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For what it's worth, I got 5k from my snowflake.

Used to be 500, so that supports the 10x hypothesis.

One post a day is all anybody needs. If you don't feel like being a dedicated productive poster, just find a thread in HV Chat. There are threads like "How much experience until next level" and stuff like that, should be perfect.

- The daily dawn credits were significantly increased, by a factor of between 5 and 20.

Does this mean we get a random amount between 5x and 20x increase in our old dawn credits bonus?
So if we where getting say 10k we would now potentially get 50k-200k?

I can confirm that Tristar gets 20k and Quintstar gets 30k, not 30k and 50k.
Why would it change? It was never affected by the randomness of the normal credit gain before.

Furthermore, its likely the multiplier is 20x for the random credits without a metallic aura, 10x for bronze to gold, then scaling down to 5x for Catgirl.

Well if it's been confirmed by multiple of the same star level then I guess that's that.
Reasons it could have been set to a changing rate:
1) This isn't the same amount we got when we signed up for it. Any change that could happen could be "incredibly drastic" or really simple, just using the past setup isn't enough to predict the future exactly.
2) The multipliers could be a new stat added to everyone's credits separate from whatever base value may exist. This new random multiplier could have been added after the star perks, the math of which would certainly not be unheard of here.
3) Since he just said there would be between 4 and 20 times as much credits, there's nothing that says this multiplier wouldn't be random and apply to everyone's credits.

All in all the matter is already settled (and I'll get my first hand proof tomorrow), with your numbers being apparently right. I just wanted to point out that a changing credit amount isn't ridiculous (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

One post a day is all anybody needs. If you don't feel like being a dedicated productive poster, just find a thread in HV Chat. There are threads like "How much experience until next level" and stuff like that, should be perfect.

"All you need to do is check your privacy settings after the update." This is one of those mindset things. It doesn't matter if that's "all anybody needs," it shouldn't be needed. Do you really think it's a good plan to effectively force people who were otherwise avoiding the forums to do so or be penalized? And some of them have good reasons; I tend to get sarcastic and snappy in forums, so I avoid them, and thus avoid being a jerk, only using them if I have an issue, and thanking those without that deficiency that help out. Do you really want to force me on here once a day?

Does this mean we get a random amount between 5x and 20x increase in our old dawn credits bonus?
So if we where getting say 10k we would now potentially get 50k-200k?

On most of the 18 pages before this one that has been stated to be the case.

This post has been edited by southrim: Jul 30 2012, 08:04

So...I have seen people complaining about the EXP bonus.
At this rate we are going to get nothing good from Tenb anymore: once Tenb give something quite imbalanced, and when he adjust to fit the actual circumstances people start complaining!?

Seriously, is that really THAT difficult to post once per day? There's like 10 threads in HV chat which you can freely spam! And you only need 1 post per day!

And don't forget this 5% is still a great improvement from the shitty 100 EXP we get some time ago!

This post has been edited by varst: Jul 30 2012, 08:10

Its because people got too happy with the 10%. There's probably some misunderstanding about how the new bonus is calculated, as well. Possibly even a bug that's making it come out wrong.

Personally, I think its stupid. Its ridiculously easy to get EXP in the current state of the game.

"All you need to do is check your privacy settings after the update." This is one of those mindset things. It doesn't matter if that's "all anybody needs," it shouldn't be needed. Do you really think it's a good plan to effectively force people who were otherwise avoiding the forums to do so or be penalized? And some of them have good reasons; I tend to get sarcastic and snappy in forums, so I avoid them, and thus avoid being a jerk, only using them if I have an issue, and thanking those without that deficiency that help out. Do you really want to force me on here once a day?

I'm really just trying to be helpful to those who want the bonus. If you like the game that much and want the extra bonus XP there are alternatives like donating some more money, training, auras and hath perks.

How close are you to your next level up?

Just one example of where you can post.

Doing item world for the potency leveling doesn't add anything if you do 50 rounds out of XXX on hard or higher. I had to complete 170 rounds (the rounds it listed) on normal to get anything to be added.

Is the "challenge level and the number of rounds that have been cleared" basically BS or just not working like stated?

Doing item world for the potency leveling doesn't add anything if you do 50 rounds out of XXX on hard or higher. I had to complete 170 rounds (the rounds it listed) on normal to get anything to be added.

Is the "challenge level and the number of rounds that have been cleared" basically BS or just not working like stated?

I got a little over 70 out of 96 rounds to complete. I was so mad but meh. Would be nice if however many rounds you completed is counted and completing all rounds gets you a small bonus.

Doing item world for the potency leveling doesn't add anything if you do 50 rounds out of XXX on hard or higher. I had to complete 170 rounds (the rounds it listed) on normal to get anything to be added.

Is the "challenge level and the number of rounds that have been cleared" basically BS or just not working like stated?

Well, of course you have to finish the xxx rounds. Otherwise there won't be any challenge.
(Imagine people grinding the first few rounds in IWBTH just to get the EXP for potency)

I'm not against this suggestion, but there's a good reason why you'll have to finish IW in order to enjoy the bonus.

This post has been edited by varst: Jul 30 2012, 08:19

And don't forget this 5% is still a great improvement from the shitty 100 EXP we get some time ago!

I was just about to say the same thing, the BIG Dawn EXP Events are only recent, and weird when they happened too. If anything this is going back and somewhat fixing it. The EXP nerf seems to only effect Dawn Event, so just play the game to get EXP instead of asking for handouts... lol.

Its ridiculously easy to get EXP in the current state of the game.

I also agree with this. The past few updates have made attack hit chance and power ridiculous.

This post has been edited by HeNtAiBaBeScOoL: Jul 30 2012, 08:29

- The amount of potency the item gains depends both on the challenge level and the number of rounds that have been cleared.

Well then that statement is false then if you have to do all XXX rounds to get anything added. Makes it not worth the effort.

So...I have seen people complaining about the EXP bonus.
At this rate we are going to get nothing good from Tenb anymore: once Tenb give something quite imbalanced, and when he adjust to fit the actual circumstances people start complaining!?

Seriously, is that really THAT difficult to post once per day? There's like 10 threads in HV chat which you can freely spam! And you only need 1 post per day!

And don't forget this 5% is still a great improvement from the shitty 100 EXP we get some time ago!

Its because people got too happy with the 10%. There's probably some misunderstanding about how the new bonus is calculated, as well. Possibly even a bug that's making it come out wrong.

Personally, I think its stupid. Its ridiculously easy to get EXP in the current state of the game.

I'm really just trying to be helpful to those who want the bonus. If you like the game that much and want the extra bonus XP there are alternatives like donating some more money, training, auras and hath perks.

How close are you to your next level up?

Just one example of where you can post.

While flipping through the forum looking for answers (searching "dawn"), I saw no complaints I can recall of the Dawn exp getting cut in half- every complaint was that it was "less" than half of what it was, to as low as, in my case, 26 exp. Please, check yourself.

This is because getting half requires the forum bonus, and it shouldn't. That you don't get that is the mindset thing I was talking about. People who don't want to use the forum, don't want to use the forum, and forcing them to is a Bad Thing (and Tenboro should feel bad for forcing it, #meme). You three have about 7,750, 9,825, and 4,750 posts. Just as a means of self preservation for you, do you think it will raise the grade of conversation or lower it to have however many people forced onto here every day that don't want to? It doesn't matter that there are easy threads for it anymore than it matters that privacy settings are right there in your Facebook profile, it shouldn't be necessary. And it deserves criticism; the thing that was done wrong shouldn't get a pass because other things were done right or are beneficial. It doesn't matter that the theater renovations gave it 20 toilets with bidets and foot massagers if there's only one sink.

You can see that I don't have the pony thing in the upper right of my posts. That's not because I didn't want it, gave one damn one way about the other about Friendship is Magic, or I didn't know. I knew. I knew the first day it started, because I check the news every day and read update threads. I just didn't give a damn. I had no reason to post because I didn't have a problem, so I didn't.

But it's not likely you're going to get this. You don't mind posting, and can't understand why someone would care about a requirement to, just like Facebook employees didn't mind sharing everything about themselves and thus never considered that a person might not want to share their spring break photos with their coworkers and parents and priest.

Recap: no one cares that it went from 10% to 5%. They care that it went from 10% to effectively zero, and will be annoyed that the reason is to force them to post on a forum they don't want to post on.

This post has been edited by southrim: Jul 30 2012, 08:45

Play the game to level up like we used to (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

People who don't want to use the forum, don't want to use the forum

Then don't use the forum. What are you doing right now?

Then don't use the forum. What are you doing right now?

Asking you to read post #365 and not twist my words.

This post has been edited by southrim: Jul 30 2012, 09:02

Play the game to level up like we used to (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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For Item World, does the forge upgrades get retroactively applied?

They are dynamically applied factors, so yes.

Im curious why the equipment prices were cut so much, not like it was a huge credit generator..

Like it says there right in the patch notes, I wasn't planning on changing them, but since levels got removed it forced a change in the formula. And I wasn't going to give everyone level 400 equipment values just to appease you lot.

At this rate we are going to get nothing good from Tenb anymore: once Tenb give something quite imbalanced, and when he adjust to fit the actual circumstances people start complaining!?

Story of my life. Celestia forbid you actually have to do maintain a minimum activity level to get a bonus.

Story of my life. Celestia forbid you actually have to do maintain a minimum activity level to get a bonus.

You mean bonuses aren't mandatory?!