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You must be trolling me.

Pruned/edited out all the useless/rhetorical stuff you put in.

Majority of active melee users with more than half a brain already have a (few) use-able ethereal weapon in their possession. Majority of active mages with more than half a brain do *not* use an ethereal staff and will not in the near future unless some big change occurs.

You talk about a new suit of shade and it being such a big deal. You do know its drop rate is probably higher than phase right?

As for that comment about Kevlar vs Shade - Wow.

You forgot the part where ethereal weapons cost your weight in credits, when any single one on auction end at more than 100k bids. Of course it's only a concern for the commoners stagnating under lvl 250.

This post has been edited by La_Mangouste: Jan 26 2012, 03:02

You forgot the part where ethereal weapons cost your weight in credits, when any single one on auction end at more than 100k bids. Of course it's only a concern for the commoners stagnating under lvl 250.

I may have forgotten something but that isn't one of them. And there is no commoner/elite between levels. Proper resource management does play a role though.

Edit: Does play a role in what gear the player has though*

And attention to detail of course.

This post has been edited by dcherry: Jan 26 2012, 03:22

So, is there any way to bind the Skill to a certain key? The script mentioned here does not work for me for some reason, it simply triggers a normal attack.

I may have forgotten something but that isn't one of them. And there is no commoner/elite between levels. Proper resource management does play a role though.

Edit: Does play a role in what gear the player has though*

And attention to detail of course.

To be fair, the old phase equipment still exist and they're still awesome. I've also looked at the new Shade with the old ones and my old Kevlar. Their stats seem to be weaker (evade and other attributes) but people using light armor are forced to switch to these new shade just to reduce burden which would yield a greater net avoidance than the old equips.

This post has been edited by Ratio: Jan 26 2012, 04:58

To be fair, the old phase equipment still exist and they're still awesome.

No. Max EDB old phase = Min EDB new phase.

I've also looked at the new Shade with the old ones and my old Kevlar. Their stats seem to be weaker (evade and other attributes) but people using light armor are forced to switch to these new shade just to reduce burden which would yield a greater net avoidance than the old equips.

Only burden & interference was changed, ie: removed / slightly increased. It's just your luck (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I'm guessing there may be a change to the Forge next patch for ethereal weapon upgrades.

I love the way people appoint 0.6.4 patch as a scapegoat for all sorts of problems...

I've also looked at the new Shade with the old ones and my old Kevlar. Their stats seem to be weaker (evade and other attributes) but people using light armor are forced to switch to these new shade just to reduce burden which would yield a greater net avoidance than the old equips.

Only burden & interference was changed, ie: removed / slightly increased. It's just your luck (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Here is an example of new Shade, if somebody need to compare: Exquisite Shade Breastplate of the Fleet

EDIT: I've found one more sample: Fine Shade Helmet of the Fleet

This post has been edited by Evil Scorpio: Jan 26 2012, 12:15

I just wish i can use my chaos tokens/credits to level up my weapons.

You can use your credits, just buy the needed mats on the forums. Set a high enough price and someone will sell it to you.

In hindsight, I like this patch.
Gameplay may be slower, but my main critter is racking up kills three times faster (IMG:[i1194.photobucket.com] http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/hurpaderpaderp/Teehee.png)

Nothing bad that doesn't have something good with it, eh?

You must be trolling me.

Pruned/edited out all the useless/rhetorical stuff you put in.

Majority of active melee users with more than half a brain already have a (few) use-able ethereal weapon in their possession. Majority of active mages with more than half a brain do *not* use an ethereal staff and will not in the near future unless some big change occurs.

You talk about a new suit of shade and it being such a big deal. You do know its drop rate is probably higher than phase right?

As for that comment about Kevlar vs Shade - Wow.

Majority of active melee users of high level at least. I do have a few etheral weapons, and some are even useable, but not a single mace, they are all either 1h or longswords.
And buying even a halfway decent ethereal mace usually ends up somewhere just short of a million credits on the WTS forums.
And of course mages won't use an ethereal staff, they have no use for the main advantage that ethereal weapons had, namely the melee void damage that bypassed specific damage mitigation.
But the change still affected melees more. Yes, a melee with good gear, meaning a full set of new shade and a ethereal weapon, will now have higher evade, but without an ethereal weapon the mage will be better at evasion.
And without a new set of shade gear, the same thing.

As for my comment about kevlar vs shade, what was wrong with it?
Or are you of the opinion that kevlar is worthless and should remain that way, and kevlar and leather drops is just a way of making actual useable equipment drop rarer and might as well be removed and replaced with icnreased credit drops instead?
So make kevlar even more worthless, by penalizing evade, and make ethereal weapons even more powerful.
So that anyone that plays melee should be in full shade gear and an ethereal mace and everything else is just because you can't afford shade and ethereal mace.
Same thing with mages, full set of phase gear with EDB bonus, only difference here is that the EDB bonuses might actually differ based on the damage type the mage prefers.

Er um wait, so 2H-users do not receive any chain-skill?
Well, that wasn't really nice. Whatever.

It'll likely come next patch.
Tenb probably had some problems in how to create good 2H skills so that 2H doesn't once again become the dominant melee weapon.
2H skills that hit all the mobs, like shatter strike, will quickly make 2H superior.
Even decreasing the OC cost for shatter strike, like for the other 1st tier skills, would make it much better than the other fighting styles.

So look forward to new 2H skills in the next patch. Probably along with a 2H nerf, so that it isn't superior to the melee styles.

This post has been edited by Randommember: Jan 26 2012, 12:22

You can use your credits, just buy the needed mats on the forums. Set a high enough price and someone will sell it to you.

I think he was referring to the item level, not forge upgrades.

In hindsight, I like this patch.
Gameplay may be slower, but my main critter is racking up kills three times faster (IMG:[i1194.photobucket.com] http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/hurpaderpaderp/Teehee.png)

I've been wondering about this for a while, but are high PL monster's wins wasted? I mean a few of my monsters can occasionally rack up 9 wins, but it's hard to manage anything more than 1 gift a day (peak hours and other randomness).

CODE

Checks/day  Hours/check  Wins needed
0.5         48            2.1 ( 3)
1           24            4.2 ( 5)
2           12            8.3 ( 9)
3            8           12.5 (13)
4            6           16.7 (17)

This post has been edited by Ballistic9: Jan 26 2012, 13:20

I think he was referring to the item level, not forge upgrades.

Ah yeah, that makes more sense of course.
But hey, you can trade that on the forums as well, just heavily demanding on trust.
You trade your item, and the payment, to someone, who then does the item world at a certain agreed upon difficulty level, and then trades it back to you.
And that person of course, as extra payment, gets to keep all the drops and everything else.

Heavily reliant on trust, but possible.
Could even be made into a business, get a lowbie and deck him out in perfect gear and he could do item worlds with ease due to facing low-level monsters.

When I use Shatter Strike while in Spirit Stance and have overcharge at 103%-107% I get "Insufficient overcharge to use Shatter Strike." (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Yeah, Spirit Stance consumes OC at the very beginning of each turn.

And that's some serious bull, mightisay.

Edited after the Great Tenboro spoke...

One can only wish for it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Soo you'd like to benefit from having Spirit Stance during that turn, even though you don't actually have enough OC after using the skill to keep it active?

You people...

This post has been edited by Aspire4740: Jan 26 2012, 20:14

Soo you'd like to benefit from having Spirit Stance during that turn, even though you don't actually have enough OC after using the skill to keep it active?

You people...

Soo you'd like to benefit from having Spirit Stance during that turn, even though you don't actually have enough OC after using the skill to keep it active?

You people...

Just make it use OC when you active it instead of when you deactivate it. It's really annoying that on the last turn of SS it list the cheaper mana price but if you cast the spell it cost the higher price.

I've been wondering about this for a while, but are high PL monster's wins wasted? I mean a few of my monsters can occasionally rack up 9 wins, but it's hard to manage anything more than 1 gift a day (peak hours and other randomness).

CODE

Checks/day  Hours/check  Wins needed
0.5         48            2.1 ( 3)
1           24            4.2 ( 5)
2           12            8.3 ( 9)
3            8           12.5 (13)
4            6           16.7 (17)

Yesterday my critter was getting around 5 wins per hour, which is more than enough to get more than 1 gift a day.
Liselotte, Eila and Egg are probably getting twice as much kills as that.

Soo you'd like to benefit from having Spirit Stance during that turn, even though you don't actually have enough OC after using the skill to keep it active?

You people...

I think I agree with you this time. Same treatment as auto-cast.

Soo you'd like to benefit from having Spirit Stance during that turn, even though you don't actually have enough OC after using the skill to keep it active?.

Yes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Just make it use OC when you active it instead of when you deactivate it. It's really annoying that on the last turn of SS it list the cheaper mana price but if you cast the spell it cost the higher price.

This
It's just somewhat misleading at first.

To be fair, the old phase equipment still exist and they're still awesome. I've also looked at the new Shade with the old ones and my old Kevlar. Their stats seem to be weaker (evade and other attributes) but people using light armor are forced to switch to these new shade just to reduce burden which would yield a greater net avoidance than the old equips.

As Ballistic said, nothing changed other than Bur/Int
As for old phase being awesome... that's very subjective. If you're content with your old phase, then all the power to you. =)

But the change still affected melees more. Yes, a melee with good gear, meaning a full set of new shade and a ethereal weapon, will now have higher evade, but without an ethereal weapon the mage will be better at evasion.
And without a new set of shade gear, the same thing.

As for my comment about kevlar vs shade, what was wrong with it?

The mage will have higher evade assuming the melee doesn't have new shade/current SD/ethereal weapon? But you forgot one part. You're assuming that mage has a full suit of phase. Good job with consistency. If you're looking at a mage with full phase and a good staff why aren't you looking at a melee with good shade equip/ethereal weapons? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) If we look at credits spent, it's roughly the same. You can spend 2 million for an ethereal mace if you're willing. But so can mages on a good enough staff.

I was just surprised you had the opinion that kevlar is worse than shade X months after the majority of melees felt that already (where X is time between when shade first came out and now). Just a little late.

Soo you'd like to benefit from having Spirit Stance during that turn, even though you don't actually have enough OC after using the skill to keep it active?

You people...

Suspicious. This looks like thinly veiled feedback pertaining to comments on your release note.

Like I said last patch, I won't be commenting specifically on patch feedback anymore. People blew it by being overly negative and only focusing on specific changes. So yeah, all that leaves you with is ponies.

Care to comment? Or not? I can't tell. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)