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I hate side stories, especially the plain ones & near to the season finale >:[

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It would certainly serve Hasbro right for screwing up a good show

Hey shitlords, I knew a bunch of you would get all bent out of shape to see that the MLP game got canned by Hasbro and also that changes were being made by Hasbro to the show, so I'm making a quick appearance. I work for that company now and see more MLP shit on a daily basis than I honestly care to. Hate to break it to you but the Brony population isn't on the radar at all when it comes to being considered, hell, I had to actually explain to a few people what it even was.

With lines like Marvel and Star Wars there is always going to be a bunch of cheap toys made that kids will like but the adult collectors are never forgotten. For every 2.99 Yoda from the Clone Wars TV show, there will be some mega bundle of detailed figures made for Comic Con for adults. Both demographics sell and both demographics want different things. With MLP it sells with just one; little girls.

Sure, you all like the show and enjoy the fan base and creations, but you by and large don't plop down money on the toys. At the end of the day that's what the show is and will be to Hasbro; an opportunity to make money. Hate it or not but that's the only reason the show exists. The HUB is where the show is aired and that channel is owned by Hasbro so it really is just a glorified advertising network to sell toys.

Bitching and complaining won't get you anywhere, you need to actually show the suits that you are a viable demographic worth catering to. Did you see the news recently where people made a big deal out of not getting gender neutral colors for the EZ Bake Oven? Now one is being produced. So if you want Hasbro to give you some more leniency with the property, show that you can actually affect the bottom line. So long as the sales are only little girls, the property is going to only cater to them and protect that image.

Hey shitlords, I knew a bunch of you would get all bent out of shape to see that the MLP game got canned by Hasbro and also that changes were being made by Hasbro to the show, so I'm making a quick appearance. I work for that company now and see more MLP shit on a daily basis than I honestly care to. Hate to break it to you but the Brony population isn't on the radar at all when it comes to being considered, hell, I had to actually explain to a few people what it even was.

With lines like Marvel and Star Wars there is always going to be a bunch of cheap toys made that kids will like but the adult collectors are never forgotten. For every 2.99 Yoda from the Clone Wars TV show, there will be some mega bundle of detailed figures made for Comic Con for adults. Both demographics sell and both demographics want different things. With MLP it sells with just one; little girls.

Sure, you all like the show and enjoy the fan base and creations, but you by and large don't plop down money on the toys. At the end of the day that's what the show is and will be to Hasbro; an opportunity to make money. Hate it or not but that's the only reason the show exists. The HUB is where the show is aired and that channel is owned by Hasbro so it really is just a glorified advertising network to sell toys.

Bitching and complaining won't get you anywhere, you need to actually show the suits that you are a viable demographic worth catering to. Did you see the news recently where people made a big deal out of not getting gender neutral colors for the EZ Bake Oven? Now one is being produced. So if you want Hasbro to give you some more leniency with the property, show that you can actually affect the bottom line. So long as the sales are only little girls, the property is going to only cater to them and protect that image.

Query - If it only sells to little girls, please explain the reasoning behind the Doctor figure they made, or the various Derpy figures, or the merchandise I've seen that actually has 'Bronies' listed in the item information. If they only care about little girls, then why do they bother to acknowledge the fan names, at least given my understanding that the fan names are generally products of th adult community, not the young ones.

Further, if their target demographic is littl girls...then why in the nine hells did they care about Fighting is Magic? If they planned to put out their own fighting game, well, I could understand. But as is, its just a bloody dick move. They want to make Princess Twilight to appeal to little girls, fair enough. But a fighting game doesn't impact them in the slightest, and interfering with it only pisses people off while producing no clear gain for them.

Further further...I call question on your claim that the adult fans aren't an issue, that people aren't aware of them. I'll acknowledge that posibility in general, that certain segments are unaware of it. But the contention that it isn't considered at all...causes me to question the validty of all statements you make. Its fairly apparent, given their appearance at the damned conventions, their tweets, and other issues, that the people directly involved in the running of the show are aware of things. The higher-ups, perhaps not.

So...yeah, I believe I just called you a liar, an idiot, or both. Please clarify which combination is most valid, and then go bugger off as I realized I don't care; you opened with an insult, why the devil should we care one wit about what you say?

Unrelated note - Does anyone know if Mane6 got a cease and desist letter, or order? Apparently, its a rather significant difference, but their website refuses to work properly for me.

Query - If it only sells to little girls, please explain the reasoning behind the Doctor figure they made, or the various Derpy figures, or the merchandise I've seen that actually has 'Bronies' listed in the item information. If they only care about little girls, then why do they bother to acknowledge the fan names, at least given my understanding that the fan names are generally products of th adult community, not the young ones.

Because it was thought that you might actually be a demographic to be sold to. This is how the business works. Someone saw that there was an interest from somewhere and thought they would try to capitalize on it. But once it was tried, it was pretty much seen as a bust. That adult community seemed like it was a good group to go after but sales showed that it wasn't. Hence the change now.

Further, if their target demographic is littl girls...then why in the nine hells did they care about Fighting is Magic? If they planned to put out their own fighting game, well, I could understand. But as is, its just a bloody dick move. They want to make Princess Twilight to appeal to little girls, fair enough. But a fighting game doesn't impact them in the slightest, and interfering with it only pisses people off while producing no clear gain for them.

One word: image. Seeing cute ponies from a TV show in a fighting game hurts it's image. You may argue that this game would be relegated to the dark corners of the internet and you are probably right, but that's not a risk a higher up wants to take on possibly soiling the property's image.

Further further...I call question on your claim that the adult fans aren't an issue, that people aren't aware of them. I'll acknowledge that posibility in general, that certain segments are unaware of it. But the contention that it isn't considered at all...causes me to question the validty of all statements you make. Its fairly apparent, given their appearance at the damned conventions, their tweets, and other issues, that the people directly involved in the running of the show are aware of things. The higher-ups, perhaps not.

The people making the show are aware and their goal is different. They want to express their creativity and their love of the show. They see fans of all ages and want to cater to everybody because more people see and love their work. At the end of the day MLP exists to make a company money. If creative license has to be stifled to that end, then so be it. If Derpy doesn't sit right with the crowd that spends their money but is loved by the group that doesn't, then the character dies.

So...yeah, I believe I just called you a liar, an idiot, or both. Please clarify which combination is most valid, and then go bugger off as I realized I don't care; you opened with an insult, why the devil should we care one wit about what you say?

You should care because I'm telling you why you aren't being paid any attention to. You want MLP to be something for the adult community to enjoy and have more free reign over how the show goes and how their own fandom and creativity can be used online? Then the company over all of this needs to see that you can help it's bottom line. If you want to just complain in a forum and shit all over someone telling you what the deal is, then you can just watch over time as the plug gets pulled on a lot more stuff you adult fans love. Your call.

Yeah, the moment someone says "Hasbro doesn't even know about bronies" you can basically ignore anything they follow with. Every single person involved with MLP knows about bronies, and if the higher ups didn't know the writers would alert them, and their merchandising department obviously knows about us. We make up most the sales on the products, no one can ignore that it's statistically impossible that 10 year old girls buy more MLP stuff, or rather get their parents to, then a group of employed fanboys.

We make up most the sales on the products, no one can ignore that it's statistically impossible that 10 year old girls buy more MLP stuff, or rather get their parents to, then a group of employed fanboys.

Keep telling yourself that. Have you see sales figures and demographic statistics or are you just pulling this out of your ass?

Keep telling yourself that. Have you see sales figures and demographic statistics or are you just pulling this out of your ass?

You started buddy, give your proof. That's the way this goes, you claim something, then you gave nothing to back it. So when I call bullshit it's on your head to back it up. Nothing in your post was even REMOTELY believable, and two people called you on it. So if you have sales figures and demo statistics then pull them up, ones officially released on an official site that can't be edited by anybody, with a link to the site not just an image.

Mm, just for giggles I just did a quick search about things, Hasbro has specifically targeted the brony audience for certain marketing, and the bronies do make up a considerable amount of the money made, not as much as I stated, but damn near half of the total. Also worth noting is that bronies make up almost 50% of the viewership for the show, and that Hasbro has a lot of money tied up in things aimed at bronies that will cost them if the fandom dies out. Basically, it might not sink the ship but it's going to make them rather butthurt.

This post has been edited by blakfayt: Feb 10 2013, 02:13

One word: image.

Brilliant work, then, about the image. Take something that people are excited about, which doesn't actually cause any damage to your brand, and then act like a douche. That clearly won't cause people who aren't even that interested in the product to think you're a bunch of dicks. Seriously, one of these days companies are going to learn that there is such a thing as bad PR, when you start fucking with people just because you can.

And, side note...ponies fighting...is a bad image? Okay, but a town of them attempting to supress an indigenous population, by force, is fine? One of them using dark magic to enslave a population is perfectly alright? Turning a living creature to stone...is a-okay? Making one of the main characters freaking EXPLODE...what, a dozen times isn't problematic at all?

I think ponies fighting would be less disturbing then some of the crap they've actually done.

Entirely different note - If the Derpy/Doctor/Fan Favorite pack/etc. aren't selling well...then why are they so damned difficult to find in stock? Why does Welovefine keep going out of stock on the adult-sized shirts? I can't imagine Hasbro doesn't get adecent chunk of that.

And, because I did a quick look-through of episodes, to remind myself of the best "dark moments"...hey, do we have any word on when Hasbro is going to pay Disney and DC?

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Yeah...that's completely unique, and not based on anyone else's intellectual property. I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning.

Hey shitlords, I knew a bunch of you would get all bent out of shape to see that the MLP game got canned by Hasbro and also that changes were being made by Hasbro to the show, so I'm making a quick appearance. I work for that company now and see more MLP shit on a daily basis than I honestly care to. Hate to break it to you but the Brony population isn't on the radar at all when it comes to being considered, hell, I had to actually explain to a few people what it even was.

With lines like Marvel and Star Wars there is always going to be a bunch of cheap toys made that kids will like but the adult collectors are never forgotten. For every 2.99 Yoda from the Clone Wars TV show, there will be some mega bundle of detailed figures made for Comic Con for adults. Both demographics sell and both demographics want different things. With MLP it sells with just one; little girls.

Sure, you all like the show and enjoy the fan base and creations, but you by and large don't plop down money on the toys. At the end of the day that's what the show is and will be to Hasbro; an opportunity to make money. Hate it or not but that's the only reason the show exists. The HUB is where the show is aired and that channel is owned by Hasbro so it really is just a glorified advertising network to sell toys.

Bitching and complaining won't get you anywhere, you need to actually show the suits that you are a viable demographic worth catering to. Did you see the news recently where people made a big deal out of not getting gender neutral colors for the EZ Bake Oven? Now one is being produced. So if you want Hasbro to give you some more leniency with the property, show that you can actually affect the bottom line. So long as the sales are only little girls, the property is going to only cater to them and protect that image.

Sure, some points are probably true. For instance I believe you when you say you had to explain what bronies are. But on the other hand it's impossible for anyone working there to not know about the huge hit the show became with grown-ups. So maybe they weren't familiar with the 'brony' term but to not know of that lucky break and not care is just bullshit. Why? Because the image they're so trying to protect was honed by this very unexpected demographic, that's why. What I'm saying is.. they were lucky it became a hit with the brony community because it's basically FREE marketing for them and on a scale that would've been impossible otherwise too. What will you find if you google MLP related terms? Correct. 90% of the results would be most likely be distributed by pony enthusiasts and bronies and not by little girls or hasbro. (This statistic is purely fictional, and still most likely true anyway.)

I also believe you that the toys don't sell with this demographic. It was pointless to even try honestly..
From an adult's perspective I think liking the show and buying the toys are two radically different things. I hope we agree on this, but (most) adults don't play with children's toys. So the only way they could sell is as collectables. But here's another problem.. ponies are by design pretty much worthless as collectables. They're basically palletswaps at best. So if Hasbro wants to sell them to the brony community they should adjust. Make high-quality collectables (figurines) that specifically target older demographics. Using parodies perhaps that are otherwise wasted on little girls.

Also bring back Derpy, dammit.

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Welcome back Caps.

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I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning.

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[dat cutie mark]

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possibly soiling the property's image.

I dunno about the rest of you, but blakfayt soiled it for me.

I dunno about the rest of you, but blakfayt soiled it for me.

I soil it every night. In bed. ...with my dick. ...cause I clop.

I soil it every night. In bed. ...with my dick. ...cause I clop.

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Sure, some points are probably true. For instance I believe you when you say you had to explain what bronies are...

Yes, and the fact that the shows creators and writers know about, attend conventions of, and tweet about bronies means nothing. We're a known demographic, the only people who wouldn't know about bronies at this point live under a rock.

I also believe you that the toys don't sell with this demographic. It was pointless to even try honestly..
From an adult's perspective I think liking the show and buying the toys are two radically different things. I hope we agree on this, but (most) adults don't play with children's toys. So the only way they could sell is as collectables. But here's another problem.. ponies are by design pretty much worthless as collectables. They're basically palletswaps at best. So if Hasbro wants to sell them to the brony community they should adjust. Make high-quality collectables (figurines) that specifically target older demographics. Using parodies perhaps that are otherwise wasted on little girls.

And they do, the comics and trading cards are aimed at the adult viewers of the show, of which I've dropped nearly $100 on, and the comic company can't KEEP UP WITH THE NUMBER OF BACK ORDERS FOR THE FIRST ISSUE OF THE COMIC. There's also toys aimed at the brony viewers that are almost NEVER on shelves because either some faggot moves them and you have to wander wal-mart for an hour until you find them hidden behind a plant in the gardening department, or because they sell out insanely fast. (Of course it's also possible that they produce a limited quantity of the brony merch, which is a stupid move, marketing to the kid who has no money as opposed to the obsessed anime otaku fanbase that drops 5k on a fluttershy plushie on Ebay.) Either way, we make an impact on the bottom line.

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We leave behind the smoldering corpse of rainbowmagnum, along with our memories of youth.

*tries to read all those posts*

Okay... so, why all the hate? Fighting is Magic has been stopped, but no one was going to be able to play it anyways. Honestly, had it not been for Evo, I bet that game might have been finished. But oh well? It's not the biggest loss in the world. I rather have Derpy back in the show. That loss still hurts.

Hasbro, in my opinion, only cares about the money the bronies have, not the bronies themselves. The show is made for little girls to sell them ugly looking toys - it just so happens the show has excellent writers. As long as Hasbro can make money off the IP, they don't need to care about adult fans because children will still buy their crap. But whatever - the only merch I buy is the comics, as that is the only thing that appeals to me.

I'm still wondering about why all the fear of Twilight getting wings. She'll be a princess - so what? CrealVelocity made a good argument about this not being a big thing over at EQD.

I just want to keep watching ponies. Season 4 will be a full season, there is a movie in the works, and I'm sure season 4 will have more nods to the adult fandom this time around. Personally, nothing really feels wrong. That, or the love and tolerance motto is sticking to me.

Honestly I didn't even know about Fighting is Magic, and I don't do fighters so I could care less about that shit. I'm upset that they C&Ded it after all the work put into it, but they shouldn't have gone to motherFUCKING EVO FOR LUNA'S SAKE! THAT WAS BLATANTLY FUCKING RETARDED DEVELOPERS OF OBVIOUSLY TRADEMARK INFRINGING GAME!

As for Twilight getting wings, well it signifies a massive change in plot. I for one have been noticing a decreased goodness of the series writing and the writers stating "We're making a massive change that affects the entire show, completely against the original writers intentions." doesn't sit well with me. They've basically established that they fail at the type of stories I loved in S1 and S4 is probably going to end up going back to everyone solving everything with tea parties and little human girls getting involved to further annex the bronies. I hope I'm wrong, I really do, but Twilight getting wings messes with a LOT of things, both aesthetically and in the meanings.

Also the brony documentary knifed the fandom, everything happening now is just the bleeding, followed by death.