I give you 124k, 2 spair pony;s I have and 5 hath for it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) NO...ok (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by wolfgirl of autumn92: Apr 13 2013, 22:47
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Apr 13 2013, 23:30
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海想列車
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Apr 13 2013, 13:33)  Hell's already frozen then. QUOTE Scavenger: 28/50 (171K) Luck of the Draw: 12/25 (214K) Quartermaster: 10/20 (301K) Archaeologist: 4/10 (142K) Based on your training levels from last month, you managed to earn and spend at least 2,079,232 Credits. (The last two levels for each of those add up to 947,907.) Trust me, you can earn that much again—you've done it before.
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Apr 14 2013, 02:55
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Nightwishman
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QUOTE(aurabolt @ Apr 13 2013, 23:30)  Based on your training levels from last month, you managed to earn and spend at least 2,079,232 Credits. (The last two levels for each of those add up to 947,907.)
Trust me, you can earn that much again—you've done it before.
Only because my monsters brought me several phazon and slaughter bindings within a very narrow time period, and I was able to sell about 100K in hath. But dry as a bone since then.
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Apr 14 2013, 03:02
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Apr 14 2013, 07:55)  Only because my monsters brought me several phazon and slaughter bindings within a very narrow time period, and I was able to sell about 100K in hath.
But dry as a bone since then.
my mobs just give me 1 slaughter since i playing HV for the first time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) This post has been edited by ahenayau: Apr 14 2013, 03:03
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Apr 14 2013, 03:09
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calibur
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I didn't get a single one. No phazons either. I'm poor as shit. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) There's no point in complaining about it though. Eventually we'll get lucky or failing that we'll grind to the point where we're not poor. I'm happy to say I'm doing both (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Apr 14 2013, 04:01
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Lement
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Apr 13 2013, 22:06)  How in the hell does anyone make 200K+ a day?
I do all my arenas + some extra GF/IW; even factoring any monster gifts and artifacts I most likely get 9-13k a day.
Which buys nothing.
At your level I did all arenas and got about 50k on it after selling the equips. Currently, at your level, if you do all arenas you'll kill 4376 monsters, including the bosses. I don't know about their credit multiplier, but arena clears would be 17260 credits alone, while monsters would give an average of 19692 on normal and up to 123075 credits on IWBTH great stamina - granted, to maintain that one would need to use energy drinks, and I'm not sure if that is appropriate for lower arenas. You don't get much bonus from PL drop chance, but with your loot drop trainings there's quite good chance that one of those monsters drops an artifact. This is not including equip sell value. I also IWed for other people in easy item worlds at that time, which brought me, disregarding smalltime deals, somewhere in the range of 400-800k each. Such efforts brought me also lots of artifacts - I charged 36 per PXP(round), so you can easily imagine it that this was a task that took hours of effort - which sold at 18k then. Also, I seriously doubt you spent as much on your mobs as several phazons and slaughter bindings are worth. This post has been edited by Lement: Apr 14 2013, 04:02
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