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post Aug 13 2011, 22:10
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So any news on this?

May I ask for a refund to make up for all my lost EXP? A pair of legendary phase pants of niflheim will do (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Aug 13 2011, 23:34
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QUOTE(Ballistic9 @ Aug 13 2011, 22:50) *

Is the posting bonus instant?

It's not, but the delay is about 30~40 min.
You see I have waitted for 1 hour.
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post Aug 14 2011, 01:35
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A pair of legendary phase pants of niflheim will do


legendary katana of slaughter will be fine
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post Aug 14 2011, 10:51
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I've tested it, and it is not bugged.
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post Aug 14 2011, 15:48
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 14 2011, 10:51) *

I've tested it, and it is not bugged.


About thirty players read this post,so they reset EXP tank to zero.finally they gain the same exp.

Wish u have a big nose.
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post Aug 14 2011, 15:54
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I would test myself but it is to much work reactivating all my skills. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

I wish there was a skill all Button.
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post Aug 14 2011, 17:50
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QUOTE(futaria @ Aug 14 2011, 15:48) *
About thirty players read this post,so they reset EXP tank to zero.finally they gain the same exp.


Really? List those thirty names please.

In case you missed it, any changes to the EXP bonuses can take up to an hour to take effect. And when I "test" it I don't just do an anecdotal quick spin around HV without knowing if stuff has updated or not; I plug it into my testbench, add 1000 base EXP, and see what exactly gets written to the database. It works.
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post Aug 14 2011, 20:56
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Gave it a try since I was planning an Ability Tree revamp anyway.
  • 14.40: 12 points into EXP Tank;
  • 15.50: Started Grindfest. Results:
    • Bunko (187), Lou Lupus (191) → 26761.68 EXP
    • 4everlost (190), Seiya (188) → 17976.31 EXP
    • Aisaka Taiga (189), Mare S Ephemeral (187) → 21093.88 EXP
    • Bunko (189), Segata Sanshiro (190) → 24514.86 EXP
    • Hrungnir (187), Airmoto San (190) → 18953.75 EXP
    • Conquest101 (188), Lou Lupus (187) → 23928.42 EXP
    • Tsuruya (192), The Silent Chief (191) → 24204.2 EXP
    • Randomly Generated Maze (187), Wretched Egg (190) → 24620.64 EXP
    • Airmoto San (192), Lina Inverse (192) → 19909.42 EXP
    • Average: 22440.4 EXP
  • 16.00: Reset Ability Tree;
  • 17.10: Started Grindfest (0 points in EXP Tank). Results:
    • Cygnus (189), Bunko (192) → 27053.62 EXP
    • Segata Sanshiro (191), Freudia Neuwahl (188) → 22297.83 EXP
    • Mother Monster (191), Hastur (187) → 21926.78 EXP
    • Miyako (188), Ichy (190) → 23712.62 EXP
    • Homu Homu (187), Noble Scarlet (190) → 15681.15 EXP
    • Reinhard Von Lohengramm (190), Evil (192) → 19023.53 EXP
    • Breast Implants Of Lara Croft (190), Pirate Bird (188) → 20965.2 EXP
    • Guanliyuan (190), Vibgyor (191) → 17766.74 EXP
    • Mother Monster (187), Holy Bell (188) → 28703.52 EXP
    • Average: 24641.4
  • 17.25: 18 points into EXP Tank;
  • 18.40: Started Grindfest. Results:
    • Fat Bottomed Girls (190), Skwisgaar Skwigelf (191) → 23411.11 EXP
    • Vanguard (189), Fumoffu (190) → 19085.23 EXP
    • Typist (191), Skwisgaar Skwigelf (187) → 23964.16 EXP
    • Typist (188), Bunko (189) → 25118.59 EXP
    • Holy Bell (187), Randomly Generated Maze (188) → 25128.35 EXP
    • Tsuruya (190), Sakamoto Mio (187) → 23134.91 EXP
    • Useless (191), Sonshi (191) → 22626.08 EXP
    • Holy Bell (191), Chibi Ryu (188) → 26464.57 EXP
    • Seiya (190), The Tit Fairy (191) → 16612.62 EXP
    • Average: 22838.4

Everything was done on great status, if it helps.
Maybe it's not supposed to work on Grindfest?
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post Aug 14 2011, 22:14
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Just fighting a few random monsters doesn't really tell you that much, and there are other factors at play as well. Keep in mind that it'll just increase your overall EXP bonus by 54, which can be overshadowed by the posting bonus alone.
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post Aug 15 2011, 02:23
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Sorry I have not saw your answer before.
I cancel this request

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post Aug 15 2011, 02:33
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 14 2011, 23:50) *

Really? List those thirty names please.

In case you missed it, any changes to the EXP bonuses can take up to an hour to take effect. And when I "test" it I don't just do an anecdotal quick spin around HV without knowing if stuff has updated or not; I plug it into my testbench, add 1000 base EXP, and see what exactly gets written to the database. It works.


Maybe the display of exp gain bugged? Or the bonus from this ability is not so obvious from the beginning?
By the explanation it should boosts all received EXP by 3% for each AP.
Then there should be a very obvious change for 51 APs.
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post Aug 15 2011, 04:47
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 14 2011, 09:50) *

Really? List those thirty names please.

In case you missed it, any changes to the EXP bonuses can take up to an hour to take effect. And when I "test" it I don't just do an anecdotal quick spin around HV without knowing if stuff has updated or not; I plug it into my testbench, add 1000 base EXP, and see what exactly gets written to the database. It works.

How about you just go into their profiles, plug their information(AL, aura, posts,exp tank) and a 200+ level Manbearpig into your exp equation, get the two results(with/without exp tank), then post the results, let them check if they are close.
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post Aug 15 2011, 05:10
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 14 2011, 13:14) *

the posting bonus

I misread that as the posting anus.


soda + caffeine + scrolling by posts really fast = (IMG:[i25.lulzimg.com] http://i25.lulzimg.com/806129.gif)
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post Aug 15 2011, 07:28
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If you really want to test it do it this way:

1. wait for dawn Event.
2. Post nothing.
3. Start up some Grindfests and write down the EXP and Monster level for 1vs1 battles only. Do a lot of them.
4. Delete EXP tanks.
5. wait 2 hours just to be safe.
6. Go to Grindfets and and try to get a 1vs1 against the same monsters and same level.
7. Compare results.

@ wing130083: Don`t forget you already get Bonus EXP from Auras so a few extra% might not be that much.
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post Aug 15 2011, 08:43
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QUOTE(Tenseigamoon @ Aug 15 2011, 09:10) *

I misread that as the posting anus.
soda + caffeine + scrolling by posts really fast = (IMG:[i25.lulzimg.com] http://i25.lulzimg.com/806129.gif)

32k messages....you have a really big posting anus bonus! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Aug 15 2011, 11:09
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QUOTE(wing130083 @ Aug 15 2011, 02:33) *
Maybe the display of exp gain bugged? Or the bonus from this ability is not so obvious from the beginning?
By the explanation it should boosts all received EXP by 3% for each AP.
Then there should be a very obvious change for 51 APs.


It's not a separate +3% bonus. It adds 3 percentage points to the general EXP bonus. There is a major difference.

Auras and Hath Perks are each a separate bonus. EXP Tanks, trainings, toplist bonuses and posting bonuses are summed into one bonus.
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post Aug 15 2011, 11:41
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Do spectral auras count as hath perks or auras? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post Aug 15 2011, 12:22
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 15 2011, 01:09) *

It's not a separate +3% bonus. It adds 3 percentage points to the general EXP bonus. There is a major difference.

Auras and Hath Perks are each a separate bonus. EXP Tanks, trainings, toplist bonuses and posting bonuses are summed into one bonus.



If 39 points of experience bonus are set up, how many extra percentage of experience we would gain by killing monsters?

Is it possibly doubled the experience we gain from battle? Or just very little enhancement?
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post Aug 15 2011, 13:27
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QUOTE(Ballistic9 @ Aug 15 2011, 11:41) *
Do spectral auras count as hath perks or auras? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)


Auras. When I says "hath perks" I mean the direct EXP bonus ones.

QUOTE(sandmaning @ Aug 15 2011, 12:22) *
If 39 points of experience bonus are set up, how many extra percentage of experience we would gain by killing monsters?

Is it possibly doubled the experience we gain from battle? Or just very little enhancement?


That all depends on what other bonuses you have. If you already have say +100% from trainings, +100% from toplists and +100% from posts for a total of +300%, getting a +100% bonus from the ability tree will just increase that further to 400%, it won't double the EXP gained. But, if you have no other bonuses, it will.
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post Aug 15 2011, 13:58
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 15 2011, 03:27) *

That all depends on what other bonuses you have. If you already have say +100% from trainings, +100% from toplists and +100% from posts for a total of +300%, getting a +100% bonus from the ability tree will just increase that further to 400%, it won't double the EXP gained. But, if you have no other bonuses, it will.


In your case, can we say that the EXP gain from battle will boost at least 33% (100%/300%) if getting a +117% bonus from the ability tree? (39 points of EXP bonus = 39 X 3% = 117%)

Please note that 33% boost of EXP gain should be an significant difference, while the testings result so far cannot support this difference.

It won't be accurate, hopes it makes scene.

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