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I learned from John Stewart about some new legislation that would make it easy for the US government to indefinitely detain US citizens without trial as part of the war on terror.

This is why I don't like having opinions.

I learned that MW3 is whack... Same shit as MW2, shoulda saved my 60 bucks...

I learned from John Stewart about some new legislation that would make it easy for the US government to indefinitely detain US citizens without trial as part of the war on terror.

The Green Lantern?

I learned that FourThirteen learns his knowledge from super heroes.

I learned that MW3 is whack... Same shit as MW2, shoulda saved my 60 bucks...

Bummer.

So, then, no. Thanks for wasting my time.

No thanks for trying to make me waste mine.

Nice double standard. It's honestly not my fault that you were trying to base your argument about something in reality by using an example grounded in fantasy, anecdotally or otherwise. If you're not going to even try, then why bother even attempting it in the first place?

What made you think I was directing my explanations to you personally?

I'd be more receptive of other people's opinions and ideas if they were able to divulge and explain their point of view by relaying facts or anecdotal evidence. What you think of the matter isn't important in any way except to create the conversation by referencing your position.

Hyperbolics, faulty analogies and minced words don't do anything to the viewpoints of the people involved except waste their time and energy. Cut the bureaucratic nonsense and get down to brass tacks. Discuss the issue, not the circumstances. Detail what's currently going on, and if that leads to a discussion of where things will go naturally, then so be it, but none of this pressing the issue, taking a minor situation and debasing it to such a point where it's just theoretics and theatrics and hysteria doesn't do anything to broach the topic, it creates ire which is another gigantic waste of time and energy.

It just seems that no one knows how to debate properly because everyone wants to express their opinions as facts, and not as opinions, which is just absolutely egregious and ignorant. It's like most people just jump to the extremes of the situation so easily, especially in topics that aren't black and white, ones that aren't made for extremes. The ignorance of the gray areas is devastating to me, because the gray areas? That's where the solutions lie.

So if I'm in the wrong for wanting the discussion to work toward a solution or a goal and not be a bunch of mind crippling back and forth nonsense that doesn't enlighten or motivate, then so be it. Feel free to flail around like idiots and malcontents but we can all see where that will get us.

You seem to be completely missing the fact that we're not a bunch of philosophers whose sole purpose in life is to get to the bottom of such ideas, who have their whole life to devote to it, and who get paid to do it. Such people have written books on the subject, with well-thought, persuasive arguments. I advertise the general outline of the picture they paint, but if you want to get the real professionally prepared information on this, go find the authors, research the idea yourself. Asking for everything on a silver platter won't make you interested in the problem in any way, if you weren't before, won't give you clearest explanations available, only these I am capable of. I don't feel capable of explaining the basics of what my viewpoint consists of as clearly as the best in the field, I certainly don't enjoy it as much as they do, and I have limited amount of free time in a day.

You call what I wrote hysteria, try to be an authority on what is and isn't a minor situation. That's debating properly? Care to spend few hours on getting down to brass tacks and explaining what you mean, instead of relying on hyperbolics? Be my guest.

You accuse me of portraying a situation in shades of gray as black or white, when I speak plainly about the most basic of human rights, freedom of individual, being violated with no trial and no basis in law. There's no gray in Bradley Manning's situation, they have the right to accuse him, to try to convict him, and if they succeed, *then* to jail him. Not the other way around. What is being done is a crime committed by US government, but people responsible have enough power not only to escape the responsibility, not only to muffle the public, but to fool the public into thinking it's normal situation. I wonder why people in US are surprised Chinese and Russians don't do anything to overthrow their government - the answer is, they got so used to being abused, they consider it normal and just, and think there's no other way in the world. That's what I see US becoming, year by year.

Well, another 30 minutes gone, and I know you're wise enough to know all this already, and I guess you like to make me waste time. Say what, why don't you give me some link (to avoid a long reply) that would make me think the model of reality as I traced it here is not the most probable one?

I'd be more receptive of other people's opinions and ideas if they were able to divulge and explain their point of view by relaying facts or anecdotal evidence. What you think of the matter isn't important in any way except to create the conversation by referencing your position.

Ironic you should post this, you are the one more guilty of it than I am. Always thinking your opinion to be the law. If someone says even the slightest thing you disagree with, by god they MUST be stupid. Someone tells a joke not in your taste, by god they MUST be retarded. Someone is not a carbon copy of you then they MUST be horrible people. You treat people like shit because your life is shit and yet you portray the attitude of being better than everyone. Whether you notice it or not, that is the attitude that comes across from your posts and I KNOW I can get many people to agree with this one.

Hyperbolics, faulty analogies and minced words don't do anything to the viewpoints of the people involved except waste their time and energy. Cut the bureaucratic nonsense and get down to brass tacks. Discuss the issue, not the circumstances. Detail what's currently going on, and if that leads to a discussion of where things will go naturally, then so be it, but none of this pressing the issue, taking a minor situation and debasing it to such a point where it's just theoretics and theatrics and hysteria doesn't do anything to broach the topic, it creates ire which is another gigantic waste of time and energy.

It just seems that no one knows how to debate properly because everyone wants to express their opinions as facts, and not as opinions, which is just absolutely egregious and ignorant. It's like most people just jump to the extremes of the situation so easily, especially in topics that aren't black and white, ones that aren't made for extremes. The ignorance of the gray areas is devastating to me, because the gray areas? That's where the solutions lie.

Because I shouldn't have to tell you to look up things like the 1963 March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom, the Executive Order 8802 of 1941, the Montgomery Bus Boycott, the Grangers, the massive protest against Vietnam that swayed opinion in the Congress to withdraw, the entire civil rights, gay rights, and women's rights movements. This is all shit you should know already, you've graduated from high school I'm sure. I guess we can just go back and tell people like Rosa Parks and Marthin Luther King Jr. to stop complaining because they aren't going to change anything. This is all recent in history, and we won't be able to analyze these current protests and their effects until the future. It takes time to see what happens. Either way, your general disregard of protesting in today's society just shows that either you are TRULY that stupid (which, to be honest, I don't think you are stupid, maybe misguided, but not stupid) or your personal life is so shitty that your negativity bleeds through and paints some darkly tinted glasses for your view at life.

So if I'm in the wrong for wanting the discussion to work toward a solution or a goal and not be a bunch of mind crippling back and forth nonsense that doesn't enlighten or motivate, then so be it. Feel free to flail around like idiots and malcontents but we can all see where that will get us.

Raising awareness of topics ALONE is moving towards change. It's steady progress towards enlightening generations. Change might not come about immediately, but in a generation or two, if you properly guide the young ones, anything is possible. This isn't just flailing about like 'idiots and malcontents', there is plenty of power in simply making your voice heard to the people in power. Take some stats and psych classes, or just go out and take a look at some protests, sit down at a PTA meeting, attend one of your city hall meetings, participate in a local club that advocates change, make a speech about the injustices in your community, stop and talk to random police officers and ask them if they know the penal code about something that concerns you and your family (I did it for a while about open-carry, but Assembly Bill 144 struck down another one of our rights). Voicing your opinion and raising awareness about a subject is, in fact, the only viable option in creating change for all of us proletariat. It's never going to be perfect, and there will be collateral damage from time to time, but the government can only push it's people around long enough before they start to push back. You say this to me as if I'm just spitting nonsense on the internet to try to convince YOU of my viewpoint. While I would like for you to see the sense in my argument it is not my sole area of experience in bringing about change.

Today in the shower, I learned that the generic soap I bought to save a few bucks was not a good substitute for my regular soap and I'll never buy generic soap again.

That Hemingway and Faulkner were about as similar as oil is to water in the modernism movement.

The Green Lantern?

I learned that FourThirteen learns his knowledge from super heroes.

Fuck, I did it again.

Another short example of how US government agencies don't give a shit about laws they want others to uphold: [www.techdirt.com] http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111208/...l-details.shtml
I don't expect they will be held responsible for this precisely because the US system is only masquerading for democracy nowadays, much like China, Russia and North Korea (People's Republic of).

To be more careful when cleaning a george foremen grill

There's a Lunar Eclipse ongoing right now, & it's clearly visible from my home.
Will have to wait 10 years later before the next visible one occurs over my home's night sky.

I learned that I missed a lunar eclipse.

Also, today is Evil_Scorpio's birthday!!!

This post has been edited by suta: Dec 12 2011, 07:09

I learned that I don't give a fuck as if it was part of my OCD cosymptoms.

Ironic isn't it?

Well, according to Tomb Raider, Vikings went to Thailand long before anyone was there, and then Indians from India followed.
Although reading on Wiki (I know, hilarious) it said that Vikings may have went as far as India, indeed. That's messed up. I know Drakkars are epic, but Christ.

I learned how to fix my heater

learned how to drive to kbbq location

I learned this today:
[en.wikipedia.org] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick#Terminology

A confidence trick is also (non-exhaustively) known as a con game, con, scam, ... bunko, ...

Suddenly, his name makes so much sense...

Fuchs is pronounced FYOOSH as in fuchsia.

Fuchs is pronounced FYOOSH as in fuchsia.

Actually, it's pronounced FUCKS.