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Feb 16 2012, 00:41
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Beryl
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The mention of any other sites with a similar gallery structure by manipulating names around wordfilters will result in a temporary ban from this post on.
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Feb 16 2012, 00:52
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Super Shanko
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QUOTE(Beryl @ Feb 15 2012, 16:41)  The mention of any other sites with a similar gallery structure by manipulating names around wordfilters will result in a temporary ban from this post on.
And by ban, that probably means the actual person will be taken away by those cloaked guys from Ghost. This post has been edited by Super Shanko: Feb 16 2012, 08:54
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Feb 16 2012, 01:05
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Erranty
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I'm sorry, this just doesn't seem quite like the right course of action.
Asian Porn I can understand, but a lot of really good Ecchi is placed in the Non-H category, like Ryuuta Amazume (still waiting on the complete translation of Toshiue no Hito).
I'd say the bigger problem is all the Image Sets filled with duplicates, or pictures that're in a thousand other galleries! Most of them can easily be searched for through Sankaku, which lets people filter them out based on tags like by artist, series, or content. You upload images individually, duplicates are either replaced or deleted.
The only reason people keep making these Image Sets is for quick GP.
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Feb 16 2012, 01:06
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Beryl
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QUOTE(Erranty @ Feb 15 2012, 19:05)  I'm sorry, this just doesn't seem quite like the right course of action.
Asian Porn I can understand, but a lot of really good Ecchi is placed in the Non-H category, like Ryuuta Amazume (still waiting on the complete translation of Toshiue no Hito).
Read the rest of the thread.
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Feb 16 2012, 01:06
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QuakeWorld
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QUOTE(tentacle-man61 @ Feb 15 2012, 14:24)  Because there is a lot of good art that fits in the Western Art category, even though there is also a lot of crappy art. It's the same with Japanese art.
I second that. Even though the good/bad ratio is pretty low for western art, some of the best naughty art works ever made did not came from the land of the rising sun.
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Feb 16 2012, 01:08
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Anime Janai
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If you put artbooks in the MISC category, people will soon start labeling them as "NON-H" soon enough.
A number of weeks from now after the great purge occurs, will the "NON-H" tag be treated by the automated system similarly to the loli/shota tags? That is, if a work gets labeled as "non-h", it attracts attention and when it gets to 100, it becomes expunge material (since it won't move to the sad panda server).
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Feb 16 2012, 01:09
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werty101
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QUOTE(Dynellen @ Feb 15 2012, 15:23)  Please don't completely ban 'non-h' from the site. Yes get rid of normal manga that gets uploaded to every online reader there is but I beg of you to still allow uploading of non-h doujins to the site. This is pretty much the only site where you can actually find translated non-h doujins/manga that are often absolutely brilliant works but will never be uploaded on normal manga readers.
Tons of great fate stay night/touhou/madoka etc etc doujins can be found here and pretty much nowhere else, especially when translators suddenly vanish and links die leaving ehentai as the only reliable site left. Also tons of ecchi/borderline manga/doujins are not uploaded outside of Ehentai but by your definition of not allowing non-h material they woul no longer be allowed here.
THIS. Pretty much this. If you delete the whole Non-H category and all of its content a lot of great stuff will be lost forever.
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Feb 16 2012, 01:25
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Anime Janai
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If we list one gallery entry per post in a vigilante thread, there is going to be a lot of duplicates because of the sheer number of posts that each person has to read through and remember the names before deciding whether or not to post.
The tag system keeps track, so couldn't there be an alternate system such as having users go through the NON-H material and tag it as "PROHIBITED CONTENT" instead? To reduce trolling tagging or false tagging, the value would need to reach 100 before it would be statused as prohibited content. Then those tagged items could be mass nuked according to the rule:
Iff prohibited_content.and.non-h then delete
Users wishing to review prohibited content candidates could search against both tags of prohibited_content and non-h. On the final ten days, perhaps a vigilante thread could appear and automation would post a single message for each gallery item that met tagging requirements for deletion (non-h, prohibited_content value >= 100). Along with the URL would be the first thumbnail image for the gallery and a list of the other tags used. The list of other tags used gives a nice summary as to the contents of the gallery.
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Feb 16 2012, 01:32
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QUOTE(Anime Janai @ Feb 16 2012, 00:25)  If we list one gallery entry per post in a vigilante thread, there is going to be a lot of duplicates because of the sheer number of posts that each person has to read through and remember the names before deciding whether or not to post.
One gallery entry per LINE, not post. You can check it here: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=58973
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Feb 16 2012, 01:37
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Red of EHCOVE
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 15 2012, 16:31)  Because Non-H appears to contain a not insignificant fraction of commercially active releases, despite people being explicitly told not to post that, and this is causing problems.
If and only if this content could be purged, especially all the licensed stuff, then it might be feasible to keep it. Otherwise, it doesn't leave me with much choice.
Ten, I belong with the crowd which wants to keep non-h, a non-insignificant group numbering vigi and cove regulars. We would be loosing lot of good stuff; heck, just yesterday I uploaded a new EHCOVE non-h release here which is a good example of a very ecchi but still non-h gallery that fits our core theme very well (hentai does not have to be hardcore all the time). But I am glad you are open to a solution, it's not like there is any value to using this side to store regular chapters of naruto or bleach crap. MJ has started a thread in the vigi here; all those who care about saving non-h, please join us there. But Ten, could you post a more clear guideline as to what you want to see gone? Commercial is not very precise, 99% of stuff in manga are commercial, but you are not saying those are the problem. You said in the op to kill "commercial manga"... that's confusing, as commercial manga, per our definition (h-heavy manga published in Japan), is in the manga category, not non-h (which is for h-light manga and dojins published in Japan). Are we talking about getting rid of scans of western-published manga, like Naruto or Bleach (manga chapters, not dojins, presumably)? Scanlations of it? What about RAWs, and what about stuff that has not been licensed? I really hope that we can keep non-licensed ecchi stuff like Ibitsu, which is in fact one of my new long-term translation projects in the Cove/EHT. I am assuming that majority of any complains we get are from US/UK based publishers anyway, so non-licensed should not be an issue? Btw, as some others have suggested, how about just shifting all non-h to fjords for a quick and dirty solution, purge of commercial crap nonwithsanding? Frankly, send all misc and asian porn there, too. If n00bs don't see it, they won't complain about it, and even think to upload it. Finally: as long as we are changing stuff, can we pretty please get official categories for artbooks and 3d? Pretty pretty please? QUOTE(imnotamused @ Feb 15 2012, 17:24)  Why not make users tag as "commercial" and get rid of them if tagged properly? it'd be more natural and easier over time.
Sounds like a good tag to add to the expunge list, like replaced or already uploaded. Although we could just stick with prohibited content one. This post has been edited by Red_Piotrus: Feb 16 2012, 02:08
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Feb 16 2012, 03:02
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Bastille
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So, from what I've read, a good chunk of the content contained in the Non-H category could be re-uploaded just fine. In my mind, I foresee that for several days following the timer wiping things out, there will be a massive wave of galleries being re-uploaded by other users into the Misc category. Is this desired or would pursuing the alternative method already mention in the thread (Turning to the users to try tagging undesired Non-H galleries) be better, given what is likely an inevitability?
This post has been edited by Bastille: Feb 16 2012, 03:03
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Feb 16 2012, 03:44
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DarkSpooky
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Hmm, this is big news, certainly. Can't say that I'm sorry to see the Asian Porn category gone. Never quite saw the point of it being here (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) . I do have mixed feelings about the non-H stuff though. Sure, there are lots of it that I've always felt doens't quite fit in here, but at the same time there's stuff I feel do fit in fine enough with the stuff here (some seinen manga, for example), so... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Feb 16 2012, 03:47
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57welder
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I would like you to cancel my membership for E-hentai. I signed up because there is an amazing collection of asian women and without that, There is nothing else here that I really enjoy.
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Feb 16 2012, 03:49
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kryori
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All I have to say is YAAAAAAAY!
Less stuff to pollute my searches = win.
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Feb 16 2012, 03:51
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DarkSpooky
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QUOTE(kryori @ Feb 16 2012, 02:49)  All I have to say is YAAAAAAAY!
Less stuff to pollute my searches = win.
To be fair, it's a fairly simple matter to exclude non-h + asian porn from your searches though (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) This post has been edited by DarkSpooky: Feb 16 2012, 03:51
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Feb 16 2012, 04:04
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Red of EHCOVE
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reports from the vigi front line about continuing confusion while we are expunging (have already expunged?) all (few) galleries containing manga licensed in the west, we are not sure what to do about the raws, in particular, raws not licensed in the west this got expunged, even through it is not licensed in the westa regular suggested this should be reclassed to misc, I am not even sure why. [ en.wikipedia.org] The series'! manga has not been licensed outside Japan. Ten, we really need a clarification here. Is there some heat coming from the Japanese publisher(s), meaning we need to kill non-h manga (but not h manga)?? Or is it a complain from a US/UK company holding some licenses? If the latter, we have, I believe, already expunged all that was here, and that wasn't much. This post has been edited by Red_Piotrus: Feb 16 2012, 04:05
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Feb 16 2012, 05:09
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Feb 16 2012, 06:10
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and what would the benefits of all this bullshit? increased gp gain? less hath cost? while i never gave a fuck about asian porn and non hentai, you are mistaken if you believe the amount of people who enjoyed those is "insignificant".
or is this like microsoft, where they took down original live over the "fact" that it was the reason we only had 100 friend limit, among other things. its been 2 years, and i still only have 100, and none of the shit MS promised.
you must give something for taking something. its the fair thing to do.
This post has been edited by ---M---: Feb 16 2012, 06:11
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Feb 16 2012, 06:38
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(---M--- @ Feb 15 2012, 20:10)  you are mistaken if you believe the amount of people who enjoyed those is "insignificant"
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and wager that the admin of the site knows the stats and you do not. QUOTE you must give something for taking something. its the fair thing to do. Remind me why you are entitled to such things, especially when you haven't paid a cent for this site's content?
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Feb 16 2012, 06:49
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Ssssshitttt. I just dropped ALL of my plans to grind, grind and GRIND so I could have enough credits to download EVERY TOUHOU NON-H.
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