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Nov 9 2014, 16:17
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Nov 9 2014, 15:02)  nope. imo, same chance. it's just a numbers game, because you're more likely to get Good stuff by playing more. Essentially, you're rolling the "good" dice 5 times a day instead of rolling the dice once every 5 days. ps. having 25 Lotd helps. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) it's only a 'shooting at the loot' matter then (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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Nov 9 2014, 16:38
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kumosu
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Nov 9 2014, 17:32
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djackallstar
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 9 2014, 23:29)  Me? Rich? What would you call Jenga then? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Fossist.
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Nov 9 2014, 17:32
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 9 2014, 17:29)  Me? Rich? What would you call Jenga then? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) mega-rich. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) ps: QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 9 2014, 17:11)  A2 5.7m
This is my final bid. Over this price, you win!
This post has been edited by malkatmp: Nov 9 2014, 17:33
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Nov 9 2014, 17:37
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tetron
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5.7m is cheap considering the "Perfect Roll" of that piece.
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Nov 9 2014, 17:52
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 9 2014, 16:37)  5.7m is cheap considering the "Perfect Roll" of that piece.
just two suggestions: 1) don't say when you're going to leave, you're basically tell your enemy 'hey, if you grind a bit more for another week you can win this piece' 2) g is a troll. whether 20M for him is much money or not, he would always show that face. don't care too much about what he says (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Nov 9 2014, 17:57
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Al2aNoS
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How spirit thief working? I use drain and only vital thief that working.
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Nov 9 2014, 18:01
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arialinnoc
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QUOTE(Al2aNoS @ Nov 9 2014, 22:57)  How spirit thief working? I use drain and only vital thief that working.
When you use drain on a mob that has Ripened Soul effect.
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Nov 9 2014, 18:03
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 9 2014, 17:37)  5.7m is cheap considering the "Perfect Roll" of that piece.
i wish i've 5.7+m lying around (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 9 2014, 17:52)  just two suggestions: 1) don't say when you're going to leave, you're basically tell your enemy 'hey, if you grind a bit more for another week you can win this piece' 2) g is a troll. whether 20M for him is much money or not, he would always show that face. don't care too much about what he says (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) 2. imo, 20M is not a lot for GC. him and a few others will/had spend 60m on an item just for "collection". never used, never forged, never IWed. QUOTE(Al2aNoS @ Nov 9 2014, 17:57)  How spirit thief working? I use drain and only vital thief that working.
cast Corruption/Disintegrate/Ragnarok, if there's Ripened Soul effect on a monster cast Drain on that monster for spirit thief. though, iirc, you need to slot Spirit Theft
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Nov 9 2014, 18:13
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Al2aNoS
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Thank you all. But I'm fighter so what should I do? spend ap on ripened soul or do nothing.
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Nov 9 2014, 18:16
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tetron
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 9 2014, 21:22)  just two suggestions: 1) don't say when you're going to leave, you're basically tell your enemy 'hey, if you grind a bit more for another week you can win this piece' 2) g is a troll. whether 20M for him is much money or not, he would always show that face. don't care too much about what he says (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) 1) Okay. I'll keep that in mind. Actually, I was hoping that the other bidder would think this: "That's his final bid? Okay, let him have it at that inflated price", which sadly didn't happen! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) That was a perfect piece! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) 2) Figured that much. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE(malkatmp @ Nov 9 2014, 21:33)  2. imo, 20M is not a lot for GC. him and a few others will/had spend 60m on an item just for "collection". never used, never forged, never IWed.
Do you have the link of that equipment? Oh, and let me faint before you post it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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Nov 9 2014, 18:28
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Al2aNoS @ Nov 9 2014, 17:13)  Thank you all. But I'm fighter so what should I do? spend ap on ripened soul or do nothing.
ripened soul/spirit theft is only needed to replenish your SP by using your MP. it requires ragnarok to be reliable (or disintegrate as the *barely* minimum), but at your level the relative ability won't give a decent chance for the process to happen. go on with spirit potions and meanwhile grind your forbidden prof once in a while QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 9 2014, 17:16)  1) Okay. I'll keep that in mind. Actually, I was hoping that the other bidder would think this: "That's his final bid? Okay, let him have it at that inflated price", which sadly didn't happen! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) That was a perfect piece! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) oh, i only told you my impression, feel free to hope the other way. it just doesn't seem too realistic for me. and as it was a perfect piece for you, it was also for others (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 9 2014, 17:16)  Do you have the link of that equipment?
those people don't collect items as you may think. chances are that it's something like a leg radiant phase rather than a sword chucks. but i'm curious myself (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: Nov 9 2014, 18:30
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Nov 9 2014, 18:45
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djackallstar
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What's This?A tutorial teaching new players how to calculate the price of an Item World service. QuestionNotation Used- r: The minimum number of rounds needed to complete to obtain any PXP.
- M: PXP multiplier.
- end_level: The equip is gonna level up from Lv.0 to Lv.(end_level).
- c: The price per PXP (usually in credtis), specified by the Item World service provider.
SolutionFirst, calculate price per run. (1 run consists of r rounds) Second, calculate number of runs needed. Total price = price per run * number of runs needed.
1. price per run = roundup(r * M * c) = roundup(46 * 15.6 * 17) = roundup(12199.2) = 12200 credits. 2. number of runs needed = roundup(total PXP needed / PXP per run) = roundup(1000*((1+PXP(1)/1000)^end_level - 1) / (r * M)) = roundup(1000*((1+313/1000)^9 - 1) / (46 * 15.6)) = roundup(14.768652157804675) = 15 runs. 3. Total price = 12200 * 15 = 183,000 credits.
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/okyHbWQ.png)
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/i9g0YCC.png) AnswerTotal price = 183,000 credits. This post has been edited by djackallstar: Dec 28 2014, 10:38
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Nov 9 2014, 18:51
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Nov 9 2014, 17:45)  - snip -
there's a way to calculate the number of rounds without the need to open IW round by yourself: 1) calculate equip quality, starting from PXP (0) (which is btw, what you indicated with PXP(1) ) 2) calculate number of IW rounds starting from quality
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Nov 9 2014, 18:55
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Ichy
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What is the best setting for farming Crystals?
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Nov 9 2014, 19:02
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djackallstar
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 10 2014, 00:51)  there's a way to calculate the number of rounds without the need to open IW round by yourself: 1) calculate equip quality, starting from PXP (0) (which is btw, what you indicated with PXP(1) ) 2) calculate number of IW rounds starting from quality I know, right? I don't recommend using the formula you said as it's just an approximation (like the wiki says), not an exact value. And, for a new comer, it's much easier to see the value by entering an Item World, instead of reading thru wiki pages and doing math. Btw I suggest ppl reading my post use PXP(1) rather than PXP(0), because it is the same as the one wiki uses: " the amount of PXP required to advance from level (x-1) to level x." This post has been edited by djackallstar: Nov 9 2014, 19:07
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Nov 9 2014, 19:03
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tetron
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 9 2014, 21:58)  those people don't collect items as you may think. chances are that it's something like a leg radiant phase rather than a sword chucks. but i'm curious myself (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Leg radiant phase? Then I guessed right! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Ichy @ Nov 9 2014, 22:25)  What is the best setting for farming Crystals?
BT is the best choice. There is a huuuuuge gap in clearing speed if you compare PFUDOR and BT. In general PFUDOR is much more slow of a choice if your primary goal is to farm Crystal.
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Nov 9 2014, 19:07
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Nov 10 2014, 03:55)  What is the best setting for farming Crystals?
hellfest prepare to chuck energy drink though (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Nov 9 2014, 19:13
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Colman
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Nov 10 2014, 00:55)  What is the best setting for farming Crystals?
WTB (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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