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Not sure where on the wiki this should go but here it is. This should be close enough, since I don't have 1000s of points of data, and I don't really want that many points.


Here are the tier multipliers for a given difficulty

Normal 1
Hard 1.5
Heroic 2
Nightmare 2.5
Hell 3
Nintendo 3.5
BT 4
IWBTH 5

Which comes out to the following ratios in %

Normal
T1 93
T2 5
T3 2

Hard
T1 89.5
T2 7.5
T3 3

Heroic
T1 86
T2 10
T3 4

Nightmare
T1 82.5
T2 12.5
T3 5

Hell
T1 79
T2 15
T3 6

Nintendo
T1 75.5
T2 17.5
T3 7

BT
T1 72
T2 20
T3 8

IWBTH
T1 65
T2 25
T3 10

And here are the equipment in each tier

1H
T1: Dagger, Club, Rapier, Shortsword
T2: Axe
T3: Wakizashi

2H
T1: Estoc, Longsword, Mace
T2: Scythe
T3: Katana

Staff
T1: Redwood
T2: Oak, Willow
T3: Ebony, Katalox

Shield
T1: Buckler
T2: Kite
T3: Tower

Cloth
T1: Cotton
T2: Gossamer
T3: Phase

Light
T1: Leather
T2: Kevlar
T3: Shade

Heavy
T1: Plate
T2: Shield
T3: Power

This post has been edited by skillchip: Jun 2 2013, 00:52

nice. those numbers look very similar to the credit modifiers (if not identical) if memory serves correct. doesn't that confirm your hypothesis a while back that it would be the case?

Not sure where on the wiki this should go but here it is. This should be close enough, since I don't have 1000s of points of data, and I don't really want that many points.

Hm....for me, I won't add that into wiki unless this can be confirmed by another independent source.
I'll re-direct any interest to this thread though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Yeah, they match the credit formulas like I thought they would.

Verifying it would be a bitch, need thousands of drops in a certain category, in a specific difficulty.

This post has been edited by skillchip: May 25 2012, 20:35

should go there

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/difficulty#Challenge_Level

Basically put in the credit modifiers into that table and reference the drop modifier as well as link to the post in that section.

Edit: should also be referenced here somewhere

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/equipment

This post has been edited by dcherry: May 25 2012, 23:19

New Poison Spell Attempt:

Base Magical Damage * 10%(DoT Effective Multiplier) * (1 + 6.25%*Additional_AP) * (1 + Prof/200) * (1 + Prof/1000) * (1 + Dark_EDB/100) * (1 + Arcane_Focus) * (1 + Stamina_Bonus) * (1 + Bubble_Gum) * Assumed:[ (1 + Hath_Bonus) * (1 + Flower_Vase)]
No Critical Hit or Channeling Bonus

Spreading Poison in-game description is now: "...and eliminates it's evade chance." So -100% now?

Bubble Gum's damage modifier is +100% both phys.&mag. In-game description states such and effect matches.

Imperil is -50% Phys./Mag. & -50(Fire/Cold/Elec/Wind) at any AP investment, only the duration changes.

Backstab's Poison Attempt:
Base Physical Damage * 0.1%(DoT Effective Multiplier) * (1 + Spirit_Stance) * (1 + Heartseeker) * (1 + Stamina_Bonus) * (1 + Title_Bonus) * Assumed:[(1 + Bubble_Gum) * (1 + Hath_Bonus) * (1 + Flower_Vase)]
It's either rounded multiple time, there is another modifier I couldn't find, or the DoT modifer is slightly off. Not much I can do though when the final damage values were 2, 3, 4, 5 , and 7 damage per turn.

The problem now is how the DoT Effective Multiplier is calculated. I have no freaking idea...

The problem now is how the DoT Effective Multiplier is calculated. I have no freaking idea...

I think its just set at 10%. Similar to how Vital Strikes Bleed Effectiveness is set at 25%.
It's my guess that Backstab was meant to have the same 10% modifier, but was setup wrong. Such as, the value was input as .1 instead of 10, and it's later modified to a percentage becoming .1% instead of 10%.

This post has been edited by kjeron: May 26 2012, 15:25

By the way I've seen two separate prof included.

(1 + Prof/200) * (1 + Prof/1000)

What's that prof for?

By the way I've seen two separate prof included.

(1 + Prof/200) * (1 + Prof/1000)

What's that prof for?

Both Depricating

So that's why it seems to be off at high depre prof...the prof factor is indeed non-linear.
Verified with my data, so I'm going to add that into wiki.

Done. Thanks for the info.

This post has been edited by varst: May 26 2012, 15:43

New Poison Spell Attempt:

Base Magical Damage * 10%(DoT Effective Multiplier) * (1 + 6.25%*Additional_AP) * (1 + Prof/200) * (1 + Prof/1000) * (1 + Dark_EDB/100) * (1 + Arcane_Focus) * (1 + Stamina_Bonus) * (1 + Bubble_Gum) * Assumed:[ (1 + Hath_Bonus) * (1 + Flower_Vase)]
No Critical Hit or Channeling Bonus

Spreading Poison in-game description is now: "...and eliminates it's evade chance." So -100% now?

Bubble Gum's damage modifier is +100% both phys.&mag. In-game description states such and effect matches.

Imperil is -50% Phys./Mag. & -50(Fire/Cold/Elec/Wind) at any AP investment, only the duration changes.

Backstab's Poison Attempt:
Base Physical Damage * 0.1%(DoT Effective Multiplier) * (1 + Spirit_Stance) * (1 + Heartseeker) * (1 + Stamina_Bonus) * (1 + Title_Bonus) * Assumed:[(1 + Bubble_Gum) * (1 + Hath_Bonus) * (1 + Flower_Vase)]
It's either rounded multiple time, there is another modifier I couldn't find, or the DoT modifer is slightly off. Not much I can do though when the final damage values were 2, 3, 4, 5 , and 7 damage per turn.

Still off slightly from my numbers. But not by much.

Also, did you test holy/dark/soul with imperil?

Still off slightly from my numbers. But not by much.

Also, did you test holy/dark/soul with imperil?

Yes, used infusions to get physical-holy/dark/soul damage, then added Penetrated Armor to ignore the phys. mitigation of Imperil. No difference in damage range.

Did you double check that with an elemental infusion? Just asking cause maybe infusions work differently then spells when it comes to damage.

This post has been edited by skillchip: May 26 2012, 21:04

Did you double check that with an elemental infusion? Just asking cause maybe infusions work differently then spells when it comes to damage.

Yes, the 4 elements still get a damage boost from imperil when penetrated armor is already present.

Good enough for me!

And it should make figuring out the original monsters resistances much easier. That is still something not known perfectly.

This post has been edited by skillchip: May 26 2012, 21:20

I still don't have the duration of Scroll of Life...

I think we have that a long time ago...45 rounds.

Upon the new patch, the following information is needed:

Monster skills at PL 200/400. Need skill type, damage type and power for every monster type.

This post has been edited by varst: Jun 10 2012, 19:32

Updated Arenas page. Please check if you have any problems with the new layout.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Arena