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post Oct 18 2016, 22:04
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QUOTE(Jack Tekila @ May 16 2016, 13:04) *

Just found this: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=785bc083fe

It has higher base adb than what the wiki says it's possible for a mag power gauntlet of slaughter

and this: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=37dd90372d

with higher str than max for exquisite power boots.

Hope it helps...



QUOTE(skillchip @ May 30 2016, 12:52) *

Wiki updated, as usual look for issues with formating



Just wanted to make sure we all understood the point of the wiki ranges.
The wiki only shows the current patch ranges.
The current range for this patch is EID >= 67250000


Skillchip, in this case I don't believe a manual update was needed.

For example;
The mag item has a creation scan date of 2016-05-12 19:55:36.
Based on the date of the original post, it hadn't had a chance to 'process'. Full calculation of scripts/etc happens weekly.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=785bc083fe

The exq item is out of range and consider equipment of the previous patch (in which slaughter was indeed higher).
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=37dd90372d

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post Oct 18 2016, 22:18
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post Oct 18 2016, 22:24
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Oct 18 2016, 16:18) *

I try to update every Friday, not always does it happen (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


Yeah, I'm probably not realizing how you actually make these tweaks or modifications, but the point I was trying to make is to not do manual updates just based on a single piece of equipment.

If something in the system isn't processing properly, we should re-look at how the reports are being generated.
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post Oct 22 2016, 02:44
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ Oct 18 2016, 20:24) *

Yeah, I'm probably not realizing how you actually make these tweaks or modifications, but the point I was trying to make is to not do manual updates just based on a single piece of equipment.

If something in the system isn't processing properly, we should re-look at how the reports are being generated.


Thankfully none of the values are typed in by hand. All copy paste.
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post Oct 22 2016, 21:30
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Updated again!
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post Nov 5 2016, 08:24
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Is there a simple formula to calculate the min-max rolls of an equipment?
I'm too to dumb understand the equipment ranges wiki.

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post Nov 5 2016, 08:40
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QUOTE(Kiriman1 @ Nov 5 2016, 06:24) *
Is there a simple formula to calculate the min-max rolls of an equipment?
I'm too to dumb understand the equipment ranges wiki.
Since we already have (mostly accurate) Lmin and Lmax stats, a formula on top of that would only needlessly complicate matters. The wiki is pretty straightforward, what doesn't make sense about it?

Eg if you're interested in ADB, and you have a Legendary Axe of Slaughter, you'd go to the Axe section
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges#Axe
under Legendary and Slaughter, and you see that Lmin and Lmax are 67.83 and 75.92
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post Nov 5 2016, 23:12
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QUOTE(Kiriman1 @ Nov 5 2016, 06:24) *

Is there a simple formula to calculate the min-max rolls of an equipment?
I'm too to dumb understand the equipment ranges wiki.


There is a formula* it hasn't changed TOO much from the one that is on the wiki page.

*It is not simple, it is complicated and not easy to understand.

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post Nov 6 2016, 00:13
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 5 2016, 08:40) *

Since we already have (mostly accurate) Lmin and Lmax stats, a formula on top of that would only needlessly complicate matters. The wiki is pretty straightforward, what doesn't make sense about it?

Eg if you're interested in ADB, and you have a Legendary Axe of Slaughter, you'd go to the Axe section
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges#Axe
under Legendary and Slaughter, and you see that Lmin and Lmax are 67.83 and 75.92


So how do I know where the Legendary axe of Slaughter falls under that range?
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post Nov 6 2016, 01:21
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QUOTE(Kiriman1 @ Nov 5 2016, 22:13) *
So how do I know where the Legendary axe of Slaughter falls under that range?
You just look at your equip's stat and compare it. Eg:
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under Legendary and Slaughter, and you see that Lmin and Lmax are 67.83 and 75.92
So if you have one with base ADB 68, that's pretty bad for a Legendary. If you have one with ADB 71, that's pretty average for a Legendary. If you have one with ADB 75, that's pretty top-tier.

Of course, you can do the same thing for other quality tiers too. From that same link, Mag Lmin and Lmax are 62.47, 70.24. So a Mag with 66 ADB would be pretty average within the Mag range.

I'm not sure how else to explain it. It's pretty simple (and nicer than looking at a formula).
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 6 2016, 01:21) *

You just look at your equip's stat and compare it. Eg:
So if you have one with base ADB 68, that's pretty bad for a Legendary. If you have one with ADB 71, that's pretty average for a Legendary. If you have one with ADB 75, that's pretty top-tier.

Of course, you can do the same thing for other quality tiers too. From that same link, Mag Lmin and Lmax are 62.47, 70.24. So a Mag with 66 ADB would be pretty average within the Mag range.

I'm not sure how else to explain it. It's pretty simple (and nicer than looking at a formula).



That's what I'm asking. I don't know where can I find the weapon's ADB. All I can see is the +slashing damage and it's already scaled on the equipment's level.
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QUOTE(Kiriman1 @ Nov 5 2016, 23:30) *
That's what I'm asking. I don't know where can I find the weapon's ADB. All I can see is the +slashing damage and it's already scaled on the equipment's level.
Mouse hover to see base stat.
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post Nov 6 2016, 02:37
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 6 2016, 02:10) *

Mouse hover to see base stat.


I can't mouse over/hover the equipment, the box disappears once the cursor leaves the equipment name.
I can mouse over on the equipment pages links I see here but I don't know how to get or go to that page.
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post Nov 6 2016, 02:59
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QUOTE(Kiriman1 @ Nov 6 2016, 01:37) *

I can't mouse over/hover the equipment, the box disappears once the cursor leaves the equipment name.
I can mouse over on the equipment pages links I see here but I don't know how to get or go to that page.

You have to press C on your keyboard when you are hovering on the equipment.
A popup will appear, and that will not disappear when you move the mouse.
In that way you can see your base stats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 6 2016, 02:59) *

You have to press C on your keyboard when you are hovering on the equipment.
A popup will appear, and that will not disappear when you move the mouse.
In that way you can see your base stats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post Nov 7 2016, 01:08
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So we misunderstood the whole question?

Thinking I should make graphs showing the distributions at some point, or at least checking to make sure its all normal distributions

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post Nov 7 2016, 06:24
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New record low block chance base?

Legendary Shielding Plate Cuirass of Protection

6.01, table shows range 6.03 to 7.09
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For ADB, Power Gauntlets Slaughter Lmin is higher than Power Helmet Slaughter Lmin. Helmet Lmin seems too low.
QUOTE(jackalo @ Nov 19 2016, 22:45) *
is the minimum on wiki equipment ranges wrong(minimum for helmet slaughter at 19.87 max = 25.57)?
Is the ranges script successfully filtering out equips before the helmet ADB change?

Or is there really an up-to-date helmet with 19.87?
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 20 2016, 01:51) *

For ADB, Power Gauntlets Slaughter Lmin is higher than Power Helmet Slaughter Lmin. Helmet Lmin seems too low.
Is the ranges script successfully filtering out equips before the helmet ADB change?

Or is there really an up-to-date helmet with 19.87?

Wasn't LMin 85% of LMax? So 21.73, probably.
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post Dec 13 2016, 17:34
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Legendary Ethereal Club of Slaughter Base damage is 59.21 but wiki says min 59.7
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