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May 12 2012, 12:36
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varst
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QUOTE(kjeron @ May 12 2012, 18:30)  Another thing I couldn't test, thanks
That's some important part. I will try again tonight with some cross-testing.
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May 12 2012, 14:25
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kjeron
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Actually it looks like I did test Dark EDB, just didn't realize it. Dark Infusion is treated the same a another piece of Dark EDB, and stacks additively same as equipment. So with that, its:
Spreading_Poison = Base_Magical_Damage * 13.5%(@5AP) * (1 + Prof/200) * (1 + Stamina_Bonus) * (1 + Arcane_Focus) * (1 + Dark_EDB/100) No bonus from Channeling or Title Dark Infusion provides +25 Dark EDB. Haven't test: Hath_Bonus, Flower_Vase, Bubble_Gum
This post has been edited by kjeron: May 12 2012, 14:46
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May 12 2012, 17:15
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varst
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Unless I've mistaken some of your assumptions, the formula seems to miss the target by a fair amount at higher levels. 
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May 12 2012, 17:34
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skillchip
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QUOTE(kjeron @ May 12 2012, 12:25)  Actually it looks like I did test Dark EDB, just didn't realize it. Dark Infusion is treated the same a another piece of Dark EDB, and stacks additively same as equipment. So with that, its:
Spreading_Poison = Base_Magical_Damage * 13.5%(@5AP) * (1 + Prof/200) * (1 + Stamina_Bonus) * (1 + Arcane_Focus) * (1 + Dark_EDB/100) No bonus from Channeling or Title Dark Infusion provides +25 Dark EDB. Haven't test: Hath_Bonus, Flower_Vase, Bubble_Gum
Still doesn't seem to quite fit for me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Varst, can I borrow some demon-fiend, curse-weaver, and fenrir? This post has been edited by skillchip: May 12 2012, 17:35
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May 12 2012, 17:42
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varst
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Okay, after some Regression the MDB and EDB factor seems to be correct. And no, forbidden prof has nothing to do with the damage. So now it's the god damn poison factor and the total percentage factor.
Skillchip, give me a minute.
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May 12 2012, 17:47
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skillchip
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Yeah I am pretty sure forbidden isn't part of it. Just wanted to check to make sure, but if you did then I don't have to worry about it.
So MDM/100 and EDB/200 is right?
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May 12 2012, 18:10
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varst
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Sent you equips for testing. Don't have full curse-weaver though.
It should be (Base MDB) * (1+EDB/100), as shown in the character statistics.
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May 12 2012, 18:13
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skillchip
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Ok, so we need to figure the prof factor, and the poison factor.
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May 12 2012, 18:21
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varst
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I tried to use regression, but the factor I got is ugly. Something like (1+ x/11.2)/69
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May 12 2012, 20:45
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skillchip
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I think its not linear, I have a headache now so I am taking a break now.
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May 12 2012, 21:15
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kjeron
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I'm always surprised by how much I miss. Unfortunately that's all I can contribute, my equipment is too limited and the numbers still too small at my level to be any more accurate.
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May 12 2012, 21:33
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varst
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Nah, you gave us insights on multiple occasions. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Just a special case that the formula's more complex than its descriptions. Judging from the scaling factors from other players, I start to think if it's in quadratic/other forms. But the trend line of my data looks so god damn straight...
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May 12 2012, 21:41
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skillchip
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Watch it be something like the old regen formula: 1+prof/100+prof^2/200 or some shit
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May 13 2012, 03:19
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nooneshome
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Sorry about me being a newbie. (English not my first language) To further help out those unfamiliar with the series and the chart, this should be posted in the wiki.
How to identify ponies during Riddle Masters? First, look at the ponies' head. Is there a horn? If yes, identify the hair style. If hair is curly, the answer is Rarity. If hair is straight, the answer is Twilight Sparkle.
Second, if the pony has no horn. Is there wing? If yes, identify hair style. If hair is pointy, the answer is Rainbow Dash. If hair is flowing, the answer is Fluttershy. For extra confirmation, identify the symbol near the tail. If symbol is butterflies, it is Fluttershy. If symbol is cloud with rainbow-lightning, it is Rainbow Dash.
Third, if the pony has no horn and no wing. Identify hair style. If hair is curly, the answer is Pinkie Pie. If hair is not curly, the answer is Apple Jack. For extra confirmation, Apple Jack wears a hat. (Error margin is 0.10) For extra extra confirmation, identify the symbol near the tail. If symbol is balloons, it is Pinkie Pie. If symbol is apples, it is Apple Jack.
Hopefully, this will be helpful, and the Riddle Master can stop taking away Stamina.
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May 13 2012, 06:40
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varst
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No. That won't be added into wiki since there is already a ponychart
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May 13 2012, 08:39
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HaliZorat
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So I just noticed Backstab still has 66% Poison listed, when I've mentioned twice later on that I seem to be getting ~50% instead. Did you guys miss that or was there not enough evidence to back it up? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Also, I think you can remove "and deals additional poison damage." from Backstab as well. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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May 13 2012, 08:46
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varst
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Seems I missed that. Usually I'm not the one who add testing data into wiki(unless the experiment can be successfully repeated by others) Changed that accordingly.
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May 20 2012, 22:55
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kakashi888andneji2
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quick questions: 1) when is your user- created monster able to battle? my flareon is powerlevel3 and still has not battled. 2) how long does it take for the arena challenges to finish cooldown?
help would be much appreciated.
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May 21 2012, 00:16
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(kakashi888andneji2 @ May 20 2012, 12:55)  quick questions: 1) when is your user- created monster able to battle? my flareon is powerlevel3 and still has not battled.
PL 1. It probably has fought but hasn't won because it's too weak. QUOTE 2) how long does it take for the arena challenges to finish cooldown?
Until the next dawn.
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May 21 2012, 00:19
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kakashi888andneji2
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thank you so much.
namastay.
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