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Jun 11 2012, 16:44
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Msgr. Radixius
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I disagree.
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Jun 11 2012, 16:46
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Maximum_Joe
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1 post a day is enough to maintain the new EXP bonus (however much it is, still doing tests). So yea, spamming posts is not excusable anymore.
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Jun 11 2012, 17:14
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cathicklesquall
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Jun 11 2012, 10:46) 1 post a day is enough to maintain the new EXP bonus (however much it is, still doing tests). So yea, spamming posts is not excusable anymore.
It wasn't before.
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Jun 12 2012, 00:33
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grumpymal
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QUOTE(BlorgAlmighty @ Jun 11 2012, 05:17) Mongrel as an insult only works when Gilgamesh uses it. : <
Back me up on this, 'mal.
Okay.
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Jun 12 2012, 03:03
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GrazedCat
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The Spamhaus, although useful, was pretty shit. And it's quite obvious from its pre-death girth that some people play HV waay too fucking much.
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Jun 12 2012, 05:57
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youngfolk
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Some of you look like idiots, claiming that there weren't bots. Really?
Post counts jumped by thousands upon thousands in a matter of minutes, repeating the exact same thing, except using multiple accounts. Guess what? It was a bunch of brony hate, expressing disgust that a person that loves ponies runs the site.
It's obvious that it was the exact same group that hacked 4chan & redirected it to their own page because they have a /mlp/ now. They said themselves that they were going to try that shit everywhere, and we have as many bronies here as /mlp/.
Just stating what happened. It was actually pretty insane to check one page, click refresh 10 seconds later, and see another page of entirely the same phrase in each post.
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Jun 12 2012, 06:07
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FourThirteen
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QUOTE(youngfolk @ Jun 11 2012, 23:57) Some of you look like idiots, claiming that there weren't bots. Really?
Post counts jumped by thousands upon thousands in a matter of minutes, repeating the exact same thing, except using multiple accounts. Guess what? It was a bunch of brony hate, expressing disgust that a person that loves ponies runs the site.
It's obvious that it was the exact same group that hacked 4chan & redirected it to their own page because they have a /mlp/ now. They said themselves that they were going to try that shit everywhere, and we have as many bronies here as /mlp/.
Just stating what happened. It was actually pretty insane to check one page, click refresh 10 seconds later, and see another page of entirely the same phrase in each post.
There isn't any evidence for what you're saying, and Tenboro himself did not support the suggestion that the board was closed because of bots, so skepticism is rather healthy right now. I personally never saw any sudden post count jumps, as I'm sure most people didn't. Aside from that, if there were really a group who hacked 4chan, and this is somehow the work of the same group, why wouldn't they just hack again? Or failing that, create some other form of juvenile demonstration? Why would they create a series of bots just to spam a board that was actually created just for the purpose of spamming? What did that accomplish? All that came of it was the closing of Spamhaus, and it's pretty clear that was on its way out the door anyway. That is, unless you think Tenboro is deliberately lying to us to cover up an attack by radical anti-bronies. More likely, I'm betting you jumped to your own conclusion and didn't care to see what the admin had to say on the matter.
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Jun 12 2012, 06:10
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Raaby
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QUOTE(youngfolk @ Jun 11 2012, 23:57) Some of you look like idiots, claiming that there weren't bots. Really?
Post counts jumped by thousands upon thousands in a matter of minutes, repeating the exact same thing, except using multiple accounts. Guess what? It was a bunch of brony hate, expressing disgust that a person that loves ponies runs the site.
It's obvious that it was the exact same group that hacked 4chan & redirected it to their own page because they have a /mlp/ now. They said themselves that they were going to try that shit everywhere, and we have as many bronies here as /mlp/.
Just stating what happened. It was actually pretty insane to check one page, click refresh 10 seconds later, and see another page of entirely the same phrase in each post.
Cool story, bro.
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Jun 12 2012, 06:16
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youngfolk
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QUOTE(FourThirteen @ Jun 12 2012, 06:07) There isn't any evidence for what you're saying, and Tenboro himself did not support the suggestion that the board was closed because of bots, so skepticism is rather healthy right now. I personally never saw any sudden post count jumps, as I'm sure most people didn't.
Aside from that, if there were really a group who hacked 4chan, and this is somehow the work of the same group, why wouldn't they just hack again? Or failing that, create some other form of juvenile demonstration? Why would they create a series of bots just to spam a board that was actually created just for the purpose of spamming? What did that accomplish? All that came of it was the closing of Spamhaus, and it's pretty clear that was on its way out the door anyway.
That is, unless you think Tenboro is deliberately lying to us to cover up an attack by radical anti-bronies. More likely, I'm betting you jumped to your own conclusion and didn't care to see what the admin had to say on the matter.
Sadly, I never thought Spamhaus itself would be closed (even though admittedly it was a cesspit), so I didn't take any screenies, & google's cache is directed to June 4th. I also thought more people checked that forum than apparently they do, so why would I need proof? If you never checked any of those threads during the few hours they were being intensively spammed, how would you see them jump in the first place? I'm pretty sure most people don't look at the post count itself unless something's off, like that day. I was actually wondering that myself. I assumed that they just wouldn't be able to get into the ehentai database, so resorting to writing a simple tool to spam with multiple accounts would be the next best thing. I'm also assuming that all of the downtime ehentai randomly experiences is because of the massive demand people like me have for their donjons, and not anything like a DDoS. The admin never said anything besides it was being spammed, which it was, so why not draw our own conclusion based on the evidence we have? Do you believe everything everybody in life tells you? Who else would spam multiple threads, using multiple accounts, with brony hate, especially only days after another brony hate incident? Just some random dude that comes here?
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Jun 12 2012, 06:18
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Beryl
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QUOTE(youngfolk @ Jun 11 2012, 23:16) Just some random dude that comes here?
Yes. Because there are overlapping groups on the internet.
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Jun 12 2012, 06:21
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youngfolk
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QUOTE(Beryl @ Jun 12 2012, 06:18) Yes.
Because there are overlapping groups on the internet.
Maybe. Then again, I am assuming, and you know how they say you make an ass out of yourself when you do that.
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Jun 12 2012, 06:28
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FourThirteen
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QUOTE(youngfolk @ Jun 12 2012, 00:16) I'm also assuming that all of the downtime ehentai randomly experiences is because of the massive demand people like me have for their donjons, and not anything like a DDoS. I was under the impression they usually have more to do with flaws in site server cluster and provider-wide problems. The @ehentai twitter feed is pretty much full of complaints about routine IT crap. QUOTE(youngfolk @ Jun 12 2012, 00:16) The admin never said anything besides it was being spammed, which it was, so why not draw our own conclusion based on the evidence we have? Do you believe everything everybody in life tells you? I thought there wasn't any evidence. And of course I don't immediately believe everything everybody tells me. That's why I'm questioning you. It's possible you're right, but with no way to prove it, a lot of people aren't going to see it the way you do. Edit: For what it's worth, I don't blindly agree with the staff all the time either. I usually do because they're classy gents. QUOTE(youngfolk @ Jun 12 2012, 00:16) Who else would spam multiple threads, using multiple accounts,
Again: Chinese. This post has been edited by FourThirteen: Jun 12 2012, 06:29
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Jun 12 2012, 06:31
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youngfolk
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QUOTE(FourThirteen @ Jun 12 2012, 06:28) I was under the impression they usually have more to do with flaws in site server cluster and provider-wide problems. The @ehentai twitter feed is pretty much full of complaints about routine IT crap.
I thought there wasn't any evidence. And of course I don't immediately believe everything everybody tells me. That's why I'm questioning you.
It's possible you're right, but with no way to prove it, a lot of people aren't going to see it the way you do.
Edit: For what it's worth, I don't blindly agree with the staff all the time either. I usually do because they're classy gents.
Again: Chinese.
True. It's also true that I see it different from others, because I witnessed it while it was going on myself. I only watched it for about an hour, but I saw what a lot of others didn't. I really wish I had at least took a few caps....ah well, nothing I can do. I'll just have to hope that Google crawlbot luckily was there when it happened, and the cache will soon update to show it exactly as it happened, but I doubt it. The Chinese are a plausible cause for everything. Everything.
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Jun 12 2012, 06:47
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FourThirteen
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If you have any links to stuff related to the 4chan incident, I'd like to see those. I'm not having any luck finding anything, and I'm pretty sure I won't anytime soon; not for lack of their existence, but for the existence of my apathy.
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Jun 12 2012, 06:58
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youngfolk
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[ thehackernews.com] http://thehackernews.com/2012/06/ugnazi-ha...dflare-via.html[ pastebin.com] http://pastebin.com/xyeGH1xqQUOTE As for the bronies, these rainbow, unicorn, free to be you and me tards are despicable. The more there is opposition against them, the more they tried to ram the rainbow down people's throats. We simply decided to fight back, which is a natural tendency for any person.
They later said on one of their other twitter accounts that they were going after bronies on other sites that they resided too. Pretty easy to make the conclusion that a few days after 4chan was redirected because of paedoz & bronies, they would do something similar here. They couldn't redirect this site though, because both the Cloudflare problem has been fixed, and I don't even think ehentai uses cloudflare. Botting and/or DDoSing is the next best thing.
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Jun 12 2012, 07:01
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Raaby
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Man, making bots just to spam up Spamhaus? The fuckers need to learn how to troll.
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Jun 12 2012, 09:02
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FourThirteen
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Bah. What could some tough-talking wannabe hackers do to us that we haven't already done to ourselves?
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Jun 12 2012, 09:27
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elda88
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I didn't realize Spamphaus is dead until I saw this thread. I haven't posted there like for a month or two.
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Jun 12 2012, 09:30
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PeopleDon'tDanceNoMore
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This thread might be informative; that looks like Beryl demonstrating the exact same problem youngfolk is talking about, if you check the post times (although I never saw the "bot" activity). FWIW.
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Jun 12 2012, 10:08
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youngfolk
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Like that, yet using multiple accounts (more than a few) at the same time. Some of them were even carrying on conversations between themselves, with new dialogue relevant to the last in each successive post, yet they were within 2 or 3 seconds of each other.
Is that the exploit someone was mentioning earlier? And is it possible to change that text on the fly, within a few seconds of each other?
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