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May 18 2012, 14:00
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tentacle-man61
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How come monsters can crit with skills, but players can't?
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May 18 2012, 17:11
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ May 18 2012, 03:08)  Interesting, It seemed there was less lag in HV after DIII came out. Thought it was because there were less people playing HV at the time.
Seems there are a lot less people dying too, because I've started getting very few materials the past couple of days.
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May 18 2012, 17:41
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Bunker Buster
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QUOTE(tentacle-man61 @ May 18 2012, 14:00)  How come monsters can crit with skills, but players can't?
Because they're technically spells.
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May 18 2012, 22:19
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Insania
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 18 2012, 08:11)  Seems there are a lot less people dying too, because I've started getting very few materials the past couple of days.
Not in my case, I have been getting more materials then ever(=^•^=)
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May 19 2012, 01:47
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Kaosumx
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QUOTE(Insania @ May 18 2012, 16:19)  Not in my case, I have been getting more materials then ever(=^•^=)
You own Jyu Viole Grace? I own Twenty-Fifth Baam (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) @hito - All I know is that I don't die unless it's on normal difficulty (rare) and I get an agitated crit for max damage (rare) and my health was already low to begin with (rare). So basically it never happens. EDIT - And even when I do die, it's never to any top monster. Since I know they are the most dangerous ones, I finish off any strong dragons and giants with skills at the start of the round, and then kill off the other top monsters next. So its always some other monster that I let come out of stun using a skill to kill me. And the change in spawning certainly hasn't helped, since now its easier to pick out the strongest monsters to kill first, when before, nearly all of the monsters were very strong. This post has been edited by Kaosumx: May 19 2012, 02:24
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May 19 2012, 08:50
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kjeron
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QUOTE(kjeron @ May 11 2012, 15:35)  Bleeding Wound receives the title bonus to damage. Spreading Poison does not. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Correction: The Spreading Poison inflicted by the Poison spell does not receive the Title bonus damage. The currently useless Spreading Poison inflicted by the Backstab skill does receive the Title bonus damage.
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May 19 2012, 09:16
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(tentacle-man61 @ May 18 2012, 14:00)  How come monsters can crit with skills, but players can't? How come monsters can miss with skills, but players can't? Be careful what you ask for.
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May 19 2012, 09:34
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Zoro the Gallade
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Sigh, with so little meat...err, players playing HV, my monsters haven't got a single kill in the last 2 days.
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May 19 2012, 15:35
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Kaosumx
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QUOTE(Zoro the Gallade @ May 19 2012, 03:34)  Sigh, with so little meat...err, players playing HV, my monsters haven't got a single kill in the last 2 days.
QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 17 2012, 04:05)  Hasn't changed much, if anything it's a bit higher than usual.
Though there was a significant spike during the Error 37 period.
Not that I care, I'm too busy playing D3.
Its really just random how many wins you get. I gone as much as a week without a win, to as much as 20 a day with my low PL monsters.
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May 19 2012, 17:16
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 19 2012, 02:16)  How come monsters can miss with skills, but players can't?
Be careful what you ask for.
Now you are just twisting words and insinuating threats. It was a simple question asking for an explanation, not a request to change anything. Does it hurt you that much to give a straight answer? QUOTE(Kaosumx @ May 19 2012, 08:35)  Its really just random how many wins you get. I gone as much as a week without a win, to as much as 20 a day with my low PL monsters.
You are mistaken. I have many PL 400+ monsters and most of the weaker ones have had wins drop considerably thanks the fanatical players jumping over to D3.
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May 19 2012, 17:32
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 19 2012, 17:16)  Does it hurt you that much to give a straight answer? When the answer should be obvious, in that skills don't use the hit/crit/miss/evade/block model? Yes, it really does.
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May 19 2012, 17:43
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ChosenUno
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 19 2012, 22:32)  When the answer should be obvious, in that skills don't use the hit/crit/miss/evade/block model? Yes, it really does.
So monsters' skills are essentially just spells? While ours are a separate entity all together. That's interesting to know, although it probably won't help us much. Btw Tenb, why is it that I used scroll of absorb, but it couldn't absorb any of the mobs' specials? Specifically the school girl's soul specials.
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May 19 2012, 17:47
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rawrpies
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ May 19 2012, 17:43)  Btw Tenb, why is it that I used scroll of absorb, but it couldn't absorb any of the mobs' specials? Specifically the school girl's soul specials.
Because absorbs description states 'The next magical attack against the target has a chance to be absorbed and partially converted to MP.' So if you aren't absorbing spells it's because RNG wants you to die, which is 99% of the time.
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May 19 2012, 17:50
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ChosenUno
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QUOTE(rawrpies @ May 19 2012, 22:47)  Because absorbs description states 'The next magical attack against the target has a chance to be absorbed and partially converted to MP.' So if you aren't absorbing spells it's because RNG wants you to die, which is 99% of the time.
Scroll version is 100% chance (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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May 19 2012, 18:04
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 19 2012, 10:32)  skills don't use the hit/crit/miss/evade/block model FTFY QUOTE(ChosenUno @ May 19 2012, 10:50)  Scroll version is 100% chance (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) I doubt scroll absorbs crits, and it definitely won't absorb physical skills. Double check that it's not either of those. This post has been edited by hitokiri84: May 19 2012, 18:09
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May 19 2012, 18:17
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varst
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ May 19 2012, 23:43)  So monsters' skills are essentially just spells? While ours are a separate entity all together.
That's interesting to know, although it probably won't help us much.
Btw Tenb, why is it that I used scroll of absorb, but it couldn't absorb any of the mobs' specials? Specifically the school girl's soul specials.
You mixed up sklls/Spirit Attack with physical/magical attack. They have no obvious relation. The only way you can distinguish them is to notice if monsters 'use' them or 'cast' them. If they 'cast' them, then it's magical attack and can be absorbed, provided other conditions.
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May 19 2012, 18:29
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buktore
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All conditions must be met for Absorb to work:
- The attack is magical (i.e. 'casts') - The attack actually 'connected' i.e. not missed/evaded/blocked/resisted - Not a critical hit. - Pass the random check (75% for spell at lv5, 100% for scroll)
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May 19 2012, 21:01
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Bunker Buster
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 19 2012, 17:32)  When the answer should be obvious, in that skills don't use the hit/crit/miss/evade/block model? Yes, it really does.
My answer was good enough as is.
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May 19 2012, 21:16
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Zoro the Gallade
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So, are monster attack considered "Spells" when they cause any damage that isn't Crushing, Piercing or Slashing?
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May 19 2012, 21:19
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(Zoro the Gallade @ May 19 2012, 11:16)  So, are monster attack considered "Spells" when they cause any damage that isn't Crushing, Piercing or Slashing?
Nope.
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