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The moogles are getting so filthy rich of the bot, they're only really running MoogleMail as a hobby nowadays.

They've been getting so rich in fact that they've decided to share the bot profits 50:50 with people who sell the items to the item shop. Though there is no UI indication for this, since whether or not something can be sold by the bot can't be calculated client-side, and since that value would be volatile with changing bids and other people selling. You can however see it in the credit log after the fact.

Incentive to troll overbidders. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

Incentive to troll overbidders. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

Yeah, I thought about that. And it basically went like.. well, if they are stupid enough to overbid despite the explicit warning and the obviousness of how stupid it is, then fuck'em.

Yeah, I thought about that. And it basically went like.. well, if they are stupid enough to overbid despite the explicit warning and the obviousness of how stupid it is, then fuck'em.

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1. Well you've said the main point: if lots of people want an item and even willing to pay more than the minimum price, why shouldn't the bazaar (and the sellers now) take this opportunity? Moogles are not charity (though they're now charitable enough to give some of the profits back).
And economists will tell you that 'bidding' is more efficient in resource allocation than 'first come first serve'.

What economists would say means squat, really. After dozen of years hearing stuff like "free markets regulate themselves" and after several economic crises (from the argentinian bonds to the recent subprime mortgages implosion) no one in his right mind should try to back up his words with this kind of nonsense. Next time think twice about it. And then decide against it anyway.

So it's the fair solution; either you pay more, or you buy less.

Just to be absolutely clear: when you're faced with two options that yeld the same result, you don't have a choice at all. That's anything but fair.

2. What's the problem of 30 bots then? If you place your own bid, that will never be a problem for you. If they don't have fund, you can still get what you want. Or you mean you can't see the correct bid? Then maybe Tenb should add 'the last successful bid'.

The problem is uncontrolled inflation. Not sure what "economists" would say, but that hardly looks like a good thing.

3. Yes that's a issue. You can't expect everyone to read the forum.
(In fact, I'm not sure how many of them are reading the forum...)

I couldn't care less how many of them are reading the forum or not. Anyone with half a brain can figure out that the price you input is "per item". Actually, 1/4th of a brain should suffice: the original per-item price is listed a few pixels away.

2012-06-30 18:10 +424
Sold 11 "Crystal of Vigor" (402C Bot Profit Share!)

Lol, time to do some Crysfests (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Am I suppose to get this amount

Date Amount Information
2012-06-30 18:12 +5501
Sold 1 "Repurposed Actuator" (3501C Bot Profit Share!)
I thought when it sold you get 50%.
The highest bid for repurposed actuator was 12000c.
The bot profit share should be 6000c

In other news, I got this from my first IWBTH hourly after the new patch yesterday:

Exquisite ethereal mace of slaughter

Decent Strength and Dexterity, with Agility? Not bad at all. It's not great, but the Agility could really come in handy.

Am I suppose to get this amount

Date Amount Information
2012-06-30 18:12 +5501
Sold 1 "Repurposed Actuator" (3501C Bot Profit Share!)
I thought when it sold you get 50%.
The highest bid for repurposed actuator was 12000c.
The bot profit share should be 6000c

Someone may have sniped the 12000c offer before you got to it, rounding down to the next bid which happened to be 11001c.

The "bot profit share" is the value above what the item would have sold for in the Bazaar so if you had successfully sold it to someone buying for 12k you'd have gotten 4000c bot profit share + 2000c bazaar value for a total of 6000c.

This post has been edited by Bunker Buster: Jun 30 2012, 20:22

Someone may have sniped the 12000c offer before you got to it, rounding down to the next bid which happened to be 11001c.

The "bot profit share" is the value above what the item would have sold for in the Bazaar so if you had successfully sold it to someone buying for 12k you'd have gotten 4000c bot profit share + 2000c bazaar value for a total of 6000c.

Isn't the bot profit share suppose to be 50%. So it if I successfully sold it to someone at 12000c.
I would get 6000c in bot profit share plus 2000.

More like the second highest bid is 7,000c, making the profit share 7,001/2 = 3,501c

This post has been edited by Tiap: Jun 30 2012, 20:29

More like the second highest bid is 7,000c, making the profit share 7,001/2 = 3,501c

The minimum price for repurposed actuator is 10000c. So it not possible for the second highest bid to be 7000c.

Isn't the bot profit share suppose to be 50%. So it if I successfully sold it to someone at 12000c.
I would get 6000c in bot profit share plus 2000.

It doesn't actually work like that. The 2000c is what you'd get regardless if you sold it and there were no offers (base bazaar value). You get a flat 50% of what you sold if someone is buying through the bot.

Honestly, the "bot profit share" amount calculated in your credit log is confusing as it treats the standard bazaar price as part of it when really that's not what's happening. Tenboro should have just noted whether the amount you get was a result of selling to a bot.

More like the second highest bid is 7,000c, making the profit share 7,001/2 = 3,501c

If it were possible to place a bid for one of those at that price, but it isn't.

Am I suppose to get this amount

Date Amount Information
2012-06-30 18:12 +5501
Sold 1 "Repurposed Actuator" (3501C Bot Profit Share!)
I thought when it sold you get 50%.
The highest bid for repurposed actuator was 12000c.
The bot profit share should be 6000c

One possible scenario.
1. The second highest bid is 11k. Halving that will give 5.5k.
2. The base price is then deducted from 5.5k to get the bot profit of 3.5k.

Cool patch. Especially the absorb part.

The minimum price for repurposed actuator is 10000c. So it not possible for the second highest bid to be 7000c.

If the high bid for the actuator was 12k and there were no other bids, the buyer would get it for the minimum price of 10k, and the seller would get half of that, or 5k. But in your case you got +5501, which means the second highest bid was 11002C or so.

Honestly, the "bot profit share" amount calculated in your credit log is confusing as it treats the standard bazaar price as part of it when really that's not what's happening. Tenboro should have just noted whether the amount you get was a result of selling to a bot.

Well, bot share profit is how much you gained compared to if it just went into the item shop stock.

Weaken

On wiki:
"The target is weakened, making its physical attacks deal less damage and preventing them from being critical strikes."

Now:
"The target is weakened, making it take more damage from physical attacks, and preventing it from scoring physical critical hits."

Wow daily encounters are actually doable now and more HP :] (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I like this patch , I took a few days breaks because even arenas were amazingly hard on normal, but all is fine now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

09 You failed to correctly answer the RiddleMaster within the time limit. You lose 10 Stamina.


I couldn't even see the pony to determine its id
the picture was way to transparent
so i just guessed and got it wrong
then this appears

09 You failed to correctly answer the RiddleMaster within the time limit. You lose 10 Stamina.



is ten stamina points lost right? did this change?

and if it didn't how do i get it fixed

This post has been edited by robsmithe: Jul 1 2012, 00:57

is ten stamina points lost right?

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Stamina#RiddleMaster

RiddleMaster

Failing or running out of time on a RiddleMaster puzzle will instantly consume stamina depending on how many times you have failed in a sliding 3 day window.
Failure Stamina Lost
First 1
Second 5
Third 10
Fourth and up 20


i see it thx

not sure this is my third loss but i cant argue with the wiki can i?