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Apr 3 2012, 22:42
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skillchip
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 5,753
Joined: 31-December 06

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QUOTE(qqaaqq @ Apr 3 2012, 19:23)  3. if u hate it just quit... why torture yourself with doing something you hate masochist much? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) The Hentaiverse is all about being a masochist
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Apr 3 2012, 22:53
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Evil Scorpio
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 6,565
Joined: 9-May 10

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God damn it, I've missed all the fun again... :<
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Apr 3 2012, 22:56
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(mr daniels @ Apr 3 2012, 22:19)  tenboro will equipment upgraded before this patch get leveled up as well If something wasn't made retroactive when the patch landed, and nothing was said about it being retroactive, then you can probably assume that it won't be retroactive. And furthermore, that no amount of nagging will make it retroactive. Retroactively.
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Apr 3 2012, 22:58
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Evil Scorpio
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 6,565
Joined: 9-May 10

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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Apr 4 2012, 00:56)  If something wasn't made retroactive when the patch landed, and nothing was said about it being retroactive, then you can probably assume that it won't be retroactive. And furthermore, that no amount of nagging will make it retroactive. Retroactively.
Well that's...really sad. I've dumped so much upgrades on my stuff becfore the patch. Oh well... :<
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Apr 3 2012, 23:16
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Bunker Buster
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,220
Joined: 11-June 10

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If it's something that would have benefitted you more before you did something, Tenboro's probably going to put it in.
Ask Frith about that!
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Apr 3 2012, 23:22
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skillchip
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 5,753
Joined: 31-December 06

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QUOTE(Bunker Buster @ Apr 3 2012, 21:16)  If it's something that would have benefitted you more before you did something, Tenboro's probably going to put it in.
Ask Frith about that!
Thought we weren't saying his name
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Apr 3 2012, 23:43
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Hoheneim
Group: Members
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Joined: 4-January 09

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QUOTE(skillchip @ Apr 3 2012, 23:22)  Thought we weren't saying his name
Damnatio memoriae?
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Apr 3 2012, 23:49
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grumpymal
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 10,923
Joined: 2-April 08

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QUOTE(aeridus @ Apr 3 2012, 08:28)  Rarity: Straight normal hair, her diamond cutie mark is usually visible, also her facial expression makes you want to punch her
(IMG:[ images.mylittlefacewhen.com] http://images.mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/img/mlfw1330_132043116988.png) PUNCH HER. RIGHT IN HER DUCKFACE. DO IT. QUOTE(Radkat @ Apr 3 2012, 15:16)  For those bronies who don't know what all the fuss is about, picture this. Let's say one day 10-bro converts to Buddhism, and makes a puzzle where you have to match different Buddha statues with their names, Buddha chart provided of course. For many people, it will be a case of WTF why do I need to memorise your stupid Buddha statues I have no interest in your religion they all look like fat people sitting or lying down I can't tell the difference without some scrutinising....
Get the picture now?
Not really. I'm not a moron, so I can take five minutes and memorize them. QUOTE(el h @ Apr 3 2012, 15:50)  You should have edited the answers, too. Then it would have been perfect. QUOTE(Tenboro @ Apr 3 2012, 15:58)  Lewl. Maybe you can do something with this later: (IMG:[ i1212.photobucket.com] http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc458/chevaliermalfet/ehstuff/sleepiepie.gif)
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Apr 4 2012, 00:38
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Raidy
Group: Members
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Joined: 8-July 08

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this is like the first post patch bitch-fest that hasn't been about mages vs melees (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Apr 4 2012, 00:52
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Black Dynamite
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 14-October 09

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QUOTE(Raidy @ Apr 3 2012, 18:38)  this is like the first post patch bitch-fest that hasn't been about mages vs melees (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) now it is about brony vs non brony
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Apr 4 2012, 01:09
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Bunker Buster
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,220
Joined: 11-June 10

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I'm a non-brony and I don't mind the captcha at all.
Bunch of babies, the whiners.
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Apr 4 2012, 01:15
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Msgr. Radixius
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 30,859
Joined: 15-May 06

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Right?
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Apr 4 2012, 01:15
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Kaosumx
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 20-February 12

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QUOTE(Raidy @ Apr 3 2012, 18:38)  this is like the first post patch bitch-fest that hasn't been about mages vs melees (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) Oh don't worry I really want to bitch about light armor sucking even more now. I'm just choosing not to whine about it. Instead, I use a little thread called "[Suggestion] A few requests".
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Apr 4 2012, 01:31
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Raaby
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 14,187
Joined: 16-February 09

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QUOTE(derpymal @ Apr 3 2012, 17:49)  (IMG:[ images.mylittlefacewhen.com] http://images.mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/img/mlfw1330_132043116988.png) PUNCH HER. RIGHT IN HER DUCKFACE. DO IT. Rarity puts Facebook camwhores to shame with her ability to pull off the duckface and look cute. QUOTE 'mal, you post the best pony images. QUOTE(Bunker Buster @ Apr 3 2012, 19:09)  I'm a non-brony and I don't mind the captcha at all.
Bunch of babies, the whiners.
You're a good EGG there, sir.
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Apr 4 2012, 01:31
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Bunker Buster
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 11-June 10

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QUOTE(Kaosumx @ Apr 4 2012, 01:15)  Oh don't worry I really want to bitch about light armor sucking even more now. I'm just choosing not to whine about it. Instead, I use a little thread called "[Suggestion] A few requests".
i'm sorry my Arcanist set says otherwise This post has been edited by Bunker Buster: Apr 4 2012, 01:32
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Apr 4 2012, 02:35
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Kaosumx
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Bunker Buster @ Apr 3 2012, 19:31)  i'm sorry my Arcanist set says otherwise
I have an arcanist set too. And a partial fleet/shadowdancer set. And guess what? The mitigation is BARELY better than my phase set which I put together with 60k credits while selecting peices based on EDB. And you know what my phase set has? It lets me one shot rounds, has less interference and because I'm not using an ethereal weapon, it also gives me more evade.
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Apr 4 2012, 02:49
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hzqr
Group: Gold Star Club
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Going by max values alone, a Shade set can give you more than twice the mitigation and around 30% more Evade than a Phase set (according to the wiki, anyway).
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Apr 4 2012, 03:07
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Mr. Plow
Group: Gold Star Club
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I don't think Shade has been nerfed here. Maybe Kevlar, but if your shade set was chosen to have high absorption (or even mitigation to a lesser extent) I believe you're doing it wrong.
You don't pick Shade to take a bunch of hits, you pick it to avoid them.
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Apr 4 2012, 03:58
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Kaosumx
Group: Gold Star Club
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I didn't pick for absorption or mitigation. The values were merely decent. Also, diminishing returns means that you wouldn't get twice the mitigation with shade, or even kevlar. And even with my minimum burden exquisite mace, its evade is slightly lower than my phase set. It would be better if my mace was ethereal though (but I'm not really ready to dump everything on a good ethereal mace at my level), but only by about 15 percent.
The real point is that thanks to the removal of absorption and the introduction of featherweight shards, light armor loses the little "advantages" it had. Burden was already pitifully ineffective since it only reduced evade, which itself is rather unreliable and thanks to the pitifully low bases, you can't stack it enough to be a ninja (and now we have people getting NEGATIVE burden thanks to heavy armor proficiency and featherweights so they can get the same evade). The interference of all non-arcanist peices are still pretty high (heck its higher than kevlar), enough that it doesn't have a real advantage over heavy. Even arcanist peices still have enough interference that my arcanist set only offers 7 percent less mana cost than my kevlar set. Power armor does more damage than shade anyways, and a little bit more agility from shade doesn't make you fast enough to offset that (there's the shade "nerf").
Mages can't take hits anyways, so the removal of absorption just meant they could blast through rounds faster while light armor doesn't do as much damage as heavy, has to rely more on the unreliable evade (which isn't significantly better than phase evade or featherweight shards on heavy armor).
TLDR - I want ninja light armor! Buff evade, remove interference (at least from arcanist, lower for the rest). Calculate action speed differently so that light armor actually has a significant speed advantage. That'll be a start.
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Apr 4 2012, 04:29
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Bunker Buster
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,220
Joined: 11-June 10

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I wager that absorption was removed mostly because enemies level 100+ did hits of upwards of 2k+ and absorption was calculated *before* mitigation which made it far less important in comparison to mitigation. That, and Tenboro probably didn't want to actually take the time to scale it properly at high levels.
You can have ludicrously high resist % (upwards of 38% bonus) from arcanist gear, and the evade on shade by default is passable. It's meant to be a "not get hit entirely" armor as opposed to just straight up taking hits as heavy armor or the "burn everything before it causes serious damage" cloth armor.
However, damage avoidance kind of fails before you get spirit shield since there's no cap at how much damage you can take, so heavy armor is better for you in that regard.
Kevlar armor kind of blows at the moment. The physical damage (crush/slash/pierce) mitigations should be buffed to plate armor levels. As it stands, leather of protection is better due to having about the same protection on top of having a high resist value.
When you get spirit shield, your damage taken will go WAY down. If you don't want to invest in plate/shield armor of protection/turtle I say plug at the lower difficulties until you get there.
This post has been edited by Bunker Buster: Apr 4 2012, 04:38
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