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post Aug 11 2012, 23:15
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So slot -> tier -> suffix -> quality determined?
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post Aug 12 2012, 00:01
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Aug 11 2012, 21:15) *

So slot -> tier -> suffix -> quality determined?


kinda

slot (note1) -> tier -> suffix -> quality determined -> PABs (note2) -> quality redetermined -> eth/elemental

note1: slot rolls are broken into types: 9/3/3/3/15/15/15 1h/2h/staff/shield/cloth/light/leather, where i can be broken down to 9/3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3 by splitting cloth/light/leather into equal probabilities for each slot. Propose slot is changed to type

note2: PAB probabilities determined by first quality calculation.
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post Aug 12 2012, 00:05
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Ugh, this is gonna be a messy chart...
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post Aug 12 2012, 00:59
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post Aug 12 2012, 17:13
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Okay I'm stuck at this last part.

When it is determined that an item is dropping (not a crystal or token though), when does the quality roll kick in? Before determining the type or after (and therefore affected by quality)? I mean potions vs. scrolls, elixirs, etc.

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post Aug 12 2012, 18:42
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Aug 12 2012, 15:13) *

Okay I'm stuck at this last part.

When it is determined that an item is dropping (not a crystal or token though), when does the quality roll kick in? Before determining the type or after (and therefore affected by quality)? I mean potions vs. scrolls, elixirs, etc.

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- Consumables now drop at a rate of 50% health, 30% mana, 10% spirit, 4% scroll, 4% infusion, 1% elixirs and 1% "special"

- As these items are no longer obtainable through the Shrine, the drop rate for "rare" items (elixirs, high-level scrolls, gaia infusions, flower vases and so on) was doubled.

- Consumable drop rates have been shifted somewhat from health potions towards mana potions. Instead of consumable drops being 40% health and 20% mana, it's now 30% health and 30% mana.

Each of these notes were from a newer patch.

Also tenboro changed rare drops from happening due to high quality to just flat %s since people were farming them to well. The quality rolls on potions and such happen after the class of item has been found.
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post Aug 12 2012, 18:52
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So whether you get a gaia scroll or a shadow scroll is not affected by any quality rolls.

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post Aug 14 2012, 22:11
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I wonder whether the amount of EDB bonus from elemental weapon have anything to do with the quality determination... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Not that I really care or have any knowledge about this kind of thing... But the chart seems to lumped elem weapon into the same group as eth though they don't modify equips in the same manner, so I thought you guys might want to have a look at it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 14 2012, 22:54
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Quality determines Eth/Elem chance, not the other way around.
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post Aug 14 2012, 23:29
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Made some changes to the bestiary, if you don't like them, feel free to revert.
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post Aug 14 2012, 23:32
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Aug 15 2012, 03:54) *

Quality determines Eth/Elem chance, not the other way around.


I'm talking about the Elemental Spell Damage Bonus (i.e. EDB) which spawn on an elemental weapon, which has a min-max range, like PAB. I'm not talking about the chance...

And here's what I'm saying: Does the value of this extra EDB from elem weapon ...

• is use to determine quality (in whatever way) as well, like how PAB seem to be now.

or...

• is random and completely separated from the quality determination process, like how PAB used to be a few patches ago.


The chart assumes the 2nd option to be true, but is it really? ... That is my question. (IMG:[bbs.pramool.com] http://bbs.pramool.com/webboard/pic/20.gif)

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QUOTE(buktore @ Aug 14 2012, 21:32) *

I'm talking about the Elemental Spell Damage Bonus (i.e. EDB) which spawn on an elemental weapon, which has a min-max range, like PAB. I'm not talking about the chance...

And here's what I'm saying: Does the value of this extra EDB from elem weapon ...

• is use to determine quality (in whatever way) as well, like how PAB seem to be now.

or...

• is random and completely separated from the quality determination process, like how PAB used to be a few patches ago.
The chart assumes the 2nd option to be true, but is it really? ... That is my question. (IMG:[bbs.pramool.com] http://bbs.pramool.com/webboard/pic/20.gif)


probably a quick recalc like how tenboro does after PABs
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post Aug 16 2012, 06:36
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Can I get confirmation that Willow/Oak are T1?
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post Aug 16 2012, 06:41
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Aug 16 2012, 06:36) *

Can I get confirmation that Willow/Oak are T1?

here
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- Willow and Oak staffs were changed to tier 1 in the loot table.
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post Aug 18 2012, 18:47
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Need data on token distribution.

Currently guessing 30/30/40 since Tenboro said Chaos now drops more than the other 2.
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post Aug 20 2012, 02:45
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Just a small thing, hope this is the right topic here;
just found http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4a5400f460 with a base dex value of 3.88, the wiki lists the maximun at 3.58.
edit: shoot, you're right, was looking at the wrong subforum and thus didn't find the topic, my bad

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QUOTE(Temchy @ Aug 20 2012, 02:45) *
Just a small thing, hope this is the right topic here;
just found Exquisite Plate Helmet of Protection with a base dex value of 3.88, the wiki lists the maximun at 3.58.

The right place to report equipments stats falling outside the ranges is Equipment Ranges.
They have to be an eid over 10 000 000 which your item have.
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post Aug 25 2012, 21:53
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I assume we have some data on powerup/gem drop rates by now?
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post Aug 28 2012, 21:41
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I just realized something.

There is no proficiency that increases Magic Accuracy, right?
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pretty sure no

my magic 8 ball agrees
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