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Feb 15 2012, 23:43
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Chips Handon
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ecchi manga and non-h by H artists aside, what about the good non-h stuff that isn't posted almost anywhere else? Why not just keep non-H tag, but weed out the galleries that are like "Naruto chapter 556" etc.
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Feb 15 2012, 23:44
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Zero Angel
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 16 2012, 00:19)  Note however that everything that remains in the Non-H category will be removed from the site when the invisible timer runs out.
Can you at least give us an estimate on when this invisible timer will run out? Weeks? Months?
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Feb 15 2012, 23:45
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 15 2012, 10:19)  You can no longer set new uploads to use the categories Non-H and Asian Porn, as these are being phased out. Already uploaded galleries will still be available for some time, but they will eventually be removed, so grab them if you want them.
Just curious, but is this related to SOPA or PIPA at all? Due to recent DMCA notices that Mangastream and RHS have received, I'm guessing maybe you received a fair share of them as well and this is a response to it? Or is removing clutter from the Non-h and Asian Porn categories a way to free up some space to ensure the future growth of the site without donations? I'm sad that they are going down the gutter since there are numerous high quality works that I view occasionally from both categories, but if it's for the survival of the site, then I guess there's no choice.
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Feb 15 2012, 23:46
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 15 2012, 14:41)  And who is going to browse through 22000 galleries and decide what is what? You?
What if someone created a thread to have reports of licensed material, and users sift through and expunge them? Edit: Mentioned on /a/, some system would need to be implemented to avoid a witch hunt though. This post has been edited by HorridGuest: Feb 15 2012, 23:55
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Feb 15 2012, 23:49
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 15 2012, 16:41)  And who is going to browse through 22000 galleries and decide what is what? You?
*Hands thrown up in the air*
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Feb 15 2012, 23:52
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QUOTE(HorridGuest @ Feb 15 2012, 16:46)  What if someone created a thread to have reports of licensed material, and users sift through and expunge them?
I second this.
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Feb 15 2012, 23:55
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Chips Handon
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Or we could tag things as "Commericial" or something
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Feb 15 2012, 23:56
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soliloquy
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I'd be willing to help expunge licensed stuff. EH has done a pretty good job self policing so far, at least in my opinion.
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Feb 15 2012, 23:57
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DarkNemesis
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Better do it the harsh way than getting sued because of the licensed material (2012 I call it the year of the copyright) and having to take down the whole site plus the galleries with all the hentai content. Now that would be major suckage (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) .
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Feb 16 2012, 00:02
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Drksrpnt
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Are things tagged as "Prohibited Content" regularly purged? Because if so, we could tag/expunge whatever non-h/commercial manga is uploaded and let it all die over time.
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Feb 16 2012, 00:05
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Feb 15 2012, 14:02)  Are things tagged as "Prohibited Content" regularly purged?
Nope.
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Feb 16 2012, 00:08
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Skeleton Snax
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 15 2012, 23:11)  The former could generally go in Misc. The latter is ok to include under the Doujinshi/Manga categories. Like I said, there won't be a blanket ban against Non-H, there simply won't be a dedicated category for it. As it is today, people are simply abusing it too much.
Does this include stuff from like Dlsite like sites or basically, stuff personally purchased by users?
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Feb 16 2012, 00:09
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silent7
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Is the real issue licensed manga and whatnot? Like manga that are licensed here in the West? Would non-licensed works be okay? LNs that aren't licensed would be fine then?
Minding that, I'd gladly help in going through the non-h galleries and report on those. Anything to keep all those non-h doujins, artbooks, non-licensed works, and so on from being deleted.
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Feb 16 2012, 00:12
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imnotamused
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 16 2012, 00:41)  And who is going to browse through 22000 galleries and decide what is what? You?
About this!! THE USERS! users are the ones that tag, and there's an option with "petition to expunge" and all that shit right? Why not add an option to flag/report licensed or common manga? I'm all against this turning into a mangafox, but just like everyone in the /a/ thread, no one wants to see all those hard to find djs disappear. And like someone said: Give either small credit for real valid reports, good credit for mods/janitors whatever actually getting rid of said galleries, and -REALLY IMPORTANT- a notice to ban or punish users that don't flag properly, or we might end with a witch hunt. This is really really important to us as you can see in the /a/ thread, as many series are really hard to find and will completely banish as soon as the timer runs out.
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Feb 16 2012, 00:21
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If people are willing to put in the hours, we might be able to keep it. But I don't want to see any commercial manga releases in there, so here's what you'd have to do. Make a new thread in the vigilante for it, and use it to list of the galleries in question - one per line, the full URL first - that way I can easily mass-nuke them.
I'll give it a few days, and we'll see how it goes.
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Feb 16 2012, 00:24
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imnotamused
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 16 2012, 01:21)  If people are willing to put in the hours, we might be able to keep it. But I don't want to see any commercial manga releases in there, so here's what you'd have to do. Make a new thread in the vigilante for it, and use it to list of the galleries in question - one per line, the full URL first - that way I can easily mass-nuke them.
I'll give it a few days, and we'll see how it goes.
Why not make users tag as "commercial" and get rid of them if tagged properly? it'd be more natural and easier over time. EDIT!: /a/ thread talking about this, really important as pretty much everyone there uses e-/ex one way or another. As archive so it can be reviewed over time [ archive.foolz.us] http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/61436494/This post has been edited by imnotamused: Feb 16 2012, 00:30
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Feb 16 2012, 00:26
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DarkNemesis
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 16 2012, 01:21)  If people are willing to put in the hours, we might be able to keep it. But I don't want to see any commercial manga releases in there, so here's what you'd have to do. Make a new thread in the vigilante for it, and use it to list of the galleries in question - one per line, the full URL first - that way I can easily mass-nuke them.
I'll give it a few days, and we'll see how it goes.
I'd be a bit carefull and not give the full responsibility to the users since it could always happen that the wrong galleries get reported/deleted because of misuse or by accident.
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Feb 16 2012, 00:33
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silent7
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QUOTE(DarkNemesis @ Feb 15 2012, 14:26)  I'd be a bit carefull and not give the full responsibility to the users since it could always happen that the wrong galleries get reported/deleted because of misuse or by accident.
This. Some people might report on something that's non-commercial and thus will get it deleted, after all.
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Feb 16 2012, 00:36
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imnotamused
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QUOTE(DarkNemesis @ Feb 16 2012, 01:26)  I'd be a bit carefull and not give the full responsibility to the users since it could always happen that the wrong galleries get reported/deleted because of misuse or by accident.
See: QUOTE(imnotamused @ Feb 16 2012, 01:12)  [...]
Give either small credit for real valid reports, good credit for mods/janitors whatever actually getting rid of said galleries, and -REALLY IMPORTANT- a notice to ban or punish users that don't flag properly, or we might end with a witch hunt.
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note the line on not properly flagging/reporting
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Feb 16 2012, 00:36
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DarkNemesis
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QUOTE(silent7 @ Feb 16 2012, 01:33)  This. Some people might report on something that's non-commercial and thus will get it deleted, after all.
Sad thing is you can't really trust people as of today (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) especially on the interwebs (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . EDIT: @imnotamused OHHH didn't see that. Could be an option indeed (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . This post has been edited by DarkNemesis: Feb 16 2012, 00:40
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