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The problem with that is most people fail to specify what they want done. Some bounties basically say "TRANSLATE THISSS!!!", which can cause problems like people misunderstanding it and trying to use an already done gallery and so on (not all mind you, but some)

And I don't know about translators, but there seems to be a real shortage of editors around here. Seriously, it feels like i'm the only editor that works the bounties. You would that with all the people in the comments that go like "Ohh!, someone should bounty this!" they'd go like "Wait a sec, if I do some edits, I can gain the funds to bounty that!", followed by a forehead slap.

Well, if the bounty posters don't specify what exactly they're looking for in a tl/edit, then whatever they get is what they get even if it's not what they expected and try to dispute it. Simple as that. Those kinds of people won't go away.

Seriously, it feels like i'm the only editor that works the bounties.

I think you are lol. You've accepted so many bounties as an editor that anybody who has a script from a bounty comes to you whether you initially wanted to do the editing or not.

You would that with all the people in the comments that go like "Ohh!, someone should bounty this!" they'd go like "Wait a sec, if I do some edits, I can gain the funds to bounty that!", followed by a forehead slap.

That's why I thought having a separate section for editing bounties would be a good idea, as it'd be like HUGE advertisement saying, "Hey look at me! Edit me already, damnit!"

I think you are lol. You've accepted so many bounties as an editor that anybody who has a script from a bounty comes to you whether you initially wanted to do the editing or not.

Indeed. SS used to accept a lot of translation bounties that required both translation & editing with offers to do editing for a portion of the reward, but I don't think he does that anymore now. He also snapped up the editing bounties much faster than Speedy Gonzales could run. I never had a chance when I was new to editing last year.

Hopefully once I've taken care of RL issues and clear my own editing backlog over the next few weeks I'll be able to do editing bounties again now that SS has, ah, slowed down somewhat. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) But then again, I'm more partial to cleaning/editing/redrawing than typesetting - for some reason typesetting part is the most tedious task for me, even though it's supposed to be the simplest task to do.

This post has been edited by lightshader: Oct 18 2011, 04:59

Till recently we had a translator shortage, and SS was able to keep up with everything. The recent backlog, while annoying (I have 4-5 scripts waiting for being edited) is still much preferable to the old periods of "nothing translated, nothing to edit...".

As glad as I am to hear that LS will help out, we have room for at least one more person on the editing team... (I could also push for more Chinese translators if not for this backlog...).

I'm going to weigh in and say that I'd like to see an "Editing" bounty section to go with the "Translation" and "Standard" sections.

I'd like to see that section too. The one way it would really work though is to have some unofficial system as to what to actually put out for an edit job. Like, what would be a decent amount to pay someone to edit? A percentage of what the translation bounty was? What if they payed someone in cash for the translation, or what if they translated it themself?.... In my personal opinion, I think it would be "fair" to pay the editor at least 40-50% of what the translator got if it was in seperate bounties, aside from the ones that they decide to work out themselves.

Mainly, that one page that would take a translation 5-10 minutes (or less) to translate could take (even a good editor) a couple hours of labor to do clean (neatly) if not more. Transparent bubbles like THIS are a pain in the dick. I could probably recreate all the graphics of that fancy font in english (or any typeset language really) in less time it take to clean one page of that.... Moving on, I sometimes think the manga artist does that stuff not so much because it looks pretty, but on purpose just to fuck with the people that plan to scanlate it (it would make sense).

Moving on, I sometimes think the manga artist does that stuff not so much because it looks pretty, but on purpose just to fuck with the people that plan to scanlate it (it would make sense).

Lol... you mean like this? I find this amazingly hot, but dear god I'd be covering up half of each page if I tried to translate and edit it.

It seems that Ten just implemented the ability to look at more than just Top 10.

It seems that Ten just implemented the ability to look at more than just Top 10.

Not only that, but apparently we also now have ability to edit our bounties now. Huzzah!

This post has been edited by lightshader: Feb 20 2012, 00:13

I think it'd be great if something akin to "on watch" list feature were implemented. As it stands right now, the only way to keep track of bounties you're interested (but not sponsoring or doing) is to accept the bounty - which may give any potential bounty hunters a mistaken impression that it's being worked on.

And I don't know about translators, but there seems to be a real shortage of editors around here. Seriously, it feels like i'm the only editor that works the bounties. You would that with all the people in the comments that go like "Ohh!, someone should bounty this!" they'd go like "Wait a sec, if I do some edits, I can gain the funds to bounty that!", followed by a forehead slap.

I'm an editor, but my group that I work with prefers to do a doujin from start to finish, which a lot of bounties we look at on e-hentai unfortunately don't permit us to do. Full edit bounties that we like are bloody rare.
I do understand the system is like this because some editors are complete garbage, though. I won't deny it.

I think it'd be great if something akin to "on watch" list feature were implemented. As it stands right now, the only way to keep track of bounties you're interested (but not sponsoring or doing) is to accept the bounty - which may give any potential bounty hunters a mistaken impression that it's being worked on.

I just bookmark them and check once a week, it's not fancy, its not automagic, but it works for now...

This post has been edited by Empathy: May 22 2012, 23:12

I'm an editor, but my group that I work with prefers to do a doujin from start to finish, which a lot of bounties we look at on e-hentai unfortunately don't permit us to do. Full edit bounties that we like are bloody rare.

That's only because alot of translators don't like to do the edits too. I don't know alot of freelance translators that do everything. If they (the bounty holders) find someone(s) who will to do both, then I doubt they'd mind.

This post has been edited by Super Shanko: May 23 2012, 04:47

What Super Shanko said. ^

I find that translation bounties are more likely to be done if translation and editing are split off, as not every translator would be willing to edit. I certainly wouldn't mind if the translator wants to do editing as well.

So should I approach said bounties by contacting the bounty owner? A lot of them are worded like "bounty cannot be filled by a completed edit" or something along those lines. Is it typical to mention we will edit, submit the TL, then get a seperate bounty for edit later?

Oh, we'll that's just me (do my own editing) mainly. Maybe like 10% of the people on here do their own edits.

This post has been edited by Super Shanko: May 23 2012, 08:29

So should I approach said bounties by contacting the bounty owner? A lot of them are worded like "bounty cannot be filled by a completed edit" or something along those lines. Is it typical to mention we will edit, submit the TL, then get a seperate bounty for edit later?

I don't know in general, but for bounties I participate in there's always a forum thread for the bounty, and you could post an offer in there. Then, if everyone agrees, it shouldn't be a problem to close a bounty and open another one, for translation+edit, for more, which you'd then accept.

The system should generate expiration warnings for accepts. Some reliable people accept bounties for long term (ex. piotr012 and SS translations); then they expire and new people can get confused thinking this is a fully open bounty.

Should be easy to do, as the system is already set up to generate some bounty expiration warnings.

Personally, I'd like to see the following:
* history of "accepted" preserved, not erased
* gallery-like commenting added, with PM notifications (this needs to be added to regular galleries, too...)
* most importantly, the bounties should be editable (or have specific fields that are, my most common mistake that means I have to cancel and resubmit the bounty is providing the wrong gallery link, forum thread link, or title of the gallery/bounty (or forgetting some of those components at all).

There are pretty much the things I would see as someone who tries to fill in scanning bounties.
I'm pretty clueless when it comes to titles so I use cover pictures to figure out what series is the doujinshi about.

I came to realize that some legitimate new potential bounty translators/editors and such can be scared off by a troll's blue bounty accept. They think the bounty is taken, and move on.

Therefore:
* can we make accepting a bounty cost 500c or such? Nothing major, but enough to mak most trolls go away?
* can we turn on bounty acceptance PM notification?
* can we give the bounty poster the ability to cancel the bounty acceptances?

I came to realize that some legitimate new potential bounty translators/editors and such can be scared off by a troll's blue bounty accept. They think the bounty is taken, and move on.

Therefore:
* can we make accepting a bounty cost 500c or such? Nothing major, but enough to mak most trolls go away?
* can we turn on bounty acceptance PM notification?
* can we give the bounty poster the ability to cancel the bounty acceptances?

#2 is fine, but for the trouble of getting a PM from every acceptance, the acceptance should be higher like 1-5,000C's. 3 is good too, but I think lowering the acceptance time to like 3-7 days would work better instead of a month with a Pm telling them their acceptance has expired. Or how about making it where they have to leave a comment. Most of the time genuine claimers put something saying they're gonna do it as opposed to regular schmucks passing through.