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Skill damage formula

Skill Damage = Physical Attack Base Damage * Skill Multiplier * (1+ (Current OC - 50)/50)
Note: Yes I know some skills cost more then 50, but it still fits.

Which of course is multiplied further by Heartseeker, hath perks, great status, riddle master, title, specialty items (gum/vase) ect.

Base Multiplier:
1h:
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Dual:
Iris: 1.5
Backstab: 2.5
Backstab (blinded): 5
Frenzy: 1.0

2H:
Cleaving Blow: 3.5
Rending Blow: 1
Shatter Strike: 1.5

Niten (lol):
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Staff:
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This post has been edited by skillchip: Sep 19 2012, 03:16

Skill damage formula

Skill Damage = Physical Attack Base Damage * Skill Multiplier * (1+ (Current OC - 50)/50)
Note: Yes I know some skills cost more then 50, but it still fits.

Which of course is multiplied further by Heartseeker, hath perks, great status, riddle master, title, specialty items (gum/vase) ect.

If I didn't screw anything up, using that formula the remaining ones should be:
Staff:
Concussive Strike: 1.5

Niten:
Skyward Sword: 1.0

1H:
Shield Bash: 1.0
Vital Strike: 2.5, 5.0 w/stun
Merciful Blow: 5.0 w/MonsterHP>25%.

The formula also fits Shield bash's lower 25 OC cost, reducing damage to only half of a normal attack when used with only 25 OC.

Skill damage formula ...

ditto

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Skill damage formula

Skill Damage = Physical Attack Base Damage * Skill Multiplier * (1+ (Current OC - 50)/50)
Note: Yes I know some skills cost more then 50, but it still fits.

Which of course is multiplied further by Heartseeker, hath perks, great status, riddle master, title, specialty items (gum/vase) ect.

Base Multiplier:
Dual:
Iris: 1.5
Backstab: 2.5
Backstab (blinded): 5
Frenzy: 1.0

2H:
Cleaving Blow: 3.5
Rending Blow: 1
Shatter Strike: 1.5

If I didn't screw anything up, using that formula the remaining ones should be:
Staff:
Concussive Strike: 1.5

Niten:
Skyward Sword: 1.0

1H:
Shield Bash: 1.0
Vital Strike: 2.5, 5.0 w/stun
Merciful Blow: 5.0 w/MonsterHP>25%.

The formula also fits Shield bash's lower 25 OC cost, reducing damage to only half of a normal attack when used with only 25 OC.

Change this

Skill Damage = Physical Attack Base Damage * Skill Multiplier * (1+ (Current OC - 50)/50)

to

Skill Damage = Physical Attack Base Damage * Skill Multiplier * OC * 0.02
makes it a bit simpler, I just had it the original way when I was trying to figure out if it was OC-50, or OC-cost, and it makes it a bit easier to understand to see that each point of overcharge you have equals 2% damage

This post has been edited by skillchip: Sep 19 2012, 03:16

Done.

Some brave soul should try to convince Tenboro to add the [www.mediawiki.org] Math extensions to the wiki, those formula would look a lot nicer

I asked him once a long time ago back when I was actively working on the wiki. I don't know if he just ignored me.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/forge#Materials_Costs

Is this outdated? Cause for my staff, it's requiring more materials than indicated by the table.

Example: level 6 of holy EDB on that staff requires 2 HG, while level 10 prof requires 3.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/forge#Materials_Costs

Is this outdated? Cause for my staff, it's requiring more materials than indicated by the table.

Example: level 6 of holy EDB on that staff requires 2 HG, while level 10 prof requires 3.

Very probably the amount of materials required is slightly affected by potency.

Can I get a screenshot of Tag Flagging in action? Thanks!

Can I get a screenshot of Tag Flagging in action? Thanks!

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Anything in both categories shows up red.

Thanks, forgot to mention no fjording tags. Sorry!

Thanks, forgot to mention no fjording tags. Sorry!

OFC has a multiplier of 5

So what exactly do we know about trophies? Do they get Random(1-1000) + Bonus, or just Bonus?

So what exactly do we know about trophies? Do they get Random(1-1000) + Bonus, or just Bonus?

AFAIK it's the former.

So, I ran into a snag (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Crude Cotton Shoes of Warding 12476373
Magic Accuracy 2.39
Evade Chance 5.36
Physical Mitigation 6.38
Magical Mitigation 10.4
quality 0.39ish

vs

Crude Cotton Shoes of Warding 12461434
Magic Accuracy 2.39
Evade Chance 5.36
Physical Mitigation 6.38
Magical Mitigation 12.39
quality 0.39ish

and


Crude Cotton Shoes of Warding 12484015
Magic Accuracy 2.44
Evade Chance 3.44
Physical Mitigation 6.43
Magical Mitigation 15.47
quality 0.44ish

vs

Fair Cotton Shoes of Warding 12484015
Magic Accuracy 2.52
Evade Chance 3.53
Physical Mitigation 6.52
Magical Mitigation 16.52
quality 0.52ish

Reason I call this a snag is:
The third and fourth, mmi goes up by one, and quality goes up by around 0.08.
The first and second, mmi goes up by two, and quality stays practically the same.

The reasons for this: MAGIC
But seriously, it may have something to do with the new formula. First it does the quality calc without the PABs being rolled yet. Then based on that quality assigns PABs and re-rolls.

So the second equip which has higher MMI probably has more PABs in its maximum roll then the first one.

Also along these same lines, the fourth piece (which is fair) probably had less PAB potential then the third (crude) which is why it is such higher quality even though it only has a slight amount more mmi.

So, what to take from this if you just are glancing over it, Quality is a major bitch. Since we have to guess how many PABs should have been assigned to a piece in order to figure out which maximum roll is needed for it. In other words: we know less then we thought...

This post has been edited by skillchip: Sep 28 2012, 02:37

In other words: we know less then we thought...

Well... at least we know that! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well... at least we know that! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Glad you approve.

So to say what we know in a complex mathematical formula that wont work on the forums or wiki.

Quality = x/y

x = total weighted points
y = maximum weighted points

x = points1 * weight1 + points2 * weight2 + ... +pointsI * weightI

y = maxpoints1 * weight1 + maxpoints2 * weight2 + ... + maxpointsI * weightI

Where points is quite simply, how much more then the min a certain stat is. IE. if pmi can roll from 5-10 and a 8 is rolled, then it gives 4 points, which is then weighted in the current system.

Issue 1: are points determined by legendary min/max, superior min/max, depends on if it is superior or legendary, or what? We need the min/maxs to also figure out the maximum weighted points and the total.

Now, PABs throw a bit of a kink in this. We should have solved this back when PABs were set actually...

Issue 2: As it is now, PABs may or may not be added into y based on the quality of the piece with absolutely no PABs. If they are added into y, I am not sure how they act on x, does the points for that stat go to 0, or can it be negative.