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post Apr 16 2012, 08:27
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money issues drove me away from the game, i still play it though with good friends and the old decks are still reliable, even against the new "better" ones, but not on tournaments, with that rule that you have to have the newest of the new cards always, meh. i wont waste my money.

now is poker or gin, with bets that always makes it fun.
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post Apr 16 2012, 08:28
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QUOTE(Mika Kurogane @ Apr 16 2012, 01:50) *

Print badass card, use crappy cards, glue them together using some cardboard, rinse, repeat, make your own leet deck for a few bucks. If 'cheating' is not an option, you could also use one of those cheap weenie rush decks and beat opponents with a $500+ deck through mass invasion, which is, if I remember correctly, allowed in tournament play. Rage usually ensued.

Now that you can play on the Internets, this is kind of obsolete, though. I still laugh hard at those people paying monies for virtual cards, just like I laugh at people paying absurdly high prices for "rare" virtual stuff.

I knew a guy like that who always bought the "top deck in the format" yet I had a much higher win rate against him than I should have (which according to him should have been zero) with my decks I made with the cards I had. I rarely had the best cards unless I opened a couple of lucky packs. A few times the piss poor loser when on a rant about how there is no way I should ever be able to be him (to be fair he often drew badly against me). God forbid my cobbled together deck might be decent or I might be a good player. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

When I was playing seriously I often played a Sligh like red deck. If you're deck is anything but the perfection it's supposed to be you'll have a hard time against a deck where about a third of it are answers to questions that haven't been asked yet. If the right question doesn't come up there's always:

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post Apr 16 2012, 08:32
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QUOTE(Shadow Weaver @ Apr 16 2012, 00:28) *

I knew a guy like that who always bought the "top deck in the format" yet I had a much higher win rate against him than I should have (which according to him should have been zero) with my decks I made with the cards I had. I rarely had the best cards unless I opened a couple of lucky packs. A few times the piss poor loser when on a rant about how there is no way I should ever be able to be him (to be fair he often drew badly against me). God forbid my cobbled together deck might be decent or I might be a good player. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

When I was playing seriously I often played a Sligh like red deck. If you're deck is anything but the perfection it's supposed to be you'll have a hard time against a deck where about a third of it are answers to questions that haven't been asked yet. If the right question doesn't come up there's always:



that rant was always funny, "you can't win. 'cause my deck is more expensive" makes me laugh everytime. red with the direct damage or green with mana spamming elves where always a hoot to use against those players.

or blue white trolling, ja. remember the stasis-kismet combo deck?


Edit: crap i just realize just how nerd i look in this post @_@ meh, Slivers Rule and Moggs Drool! Yeah.

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post Apr 16 2012, 08:48
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QUOTE(Azraelgt @ Apr 16 2012, 08:32) *
"You can't win 'cause my deck is more expensive"
Classic. And that's why you make people rage with cheap, balanced decks or through pure luck. Because yes, luck does happen.

Kind of on-topic :
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Too bad it's tournament play and they have to tell her the truth. Suuankou. Non-dealer, though. Would have been funnier.

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post Apr 16 2012, 09:11
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Always wanted to learn how to play mah-jong. Never did.

by deduction the tiles in the board would be kind of a straight royal flush in the first hand playing poker right?
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post Apr 16 2012, 09:16
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Nope. Four closed "three-of-a-kind" and a pair (四暗刻 is also called "four closed triplets" since that's the literal translation) if you want to go with the poker analogy, all closed since the wait was a triplet and she drew the winning tile.

Which makes it a yakuman hand. 32000 points, 48000 if she had been slightly luckier and sitting east.
Also, some rules make it a double yakuman if the wait is the pair (四暗刻単騎待ち, literally "waiting on a single horseman") if I recall correctly, which would be a whopping 96000 points as dealer.

Fun fact is, had she won on a discard, it would not have counted as a yakuman, as the last triplet would have been considered open instead. Yet, the hand value would not even have been downgraded to what she said. It would have included the following yaku (feel free to fix if that's complete bullshit, still a mere amateur as I have never played mahjong IRL) :
- reach (1 han)
- toitoi (all triplets, 2 han)
- sanankou (three closed triplets, 2 han)

Making it a total of 5 han, which is a mangan (8000 points as non-dealer).

In terms of odds, though :
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四暗刻        0.03756%
四暗刻単騎     0.00561%
The hardest one to get being suukantsu ("four quads") tied with kokushi musou 13-men ("thirteen orphans with 13 faces")
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国士無双13面   0.00019%
四槓子        0.00019%
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ADDENDUM : Trying to turn Az into a mahjong addict.

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post Apr 16 2012, 11:16
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sooooo, if i sit south i don't get to go to the W.C?


3 am and still up, 3 am and fuck im going to be asleep at work, 3 am and damn t.v. sucks, 3 am and better try some drugs,


reeid ya latah!


no wonder my shrink commited seppuku... >_>




edit: missed the k in work

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post Apr 16 2012, 11:33
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The parent sits east and the children sit everywhere else.

If the parent wins, they get a 50% bonus, because of parental authority. Also, the children get fucked twice because in this case everyone keeps their seat.

If one of the children wins on their own, the parent gets fucked and has to pay more than the other children. In any event, if the parent doesn't win, the seats move clockwise (or is it counterclockwise ?) and the game goes on and on until someone dies and/or the game is over.

A new round starts when everyone has assumed the parental role. First round is east, second is south.

Yeah, that's slightly watered down.

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post Apr 16 2012, 12:14
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Bleh I fucking hate luck.

I still have my decks and they contain about 50% more land cards than statistically required, yet I never, SERIOUSLY FUCKING NEVER NO MATTER WHAT I DID, drew a hand with more than three lands over the next ten rounds.

That pissed me off so much, I once put 33 lands into my deck, which, finally kind of worked. Unfortunately, I drew too much mana, then, and was being too slow anyway.


Other than that: mini-Combo decks ftw. I always managed to keep a balance with all those little aces up my sleeve. People always laughed at me because I was still using cards from the editions of last year and older, but therefor I always knew what exactly to do next in response to what the other did.

Now that I think of it, I was a fairly decent player, I just shouldn't have sticked to black for so long... I always had the urge to remodify into black and blue, but never wanted to get used to all the new possible combos... Also: Monies.


This nerdy, ignorant MTG rant was brought to you by: Fuck, my lunch is waiting for me!
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post Apr 16 2012, 13:58
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Most card/table games depend on luck.

MTG and mahjong have something in common - if you know how to play your hand well, you have an advantage over an opponent who doesn't. Of course, sometimes it's so crappy you can't do anything about it so you have to try and go defensive...

Trading card games rely on deck builds as well. Build your own deck and take the time to learn its strengths and weaknesses for casual play.

There is a way to completely get rid of the luck factor in a digital version : shuffle your deck, copy it, send the shuffled copy to your friend and start playing. The only thing left is strategy because 1) both of you have the same cards in your library and 2) both of you will draw the same cards.

Kind of like that tournament Scrabble thing or whatever it's called. Everyone plays with the same letters on their rack and the highest-scoring words are kept at the end of the turn. The judge draws a new set of letters, then everyone sets their rack accordingly and updates the board with the new words. And so on.

No luck involved. Only strategy and knowledge.

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post Apr 16 2012, 13:58
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What in the blue waffle fuck are you all talking about?
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post Apr 16 2012, 14:05
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Mahjong and MTG. The current topic is MTG, though. And Scrabble.
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post Apr 16 2012, 14:07
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QUOTE(Pseudoshy @ Apr 16 2012, 05:58) *

What in the blue waffle fuck are you all talking about?


nerd game called magic the gathering, poker, and the rules of mah-jong which according to M.K. state i have to decapitate myself if two henku create a han over a waifu.

translation: purely nerd stuff, and i just woke up so this post should be considered half asleep written by a mind-adled azz-hole (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif).



Good morning anyway Pseudoshy.
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post Apr 16 2012, 14:36
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Is there such a thing as "3d experience for taste buds" or "3d taste"? Man, what will Pizza Hut's marketing team come up with next. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 16 2012, 14:41
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Oh yeah, I forgot poker. Damn straight.

Also, good morning to y'all in the GMT minus a bunch of hours timezones.

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post Apr 16 2012, 15:58
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QUOTE(Mika Kurogane @ Apr 16 2012, 14:41) *

Oh yeah, I forgot poker. Damn straight.

Also, good morning to y'all in the GMT minus a bunch of hours timezones.


If you're a French from France for real, then it was 14:41 when you posted that.
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post Apr 16 2012, 16:06
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Yes.
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post Apr 16 2012, 22:50
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QUOTE(Muramasa777 @ Apr 16 2012, 15:58) *

If you're a French from France for real, then it was 14:41 when you posted that.

That's like midnight for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Anyway:

The negation of this would probably be chess:everything relies purely on knowledge and if you didn't lear your Geyer-and-Schaefer-checkmates you're simply fucked.
That's why I always liked Go more (in theory). It's monotony makes "game vocabulary" ineffective....
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post Apr 16 2012, 23:10
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Scrabble > All. Except maybe Risk. Fuck Yeah, Risk!
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post Apr 17 2012, 00:10
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I think scrabble sucks. But maybe that's because I got the dutch version, though.
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