[X] My Assistant

Master's the only one in the whole world who can make makes my heart beat like this
Or do you still need more convincing?

is how I'd word it I guess

edit: not potential, oops

It's okay, but not quite good enough tbh...

It's okay, but not quite good enough tbh...

さて、いったいどこが不満なわけ？　助けを求めてる分際でよくそんな口を利くじゃないか

(half) joke aside, I actually can't even imagine which part you think isn't "good enough"

This post has been edited by paradeigma: May 14 2014, 15:55

さて、いったいどこが不満なわけ？　助けを求めてる分際でよくそんな口を利くじゃないか

(half) joke aside, I actually can't even imagine which part you think isn't "good enough"

On second thought, it's good enough a translation, though I'll need to proofread that a bit.

On second thought, it's good enough a translation, though I'll need to proofread that a bit.

やっぱこいつの口の利きかた、気に食わねえが…

I'm curious as to what you think it means, without worrying about putting it into natural English

(half) joke aside, I actually can't even imagine which part you think isn't "good enough"

Calm down.
He won't visit this thread again and again if he has skills around languages to point what is the problem.

Um, you may ignore something anyway...

やっぱこいつの口の利きかた、気に食わねえが…

I'm curious as to what you think it means, without worrying about putting it into natural English

Well, exactly as you translated. Your translation is okay as it is, but it'll take much more skills in English (more than I did anyways) to translate it any better. I know, cuz that's my main pitfall in TLing really, no offense meant.
(well, apathy is the worst offense anyways)

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 14 2014, 17:34

no offense meant.

If you think so, you must think about polite way of communications first.

If you think so, you must think about polite way of communications first.

Well, I'm aware of that, except that miscommunications can happen due to slip in the tounge really, which is to say, whenever you least expect it.

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: May 14 2014, 18:54

How about this one - そういう計画のはずだっのにっ is the line from this page (second narration box), I think? The Chinese scanlation has the line as "This should've been the plan all along!" or something to that effect, I'm just questioning it because of the next page's lines that go "For her to become this cute, it's too unfair!" or some such. Not seeing the logic of him accidentally stumbling into a great plan but then feeling it's unfair... but him finding her being so cute to be unfair makes it sounds like he wishes he was that cute instead.

Maybe it's just late and I'm not seeing some obvious logic here.

This post has been edited by Guestoid: May 14 2014, 19:02

How about this one - そういう計画のはずだっのにっ is the line from this page (second narration box), I think? The Chinese scanlation has the line as "This should've been the plan all along!" or something to that effect, I'm just questioning it because of the next page's lines that go "For her to become this cute, it's too unfair!" or some such. Not seeing the logic of him accidentally stumbling into a great plan but then feeling it's unfair... but him finding her being so cute to be unfair makes it sounds like he wishes he was that cute instead.

Maybe it's just late and I'm not seeing some obvious logic here.

そういう計画のはずだったのにっ, literally "Even though my plan was originally supposed to be like that"
referring to the previous bubble where he's talking about dragging her around just to show her the destruction of the human world, i.e. to break her spirit (presumably? I'm too lazy to read the whole story)

Just a side note, the next narration bubbles say something like "I shouldn't have turned her into a girl", "Her becoming this cute is unfair/cowardly", "I intended to turn Ashley(?) into a girl and break her but at this rate I'm going to be the one to fall"

Hrm, now I'm running into the problem of translating the Chinese, which I can read, or trying to get to the heart of the original text as best I can without much in the way of Japanese ability. A delicate balancing act at the best of times.

As I understand it thus far, in my first draft of the translation:
He's taking her around to show her how humans are destroying the planet (seems a little eco-warrior for a Demon King, but it's not like he's showing her stuff that he's destroying either... it's a confusing line either way around).
I took the narrative square bubbles to be isolated from the spoken text for the most part, so he's saying "Damn, I should've just done this from the beginning" (rather than follow the hero around for 5 years in disguise as a companion - yeah, his original plan was pretty shitty too).
The unfair bit is more that he's just totally taken aback by how hot the hero is as a girl, which is indeed making him to be the one who falls (I took that line to be "I intended her to be the one to fall, but in fact it looks like I'm falling?" more or less).

But by your understanding, he's upset from the very beginning of that page I linked, that he's been foiled in his plan (rather than happy to more or less enslave the hero) by her being cute? That might make more sense.

It doesn't help that, no offence to the hard-working Chinese translators, the translation I'm working from is sometimes flat-out wrong from what I can see.

This post has been edited by Guestoid: May 14 2014, 22:06

Hrm, now I'm running into the problem of translating the Chinese, which I can read, or trying to get to the heart of the original text as best I can without much in the way of Japanese ability. A delicate balancing act at the best of times.

As I understand it thus far, in my first draft of the translation:
He's taking her around to show her how humans are destroying the planet (seems a little eco-warrior for a Demon King, but it's not like he's showing her stuff that he's destroying either... it's a confusing line either way around).
I took the narrative square bubbles to be isolated from the spoken text for the most part, so he's saying "Damn, I should've just done this from the beginning" (rather than follow the hero around for 5 years in disguise as a companion - yeah, his original plan was pretty shitty too).
The unfair bit is more that he's just totally taken aback by how hot the hero is as a girl, which is indeed making him to be the one who falls (I took that line to be "I intended her to be the one to fall, but in fact it looks like I'm falling?" more or less).

But by your understanding, he's upset from the very beginning of that page I linked, that he's been foiled in his plan (rather than happy to more or less enslave the hero) by her being cute? That might make more sense.

It doesn't help that, no offence to the hard-working Chinese translators, the translation I'm working from is sometimes flat-out wrong from what I can see.

Ok, I actually read the story.
They were on a quest to go kill the Demon King and they'd been travelling together for 5 years, with the Demon King waiting in disguise for the chance to defeat the hero (how hard could that possibly be?!)
Then the Demon King turned the hero into a girl to make him powerless.
But even after that the girl-hero kept following the Demon King around, and DK is like "Why haven't you run away, don't you hate me for what I did"
And girl hero is like "Well I was upset at first but I realised, I didn't like how I was born into becoming a hero and actually you turning me into a girl has set me free. Also I'm falling in love with you"
And (then onto the page you posted) the Demon King gets angry and is like "Listen, I'm only dragging you around now to show you the upcoming destruction of the human world at my hands" (I guess that's my fault for trying to translate it without understanding the story)
And then that narration bubble [...that was what I was planning originally, but..]
and the rest pretty much unchanged ["Her becoming this cute is unfair/cowardly", "I intended to turn Ashley(?) into a girl and break her but at this rate I'm going to be the one to fall"]
La la la and they all lived peacefully ever after

Right, ok. It was just that "Showing you the world I'm about to destroy" ambiguity and the interaction between that and the square thought bubble that I was missing, then. The Chinese ("that should be/have been the plan") makes sense in that context too, so I guess I was asking about the wrong bubble.

Thanks for that, this one kept me scratching my head until... er, five in the morning. Time for bed, methinks.

Hello,

Just wanted to ask what this phrase means,

類は友を 呼ぶってかっ...

Hello,

Just wanted to ask what this phrase means,

類は友を 呼ぶってかっ...

It's a Japanese proverb roughly equivalent to "Birds of a feather flock together" (edit + ってか gives something like "I guess they say 'birds of a feather'..." or "Birds of a feather, huh...")

This post has been edited by paradeigma: May 16 2014, 22:56

Ah, I see. Thank you!

Got another new translator on my door step, and would like this page checked, please? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

marisa: (きゅう)に(がめん)が(さばく)になったんだぜ
the screen suddenly a became blur daze
reimu: いつものことよたたけば(なお)るんだから
it's always like this it'll work if you hit it
————
reimu: (うご)け
get working!
(うご)けっ
get working!!
うごきなさいよこれっ
get working already!!!
marisa: れいむ、エレキのことならにとりに(そうだん)だぜ
reimu, let's ask nitori if it's about electric daze
[（すし）は（すしや）]だぜ
[if it's sushi it have to be sushi-house] daze
reimu: それをいうなら[（もち）は（もちや）]でしよ
it's [if it's mochi it's have to be mochi-house]if you gonna say it
marisa: そうともいうぜ
you can say it like that as well ze


*だぜread as da-ze (not daze)in case u dont know,it's marisa accent btw ash(the one with pikachu)have this accent too (pokemon getto da-ze)
(daze might sound odd after translated feel free to change some part that sound odd into "ze")

*うごけ(ugoke) mean "move" but in this case i'll sound wired if directly translate

*饼は饼屋(mochi wa mochi-ya) it mean have pro do it is alwase better

Another than a few touch ups on the English, what's the verdict?

Got another new translator on my door step, and would like this page checked, please? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

marisa: (きゅう)に(がめん)が(さばく)になったんだぜ
the screen suddenly a became blur daze
reimu: いつものことよたたけば(なお)るんだから
it's always like this it'll work if you hit it
————
reimu: (うご)け
get working!
(うご)けっ
get working!!
うごきなさいよこれっ
get working already!!!
marisa: れいむ、エレキのことならにとりに(そうだん)だぜ
reimu, let's ask nitori if it's about electric daze
[（すし）は（すしや）]だぜ
[if it's sushi it have to be sushi-house] daze
reimu: それをいうなら[（もち）は（もちや）]でしよ
it's [if it's mochi it's have to be mochi-house]if you gonna say it
marisa: そうともいうぜ
you can say it like that as well ze


*だぜread as da-ze (not daze)in case u dont know,it's marisa accent btw ash(the one with pikachu)have this accent too (pokemon getto da-ze)
(daze might sound odd after translated feel free to change some part that sound odd into "ze")

*うごけ(ugoke) mean "move" but in this case i'll sound wired if directly translate

*饼は饼屋(mochi wa mochi-ya) it mean have pro do it is alwase better

Another than a few touch ups on the English, what's the verdict?

That is just painful
I'm not familar with how people translate Touhou in general but literally just tagging on "daze" for ～だぜ is awful and ugly and shouldn't be done

>the screen suddenly became a blur
I can't think of any standard term for the "snowstorm" you get with no reception on analog TVs but blur isn't even

>it's always like this it'll work if you hit it
Not exactly wrong but not great, "Don't worry, this always happens. A little hit should fix it up"

>get working!
...

>let's ask nitori if it's about electric daze
More naturally stated, "We should ask Nitori for help with electronic/technical stuff"

>crap about sushi and mochi
Can't really think of a good way to translate this part on the spot (Marisa is misusing the expression 'mochi wa mochiya' replacing mochi with sushi, but ya(屋) is not a literal house, it's an occupation/shop but you can't keep that ambiguity translating to English)
Translating it literally wouldn't lose too much, "Sushi is best from a sushi shop" "It's 'Mochi is best from a mochi shop'" "I guess you could say that too"



Unless you really don't mind having to pretty much rewrite the entire script...
People just shouldn't translate into languages they're clearly not competent in

This post has been edited by paradeigma: May 18 2014, 02:11

I'm not familar with how people translate Touhou in general but literally just tagging on "daze" for ～だぜ is awful and ugly and shouldn't be done

Eh, I think that's widely used and nobody complains about it (though I've been away from the Touhou scene for years).

>the screen suddenly became a blur
I can't think of any standard term for the "snowstorm" you get with no reception on analog TVs but blur isn't even

People normally call that static or white noise.

Translator missed a line. Or couldn't read it, script just says (???).

The line afterwards is totally random too, "And the way you make cup ramen isn’t bad either!"

This post has been edited by Marien : May 18 2014, 07:50