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post Jul 1 2012, 08:26
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Jul 1 2012, 01:02) *

I honestly have no idea why the hell people are so obsessed with the Item Shop Bot.


Except for trophies, it's still a strictly worse WTS/WTB. Just like before, the bazaar remains useless except for exploiting the system.
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post Jul 1 2012, 08:45
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2012-07-01 06:42 -9639
Auto-buy: 189x Crystal of Cunning
2012-07-01 06:41 -5040
Auto-buy: 90x Crystal of Swiftness
2012-07-01 06:41 -3125
Auto-buy: 125x Crystal of Frost
2012-07-01 06:41 -2028
Auto-buy: 78x Crystal of Quintessence
2012-07-01 06:40 -61
Auto-buy: 1x Crystal of Vigor
2012-07-01 06:40 -56
Auto-buy: 1x Crystal of Finesse
2012-07-01 06:40 -50
Auto-buy: 1x Crystal of Knowledge
2012-07-01 06:40 -25
Auto-buy: 1x Crystal of Frost
2012-07-01 06:40 -4284
Auto-buy: 84x Crystal of Cunning
2012-07-01 06:40 -4134
Auto-buy: 159x Crystal of Lightning
2012-07-01 06:40 -5432
Auto-buy: 97x Crystal of Finesse
2012-07-01 06:39 -5917
Auto-buy: 97x Crystal of Vigor
2012-07-01 06:39 -11088
Auto-buy: 198x Crystal of Swiftness
2012-07-01 06:38 -7784
Auto-buy: 139x Crystal of Fortitude

And that is why you set up item bot to buy 5000 of every crystal type.
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post Jul 1 2012, 09:07
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Jun 30 2012, 12:05) *

What economists would say means squat, really. After dozen of years hearing stuff like "free markets regulate themselves" and after several economic crises (from the argentinian bonds to the recent subprime mortgages implosion) no one in his right mind should try to back up his words with this kind of nonsense. Next time think twice about it. And then decide against it anyway.
Just to be absolutely clear: when you're faced with two options that yeld the same result, you don't have a choice at all. That's anything but fair.
The problem is uncontrolled inflation. Not sure what "economists" would say, but that hardly looks like a good thing.
I couldn't care less how many of them are reading the forum or not. Anyone with half a brain can figure out that the price you input is "per item". Actually, 1/4th of a brain should suffice: the original per-item price is listed a few pixels away.

Well, the way it works is a lot like psychology/psychiatry and pretty much all the social studies. It's very hard not to say something just because you believe strongly against/in something, regardless of the obvious truths staring you in the face. For example, they argue for a free market but use a lot of weasel words. Imagine some of these scenarios and compare them:

1) You have people able to instantly sell/trade anything to anybody else with no shipping/handling, no fees/taxes/tariffs, no delay from shipping, no protectionist polices (such as patents), no restrictions 'for your safety' (guns/laser pointers/hentai/whatever), and no retaliation for underselling/cloning. This is technically an almost purely free market and is NOTHING LIKE what most economists mean when they say 'free market'. This market system would entirely depend on non-zero-sum math to even make sense.

2) You have a market where anyone can force you to stop selling/buying by physical force, enforce price-fixing (both biggest buyers/sellers) again with physical force, and so on. This is usually thought of as the black market and sometimes the normal market (on some products - just try and buy a nuke!).

3) You have a market that has strict regulations about price-fixing (who can/cannot and what can/cannot be gouged), patent violations (monopoly protection) versus antitrust laws, limited competition due to barriers to entry, and so on. This is the real world unless you're a government or something like that which plays by different rules.

Yeah, #1 is hilarious in that it's obviously unfeasible. Although it is a lot like the Internet with file sharing. There's tons of other models besides these 3 but they illustrate why I call 'free market' weasel words.

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post Jul 1 2012, 09:16
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Shill bidding isn't effective just when someone is overbidding. It inflates the costs payed by everyone.
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post Jul 1 2012, 10:13
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My bleeding wound procs on monsters but the monsters don't have the bleeding wound icon on them.
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post Jul 1 2012, 10:17
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Obviously "market" for potions is saturated - at least for the time being. Even bought Health Elixirs (reasonably big stock) today out of Bazaar which was simply splendid opportunity. On a release day I was really crossed with IB but at least potions are available in large numbers now. With a few tweaks it will work just fine.

Problem are materials as always, but there are good folks at WTS. I think Tenboro should drop full stock from time to time. To stimulate market and bring the prices down on IB because some stuff is so insanely expensive that it is way out of my (and many others) league. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Jul 1 2012, 10:52
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Sold 1 "Noodly Appendage" (23981C Bot Profit Share!)

I really expected much more with a Current High Bid of 150,000. The system has to be clearer with how much you will get and remove shrill bids to not fool people.
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post Jul 1 2012, 11:07
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The system does not and will not give any promises on how much you'd get, for previously given reasons, so if you want any guarantees, use WTS.
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post Jul 1 2012, 11:38
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(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Got a response from Tenbrony, loving the updates btw, makes the game much more interesting.

On subject, is it possible to at least remove shrill bids?
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post Jul 1 2012, 11:46
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QUOTE(kingwolf @ Jul 1 2012, 12:13) *
My bleeding wound procs on monsters but the monsters don't have the bleeding wound icon on them.

Maybe it just hasn't loaded yet? Also try to refresh the page or reload the browser with cache cleaning.
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post Jul 1 2012, 14:02
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今回のアップデートで若干ゲームバランスが向上したと感じますが、敵のHPが上がってるにも関わらず
物理攻撃が当たりにくくなってイラ付き度は余り変わりません。
命中補正約42%Rapier+PowerLegging(12%)でPhysicalHitChance94.8%となってます。
アップデート前は十中八九の確率で攻撃が当たってましたが、アップデート後は3割程度の確率で攻撃が外れま
す。
敵のHPが低くなって赤くなってるときに、こちらの攻撃が当たらずに殺されるシーンが多くなりました。
前にも書きましたが、命中率を含め、武器の基本ステータスをレベルで上げるように見直しを求めます。
今はレベルに関係なく個体差で良し悪しが決まってて違和感が大きいです。
(レベルで違うのはボーナス補正とヒットダメージだけですよね)

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post Jul 1 2012, 14:38
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Iwbth Fsm's hp.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Jul 1 2012, 15:06
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QUOTE(sarofa @ Jul 1 2012, 19:38) *

Iwbth Fsm's hp.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


Don't worry, you'll get used to it.

Takes me about 450 turns these days.
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post Jul 1 2012, 15:14
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Jul 1 2012, 09:06) *

Don't worry, you'll get used to it.

Takes me about 450 turns these days.

Do you use spirit ward armour or your main armour set
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post Jul 1 2012, 15:40
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QUOTE(Insania @ Jul 1 2012, 20:14) *

Do you use spirit ward armour or your main armour set


Full Power of Slaughter set with Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter and Exquisite Buckler of Battlecaster.

With weaken and silence on him, regen is enough to cover all the damage. And with full slaughter, I deal from 130k-270k for each Vital Strike.

Not to mention the free 25% HP bonus from Merciful Blow, which equates to about 1.6 million HP at my level.
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post Jul 1 2012, 17:29
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Is the bot always active, even when the player is engaged in battle?
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post Jul 1 2012, 17:37
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Jul 1 2012, 05:40) *

Full Power of Slaughter set with Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter and Exquisite Buckler of Battlecaster.

With weaken and silence on him, regen is enough to cover all the damage. And with full slaughter, I deal from 130k-270k for each Vital Strike.

Not to mention the free 25% HP bonus from Merciful Blow, which equates to about 1.6 million HP at my level.

Do you use Imperil on it?
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post Jul 1 2012, 18:26
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QUOTE(Tiap @ Jul 1 2012, 17:29) *

Is the bot always active, even when the player is engaged in battle?

yes
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post Jul 1 2012, 21:45
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Tenb please take difficulty level into account when determining how many PAB's equips get in the next update. IWBTH should guarantee 2 PAB's minimum on equip drops.

got this today
IWBTH clear bonus = Fine Gossamer Shoes of the Heaven-Sent damn, got HV'd again

but got this last week
Normal clear bonus = Exquisite Phase Cap of Fenrir this is what Bob Ross would call a happy accident

i know, i know RNG blah, blah, blah yackety shmackety
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post Jul 1 2012, 22:39
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QUOTE(PSPhreak @ Jul 1 2012, 15:45) *

Tenb please take difficulty level into account when determining how many PAB's equips get in the next update. IWBTH should guarantee 2 PAB's minimum on equip drops.

got this today
IWBTH clear bonus = Fine Gossamer Shoes of the Heaven-Sent damn, got HV'd again

but got this last week
Normal clear bonus = Exquisite Phase Cap of Fenrir this is what Bob Ross would call a happy accident

i know, i know RNG blah, blah, blah yackety shmackety

It's already tied to quality.

You comparing exquisite to fine.
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