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This post has been edited by hc br: Jan 16 2016, 21:21

Will I violate the rules if I run multiple reloader?

Someone recommend me run 3 reloaders at the same time.

I got godlike fast speed (over 3 truns a second)
However I fear this is will make me banned for 1000 years

This post has been edited by fatemoe: Jan 19 2016, 04:48

Will I violate the rules if I run multiple reloader?

Someone recommend me run 3 reloaders at the same time.

I got godlike fast speed (over 3 truns a second)
However I fear this is will make me banned for 1000 years

I've read so much about this reloader thing everywhere
... and finally searched it to learn what it's about. ajax integration on Hentaiverse to reduce client load.

Running 3 reloaders does not make any sense; more=faster shouldn't apply as they seem to use the same core mechanics.
Using one should be even faster.

This post has been edited by FabulousCupcake: Jan 19 2016, 13:17

I've read so much about this reloader thing everywhere
... and finally searched it to learn what it's about. ajax integration on Hentaiverse to reduce client load.

Running 3 reloaders does not make any sense; more=faster shouldn't apply as they seem to use the same core mechanics.
Using one should be even faster.

It's not true to the end. AJAX does nothing with ping.
Without AJAX it's send action-->[waiting ping]-->[server processing]-->[server sends full page]-->[waiting ping]-->full page reload with response from server.
With AJAX it's send action-->[waiting ping]-->[server processing]-->[server sends full page]-->[waiting ping]-->reload only needed elements on page.
So, t/s increase because your browser doesnt have to render entire page.
If I understand correctly fatemoe run 3 reloaders so he sends the same action 3 times not waiting for server response. For example if he sends [attack monster no 1]x3 he will attack it 3 times and then do "reload only needed elements on page". These attacks will happen even if monster is dead after the first one... Quite ineffective I would say. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

If I understand correctly fatemoe run 3 reloaders so he sends the same action 3 times not waiting for server response. For example if he sends [attack monster no 1]x3 he will attack it 3 times and then do "reload only needed elements on page". These attacks will happen even if monster is dead after the first one... Quite ineffective I would say. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

At the moment there are 3 versions of the reloader:
The original reloader, Dan13's reloader, and a beta version of that.

I am assuming fatamoe is using all 3 of that; I don't believe using all 3 will be faster than only the fastest one of the three.

So, t/s increase because your browser doesnt have to render entire page.

Yes, this is how the reloader works to make things faster; by not re-rendering the entire page.

It's not true to the end. AJAX does nothing with ping.

I... didn't mention anything about latency...?

I... didn't mention anything about latency...?

Yes, but that's why running 3 at the same time can be faster than using 1. Usually when you have ping, let's say, 1000, you can make 1 turn every second. But using 3 reloaders, you send 3 actions instead of 1, so you can reach up to 3 t/s.

I'm using Dan's version.

You just use the same script with different name and activate at the same time.

1 reloader: around 1.8 turns per second.
3 reloader: more than 3 turns per second.

The drawback is that you will consume 3X mana of buff lol.
Because when you cast protection, the script will send 3 commands.

Then you cast 3 times in a row.


Anyway, it seems like triple reloader won't get me banned?

The drawback is that you will consume 3X mana of buff lol.
Because when you cast protection, the script will send 3 commands.

Then you cast 3 times in a row.
Anyway, it seems like triple reloader won't get me banned?

One command (key press, mouse hover etc) = one action, that is the limit.

Forbidden Actions

Point.png Any script/tool used to do ANY of the following is strictly forbidden. Offenders will be banned from the HentaiVerse.

Any automation or semi-automation of gameplay beyond a single "action".

For similar reasons, we can't Imperil all monsters at once, since that's multiple actions. So multiple reloaders (one command -> multiple actions) sounds like it would violate that principle as well.

One command (key press, mouse hover etc) = one action, that is the limit.
For similar reasons, we can't Imperil all monsters at once, since that's multiple actions. So multiple reloaders (one command -> multiple actions) sounds like it would violate that principle as well.

Ok

Then I'll just use 1.

Managed to whip up something, dunno if it looks the part though...



Only this page has been finished, as it took me a lot of time to do just that (it's not even complete), a full version is highly unlikely... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

WOW! THAT LOOKS BAD ASS!!!!

Sorry, guys, but what you think about this thread?
Pretty gigantic and complex, don't you think?
Should it be a little redacted and posted in main forum?

Sorry, guys, but what you think about this thread?
Pretty gigantic and complex, don't you think?
Should it be a little redacted and posted in main forum?

If you are making a post for scripts I like it gigantic and complex, leave the simplified version in wiki.
Maybe call it scripts compendium?

Maybe call it scripts compendium?

Ohh! I like that name. What you think about "Scriptopedium", variant? Or scriptogeddon? Nahh, forget about it >_>

Ohh! I like that name. What you think about "Scriptopedium", variant? Or scriptogeddon? Nahh, forget about it >_>

Well and the thing is every time someone post a new script you have to update your post. Thats pretty hard to say the least.

Sorry, guys, but what you think about this thread?
Pretty gigantic and complex, don't you think?
Should it be a little redacted and posted in main forum?

All script links go to some mediafire page instead of to the creator's forum attachment link or their forum post. I suspect that will be very off-putting to many who naturally distrust such things. Even though I know JS and could look for problems, I wouldn't bother downloading from a 3rd-party site and examining it if the original exists on E-H.

I still think the wiki is a much better format, since it's more condensed and much easier to browse than anything that could be typed on the forum, because the forum doesn't support tables/html.

Well and the thing is every time someone post a new script you have to update your post. Thats pretty hard to say the least.

Six year in moderation of different forums. I like stuff like this: creating manuals, instructions, database, perfectionism thing... So, it is not big problem for me.

All script links go to some mediafire page

I have mediafire cloud soft and for me, for files hosting - mediafire is better solution: no captcha, no premium accounts, no "wait xillion years before you can download file", and special thing for JS files: in-build redactor, so anyone can look through the code without downloading it, to be sure whats wrong with it or do it have "viral" content. I know, this is holywar about which filehost is best, but five years ago I stand with that one and its OK for me.

instead of to the creator's forum attachment link or their forum post.

Hey, it will be in next updates. =)
Because it is very hard to explain all details about some scripts (item manager, income summary e.t.c) - I will post link on specific thread (if it is exist). To be fair, - I guess every author should create dedicated thread for their script, but my democraty is nothing and everyone do as they want.
For now I just want to ask what you thing about thread like I create. So, links to thread will be, definitely.

About the attachment... Well... You know... I have a very bad experience, about attachments...
Few years ago I moderate one forum dedicate to game killing floor . And here, I manage to create subfoum for "mutators" (game based on Unreal Engine 2 and mutators is like somekind of a little customizations, like new weapons, monsters, modes e.t.c.). I posted all this mutators in attachments, and do this for around year and got, maybe, 300 of them. One day admin turned from one forum engine to another and all my attachments was been corrupted! Instead of files like: "Скачать "MP40a SILENCED", I have like this: "Invalid attachement 4432210."
Thys all my attachments were corrupted and I will forced to reupload them as a links on my filehost account. For insurance purpose... So, that's why I hate attachments at all. Look at this thread from the beginning and you will find that some attachments DO not have files, or corrupted, or deleted, or what-ever-happened for them...

And I hate to send people to download files in different threads. It looks like "hey, you want to download one script? Look AT THIS thread, post number 1404" and when someone moved on this link he find message like this: "here was old version, now move HERE for new one" e.t.c. You got the point...

And other thing is, people has a tendency create some thing and do not archive it for future. I have look through the this forum and find some rare builds, version and scripts itself noone hear about and nobody do something to collect them all (aha, like pokemons >_>) and manage to turn into big museum somekind of.

And there is big chance that we will sent people to download script from some custom attachment, but author just will someday moves angry (someone flame on him or ban?) and he will deleted his attachment with script in revenge-fashion. This is Internet, people around like this, and my experience show that this cases not so rare.

I suspect that will be very off-putting to many who naturally distrust such things.

Here I totally agree with you... But on the other hand we just collect scripts and create "scripts compendium" for history, developers and lurkers. We do not force people to use only this one thread to download scripts - they will have option to use alternative ways (so does author have option to distribute their script as they want...)

because the forum doesn't support tables/html.

And this really offend me... I able to make better layout, if this options do exist..

wiki is a much better format

I got your point. Wiki is really good for some kind of information, but for my project, as I stated before, I think it is not comfortably...

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Bytheway, I look in my folder on PC with scripts. There are 38 more (do not count different versions of some) to post. So, this thread will be even bigger. And for 90% of them I do not have any idea what they do, because there are no "description" or "include" or "match" tags... Why developers do not include information like this? *gabble ramble gabble ramble*...


This post has been edited by f4tal: Jan 21 2016, 22:16

I have mediafire cloud soft and for me, for files hosting - mediafire is better solution: no captcha, no premium accounts, no "wait xillion years before you can download file", and special thing for JS files: in-build redactor, so anyone can look through the code without downloading it, to be sure whats wrong with it or do it have "viral" content. I know, this is holywar about which filehost is best, but five years ago I stand with that one and its OK for me.

Most (mindful) internet users do not immediately trust the others, especially regarding scripts, which has the potential to do malicious things if you were to install one.
You are uploading the scripts in a third party site without any features to indicate any malicious tampering of the scripts. If someone is able to gain access to your forum or mediafire account, it can be done pretty easily. And hey, I might be able to net millions credits if I can do that. And perhaps blame it on you.

I wouldn't risk my account on something like that. I'd rather download the attachment uploaded directly by the author in the forums.
I can check the script before installing them, but ain't nobody got time for that.

Something like github or any other public repository, or EH Wiki would work better, since all edits are logged, and any malicious tampering can be traced easily. (though, in repositories, you can just remove or overwrite the commit history if you are really serious) EH Wiki though, is administered and can be edited by everyone, and therefore should be safer.

something something corrupt something

That forum you were in probably had a shit admin. I've never found any corrupted attachment here in EH.

And I hate to send people to download files in different threads. It looks like "hey, you want to download one script? Look AT THIS thread, post number 1404" and when someone moved on this link he find message like this: "here was old version, now move HERE for new one" e.t.c. You got the point...

I agree; it took a bit effort for me to find the scripts I need, which could be eliminated if someone compiled and kept updating a script list.
Then again, I still can't agree with forum topic over the wiki page.
Good luck with the forum topic though. Someone would probably pick those fresh information in your topic and adapt it into the wiki page.

This post has been edited by FabulousCupcake: Jan 22 2016, 06:15

I wouldn't risk my account on something like that. I'd rather download the attachment uploaded directly by the author in the forums.
I can check the script before installing them, but ain't nobody got time for that.

Yep. In fact, I think I'll expressly disclaim ownership of anything uploaded on a different site. Sure, I could go through a few thousand lines of code one-by-one and make sure everything's OK, but I'm not going to do that.

And if I, a script author who understands JS and my own code, isn't going to do that, you should bet that an average user definitely isn't going to.

This is too easily exploited. It's not even in the "not desirable" category, I think it's in the "should be prohibited" category. Linking people to some sort of javascript on random file upload site, and encouraging them to install it and trust that it does what you claim it does and nothing else? The sort of people who would willingly download it are the sort of people who shouldn't be downloading anything. That's an admin's nightmare.

A scripts subforum where each script has its own thread would be nice lol
Though I think it's a bit late for that. lol

I've never found any corrupted attachment here in EH.

THIS one for example. Thats what I mean by saying "corrupted".

If someone is able to gain access to your forum or mediafire account, it can be done pretty easily.

This is. But anyone could hack by bank account or steal the car in real life. This is question about elementary security, I guess... (and a little luck).
But to be fair, for the more than 8 years. Nobody steal any my account in any site. Maybe i am lucky one?

Good luck with the forum topic though. Someone would probably pick those fresh information in your topic and adapt it into the wiki page.

Yeah, That would be nice. ^^

Linking people to some sort of javascript on random file upload site, and encouraging them to install it and trust that it does what you claim it does and nothing else?

In my offend I can stand on that any author who post his own script on forums.e-hentai.org, CAN do some "viral" tricks, and what's chance that everyone before installing this script will do check every line, especially average user? Even more, we can have sort of "reputation effect" - someone with more 5000 message on forum with good reputation post a new script with viral content. Not many people would even think that he will put negative content in his script, because his authority... And here I can tell you about WIN and APPLE techonlogys where only god known what exactly they collect about you, and who use this information.
So, every problem is going to solve after magically "as is"-distribution paradigm.

But, yes, security and trust is big question around here. The only thing I can provide you is my fair word (as in court with witnesses) and anyone can download any script from my thread to see what exactly it does and how does it work... I do not modify any file (mediafire do not, too), - the only thing I do is collecting scripts and posted in one thread. Thats it.

I got you pessimistic and untrust, and do not really see any point to reverse your attitude.

Though I think it's a bit late for that. lol

It is definitely is. =)
I do think it would be nice idea if every authors of the script created personal thread for their creations, but, - it is all about personal choice and to force anyone to do it is impossibly.

P.S. bytheway, there are more than 600 downloads of the scripts on this week...