[X] My Assistant

Let's talk about how to deal with them in-game instead, if you don't like anyone bitching about them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif).

I heard MagNet is quite useful against 501st (and Eliz and co. of course). What about those who don't have it yet like myself? Is there any alternative strategy?

Thanks in advance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Let's talk about how to deal with them in-game instead, if you don't like anyone bitching about them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif).

I heard MagNet is quite useful against 501st (and Eliz and co. of course). What about those who don't have it yet like myself? Is there any alternative strategy?

Thanks in advance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Either slow or weaken. Weaken should be better IMO because of its low cost.

Either slow or weaken. Weaken should be better IMO because of its low cost.

because all of them can be resisted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by ユカ: Jun 27 2012, 16:49

in a word, my opinion is

because
there are not a effective way to avoid the 3 type of avoidance of mosters
there are only some monsters have high avoidance

so the difficulty of HV is depend by
what monsters you are face to
how many times the mosters avoid you attack/debuff (you said skills can not be avoid? that's melee's business, and I think that is hard to accumulate enough OC)

that's what I am complain, HV is not a poker game.

I hope heartfeltly that next vision can improve those questions, that's all.

Freaking hell, thanks to these monsters, I can't even grind Forbidden prof in peace... on Easy... with Crysfest. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

Of course, I can always blame Cloth Armor for having paper thin defenses, but still, it's goddamn Easy, and I'm having trouble staying alive with Regen alone. Otherwise, I'm more or less used to the monster buff with my Light Melee set... but a small nerf to their buffs certainly wouldn't hurt. XD

This post has been edited by HaliZorat: Jun 27 2012, 22:42

Freaking hell, thanks to these monsters, I can't even grind Forbidden prof in peace... on Easy... with Crysfest. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

Of course, I can always blame Cloth Armor for having paper thin defenses, but still, it's goddamn Easy, and I'm having trouble staying alive with Regen alone.

It isn't so bad on Easy in a Crude IW. At least they don't do double attacks on me and I can raise my Depre. and Staff prof. there. I could even whack them just to get OC and use Focus to gain some magic back. Eila 501st is always the last one remaining in whatever battle I'm in.

1 4 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st evades your spell.
2 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
4 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
6 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st evades your spell.
7 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
9 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.

come on
this is Normal Difficulty?
Is it normal? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

and turn 3, 5 and 8 I spent for cure (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

This post has been edited by ユカ: Jun 28 2012, 02:14

1 4 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st evades your spell.
2 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
4 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
6 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st evades your spell.
7 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
9 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.

come on
this is Normal Difficulty?
Is it normal? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

and turn 3, 5 and 8 I spent for cure (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Yeap. Better get used to it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Or switch to something less of a Russian Roulette. Like melee, for instance.

Or switch to something less of a Russian Roulette. Like melee, for instance.

....So

1 4 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st evades your attack.
2 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st parries your attack.
4 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st parries your attack.
6 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st evades your attack.
7 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st parries your attack.
9 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st parries your attack.

instead?

[img443.imageshack.us] http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/754/28920598.png

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

This round was ugly. Still, it would have been neat if regular Eila was there instead of Ceiling Alligator. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[img443.imageshack.us] http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/754/28920598.png

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

This round was ugly. Still, it would have been neat if regular Eila was there instead of Ceiling Alligator. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Whoa that is quite nasty to face 5 of them. If it was BT or IWBTH, I'd already be dead like Kenshiro says to me. To think that each of them will double attack me to crush my SS and make SoL fail due to insufficient Spirit. What did you download to get a 2nd quickbar and those colors to identify them?

Whoa that is quite nasty to face 5 of them. If it was BT or IWBTH, I'd already be dead like Kenshiro says to me. To think that each of them will double attack me to crush my SS and make SoL fail due to insufficient Spirit. What did you download to get a 2nd quickbar and those colors to identify them?

Quickbar 2 (Chrome only): https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=36383
HV Monster Sensor: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=40909

Quickbar 2 (Chrome only): https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=36383
HV Monster Sensor: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=40909

Thanks. Just what I need anyway. I just hope I don't meet them in a group again. 4 were bad enough for me.

What did you download to get a 2nd quickbar and those colors to identify them?

For future reference:
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Scripts_%26_Tools

Whoa that is quite nasty to face 5 of them. If it was BT or IWBTH, I'd already be dead like Kenshiro says to me. To think that each of them will double attack me to crush my SS and make SoL fail due to insufficient Spirit. What did you download to get a 2nd quickbar and those colors to identify them?

Err. You can use scrolls, you know? Just pop a SV scroll and a haste scroll and suddenly they're not that intimidating anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Err. You can use scrolls, you know? Just pop a SV scroll and a haste scroll and suddenly they're not that intimidating anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I did and they still kill me in 1 round (except double Haste which causes them to attack once per turn instead of double attacks). Problem is that I'm getting short on credits due to spending on training for AP just to fill out SP tanks.

I love how the 501st monster links to wiki's autism page
Which one of you glorious bastards did this?

Schizophrenia could be added to that without much objection.

I just came in here to report the weird nameless one and now it's popcorn time.

1 4 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st evades your spell.
2 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
4 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
6 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st evades your spell.
7 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
9 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.

come on
this is Normal Difficulty?
Is it normal? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

and turn 3, 5 and 8 I spent for cure (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Other shoe drops. Players got their mitigation and accuracy nerfed for exactly this reason. I remember the idea was to go with a percentage to avoid the FF1-style math (meh, 250 accuracy=WTF?!).

The math as it is now, I think:
a,b,c,d,e=Mitigation rating of equipment, M=Overall mitigation
M=1-(1-a)(1-b)(1-c)(1-d)(1-e)
There is no cap on the high end, so in theory if you had 100-mitigation gear, you'd be invincible. This of course is impossible. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Changing the math so that it can go to 150% accuracy before taking into account monster avoidance, and capping it at 95%, for example, would kind of deal with the super-dodging monsters but isn't very likely to be the way it'll ever work. Why do I feel like a DC comicbook fan? *cough*RECON*cough* *CHOKE*REBOOT*crasssssh!*

This post has been edited by lovehcomics: Jun 28 2012, 07:13

Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st just eats my spirit, assuming it doesnt kill me outright with a lucky double crit:(