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0.70.5

- Due to a widely exploited bug in how salvaged bindings were calculated, required forge exp per level and forge exp given for upgrades have both been increased by a factor of ten, effectively resetting it.

If you want people to report bugs in very quick fashion instead of exploiting the hell out of them, you could always just try something similar to the old flash game "Kingdom of Loathing" if you like?

How they solved the problem for those who don't know was roughly as follows:

If you report a major bug, you get a "Bugfinder Blade".
If you report a bug that could be used to effectively gain infinite stats or currency or something similarly game breaking, you get a "Bigger Bugfinder Blade".

A Bugfinder Blade was a 2H sword that was very shiny, special, impossible to sell or transfer, impossible to obtain any other way, and roughly as good as the best 2H sword in the game you could otherwise obtain. A Bigger Bugfinder Blade was basically the same, but with even better stats than that.


Since not everyone here holds a melee weapon like they did in KoL and it'd be completely nontransferable, you should probably let them have some sort of limited control over the item type they get but otherwise the basic principle is the same.

Hoping that people report exploitable bugs that could give an advantage, simply out of the milk of human kindness, is a losing bet. The carrot and the stick won't get you a report on every single exploitable bug the moment it's first found but I can guarantee you'll find out about the majority of them that much quicker, since only the first to report gets the "carrot", per se.

Ah my bad. You were talking about the potency exp.
Why should he change this though? It makes no sense. Since technically nothing that would affect it changed..

Should be changed to make forging a viable way to level gear. As it is now, the potentcy xp gains from forging might as well not exist

I'm pretty sure I -accidentally- postulated about this bug in the live chat very early on in 0.70 but no one paid me any heed... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Tenboro like; player hate = "working as intended"
Tenboro hate; player like = "bug/exploit"

I called it "working as intended" since it still cost me tons of credits and materials.

Well that explains this thread, yes it does.

Why else would someone YOUR level need low-grade mats? I should have figured something suspicious was up in the first place.

Hoping that people report exploitable bugs that could give an advantage, simply out of the milk of human kindness, is a losing bet.

You must be a disciple of Xunzi.

You must be a disciple of Xunzi.

I thought it was from Macbeth?

I'm pretty sure I -accidentally- postulated about this bug in the live chat very early on in 0.70 but no one paid me any heed... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Sometime, being as loud and as obnoxious as possible helps in this kind of situation.

"But I'm not that kind of guy!" you might say... Well, just pretend that you are. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)




PS. I wonder who reported the bug to Tenb... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

This post has been edited by buktore: Sep 3 2012, 09:26

Seriously how did you not see that coming?

I did see it coming. I even tested against it specifically. But apparently at some point after I tested it, something got changed.

It's not easy, you know, making sure that all the ducks are in a row.

Perhaps you should employ beta testers for patches so things like this don't happen are less likely to happen.

Yeah, that's what I should spend the site's funds on, employing beta testers for the stupid minigame. And how would volunteer beta testers differ from the current situation?

Here's an even better idea: maybe you shouldn't exploit obviously unintended bugs for long periods of time?

I did see it coming. I even tested against it specifically. But apparently at some point after I tested it, something got changed.

It's not easy, you know, making sure that all the ducks are in a row.

I was talking to hito because i thought he exploited the bug but he denied it.

Beta testing would be fun. Just throw some of us at the test server a week or so before the patch so we can complain in advance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

He could just make the patch live 1 week earlier to achieve the same effect... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

He could just make the patch live 1 week earlier to achieve the same effect... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Nah that would be stupid! No one wants the patches faster!

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Well that explains this thread, yes it does.

Why else would someone YOUR level need low-grade mats? I should have figured something suspicious was up in the first place.

Well you're 100% wrong since I had that thread long before that bug showed up, and it's still there afterwards.

I'll still buy LG, just for less since straight crude upgrading is no longer the most cost effective forging.

Yeah, that's what I should spend the site's funds on, employing beta testers for the stupid minigame. And how would volunteer beta testers differ from the current situation?

Here's an even better idea: maybe you shouldn't exploit obviously unintended bugs for long periods of time?

I didn't say cash. There are plenty of people around here willing to waste their time for a little extra valueless e-cash.

I was talking to hito because i thought he exploited the bug but he denied it.

Only in whatever delusions you thought in your own head.



This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Sep 2 2012, 22:16

There are plenty of people around here willing to waste their time for a little extra valueless e-cash.

Some would do it for free.

Some would do it for free.

True story (IMG:[www.laymark.com] http://www.laymark.com/l/m/m177.gif)

Some would do it for free.

I'd want a cookie and milk or maybe some popcorn. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

You assholes! I've gone from forge level 1.5 to forge level 0.2! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Cheating is bad, m'kay. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Great, The day after I forge something for the first time this happens.

Lucky that I'm still forge exp 0. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)