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I hate winter.

I should hate tentacle-man61.

The Android game, Joustin’ Beaver is inspired by Justin Bieber's life. Who would've thought?

It's going to be a pain in the ass to get all those achievements back...

I should hate tentacle-man61.

Yes.

It's going to be a pain in the ass to get all those achievements back...

You do know that your whole account wasn't deleted right? You could just recover it and have all those achievements back.

You do know that your whole account wasn't deleted right? You could just recover it and have all those achievements back.

dunno, I lost alot of game saves AND achv. points on games after downloading the content for battlefield: bad company (the content has since been removed from xbox live). It corruped my account & even when i recovered it I found I had lost alot of achv. points, like nearly all of the Dead Space ones & other games that i played from that point on from downloading the battlefield content until my hardrive became corrupted totally. Recovering my profile DID NOT bring my achv score from the games played in that period back.

I'm single because I'm a casual gamer.

We get that a lot, though. There's no Sonic within a hundred miles here, but we get their ads constantly. The other week I saw ads for some furniture place in Buffalo. Cable is fucked.

When I was down in Mississippi they were everywhere, that said I can tell you that Sonic isn't all that great.

Now Checkers, there's some good eats.

I'm single because I'm a casual gamer.

That makes you good people in my book, sir.

Now Checkers, there's some good eats.

Not in Michigan.

I'm single because I'm a casual gamer.

But how do you get your numbers larger than other people's numbers and then brag about it like they matter?

Ancient Chinese secret.

[penny-arcade.com] Why are people that play video games the most awful motherfuckers pon d'flo'?

Well, Street Fighter X Tekken still looks as ugly to me as it did close to a year ago... Hopefully it plays well.

Why are people that play video games the most awful motherfuckers pon d'flo'[/url]?

Exaggeration.

As for what you actually posted... I wanted to rebut, but since I'm bad at it, I'll instead quote someone else who I (partially) agree with: There's a little bolding, for emphasis.

Aris did apologize to her and his obvious chest pounding equating sexual abuse to sandwiches was not directed at Miranda, but someone who was not a part of the FGC telling him his form of humor wasn't welcome in the FGC. In that context what he said was still wrong, but if you had been a member of a community for 15 years and someone you never met said "GTFO" you'd probably pound your chest a bit too. He was stressed, he was tired, and the guy was pushing him and it was a stupid comment made in haste. He apologized to her days before she "quit". The reason she quit was not because Aris was unrelenting. It was that she realized she didn't deserve to go to final round (something she herself has said more than once) and that after Aris' poorly worded and misguided comment, she was worried that maybe he was right.

She was the worst of the 10 players. If you watched her play all 7 days you'd know that. Even when she was moved to the other team with a coach that devoted most of his day to her - a contestant that was no longer eligible to compete, she wanted to complain and whine rather that accept an outreached hand. - That is the picture of victim mentality, she was not an expert at Tekken or any other fighter. If she were, she's have known that Aris was flat wrong about bigotry in the FGC because she'd have been to tourneys herself and SEEN what it's really like there.

Worse still, check out this girl's twitter: She can't be reached for comment but she's quick to link everyone to every article that's being written about this. That is not the way someone who's traumatized about the past days events responds. You're all just hate mongering and she's loving every second.

This article is completely biased to make this into something much larger than it really is. No one can deny that Aris is a train wreck, but he's not the devil.

This is going to get voted down because most of you are too busy trying to disassociate yourselves with this man instead of actually being human, and that's exactly what this poor, misinformed and uninformative excuse of an article is too. Disassociation riding the coattails of sensationalism.

Ask yourselves this: Aris molested a man on that same show. Smelled his hair, tried to take his shirt off, etc. This was not targeted behavior, it was just a guy trying to get viewers and going too far. If a man were in Miranda's position and behaved as Miranda (Super Yan) did, would you have all rushed to this man's side? Or would most people here said it was harmless and that the victim needed to "man up"?

No denying that Aris is an idiot; I've seen him on streams before, and I don't agree at all with his 'bigotry is a necessary part of the community' bull. But the behavior shown on that stream is far from an isolated incident; it's more extreme than I'm used to, but not by much. The FGC is an aggressive community and standing up for yourself when you feel you're personally being wronged (unrelated to the game) is also an important trait in order to be accepted in the community. I'm pretty confident that if SuperYan had done more than laugh off Aris's blatant misogyny and had actually made herself clear, he would have toned it down (doubt he would have stopped, he's one of those guys who doesn't know proper tact, though that hardly needs clarifying).



As for the comments made on SRK... I won't excuse them or try to defend them as most do, instead I suggest that you ignore them. Comments made on the front page of SRK by the many, many different forum members (it's most likely the biggest fighting game forum out there with a ludicrously high membership) are typically on the same scale as Youtube comments; most comments are terribly biased, usually reveal the commenter didn't read the article in question, come from people who don't even post on the forum itself, and only the uninitiated or unaware give them any merit whatsoever. There's a reason why the FGC and even SRK itself often call the front page "Stupid Retarded Kids".

All the ridiculous chest pounding and screaming and other bullshit is why I don't play multiplayer games. They want me to play a different game than I want to and if I don't they get incensed and retarded in all situations I've been in. Please take heed to the italics and try to realize I'm not making a blanket statement but rather using anecdotal evidence and don't get all defensive or whatever like you, yes you, usually do when I talk about this shit.

If it was anyone else I'd still say it's awful and retarded. Even when I do such things I can recognize that it's awful and retarded. But saying you have to be a bigot and an asshole to fit in? That's just idiotic and childish and there's no two ways about it. There is no excuse and a younger version of myself would have tried to say that it's okay. But socially? It's not. By basic human standards? It's not. We, as a community of people that are linked by the common activity of playing video games, and I will never refer to myself or anyone else as a "gamer" as long as I can help it because it's a foolish title, we are being demonized because of activity like this, because of the bullshit that happened to Jennifer Halper. The social stigma exists because of people like Aris, and the ones that are allowing him and the competitive game community at large to continue on like this, like the World of Warcraft players that lose their shit during a wipe, or the FPS players that act like frat house morons and scream into their headsets like a fucking video game is a life or death situation. They are the ones that make all of us look bad and, frankly, I'm kind of tired of it.

Oh, and yes, I won't bother with trying to be courteous or cordial since apparently I'm not. So enjoy rudeness.

EDIT: I guess I don't understand why people are trying to rationalize shitty behavior like it's not a big deal.

ADDENDUM: Played Kingdoms of Amalur for five minutes then uninstalled it. Whoever created the camera motions is a jackass.

This post has been edited by radixius: Mar 1 2012, 07:28

Please take heed to the italics and try to realize I'm not making a blanket statement but rather using anecdotal evidence and don't get all defensive or whatever like you, yes you, usually do when I talk about this shit.

Is it defensive? I always assumed that 'defensive' comments were ones that attempted to make excuses for parts of an argument, oftentimes including oneself in one group or another, not ones that simply took an opposing stance. I'm not terribly emotionally invested in this, I just feel that the article you linked was very sensationalized and seemed to be largely uninformed on what it was talking about. That doesn't make it entirely meritless, but a lot of credibility is lost when someone like me can read it and see that it's written by someone from 'the outside looking in', so to speak.

Also, regardless of what you decide to say after the fact, your first statement when read stand-alone as it was written is a blanket statement, using the term 'gamers' that you also just claimed you would never use (unless of course you mean referring to people in-person or actual speech, which would just be a matter of semantics).

If it was anyone else I'd still say it's awful and retarded. Even when I do such things I can recognize that it's awful and retarded. But saying you have to be a bigot and an asshole to fit in? That's just idiotic and childish and there's no two ways about it. There is no excuse and a younger version of myself would have tried to say that it's okay. But socially? It's not. By basic human standards? It's not.

I wonder if I created some confusion? I'm not attempting to defend Aris' claims on the FGC and how he thinks it 'has to be sexist or it's not the FGC'. It's such a stupid mindset that it's barely worth commenting on, and so I didn't.
This might come off as defensive now that I think about saying it, but I can see where he's getting this from, whether I agree with it or not; dealing with trash-talk and an unfriendly community is how most of the OGs got where they are today, so it probably comes off as 'tradition' to them. I imagine that for them to see newer players come into what was a harsh community for them and get involved so easily bugs them, because during the high days of the arcade, they never had it that easy. With the whole 'Fighter Renaissance' of the last few years, it's become easier to be accepted, and it seems to me like it's just part of the process of everything changing. The 'Old Way' of getting involved in fighters dying out; trash-talk is part of the experience because it's competition, so that's not likely to get much better, but the misogyny, bigotry? Even if it's never outright eliminated (good luck doing that anywhere), it's only a matter of time before that sort of thing is brought down to a reasonable level. If anything, I'm a little glad this has happened, because it's only when incidents like this receive attention that changes are made. .-.

The social stigma exists because of people like Aris, and the ones that are allowing him and the competitive game community at large to continue on like this, like the World of Warcraft players that lose their shit during a wipe, or the FPS players that act like frat house morons and scream into their headsets like a fucking video game is a life or death situation. They are the ones that make all of us look bad and, frankly, I'm kind of tired of it.

I feel like this is over-exaggerating. Not the extent to which players get mad at video games (a quick search of that angry German kid is all the evidence one needs), but even bringing it up in the first place. If we're talking about most XBox Live 'tweens or some League of Legends wannabe-professional, it's all on them. They make us look bad, they're embarrassing to even think about, much less deal with, but it isn't hard to imagine that they either use their games as an outlet, or they have deep-seated problems beyond the game, neither of which can be discussed easily in this argument alone.

If we're talking about actual professionals, the StarCraft players, the Justin Wongs or Gootecks/Stick-throwers (though that's old hat by now), maybe a speedrunner or two... Well, for them it's an actual job. In those cases, failure costs them money and any fame they may have been going for, like any other paid professional. It seems safe to say that at least a few members of the Pats were angry to have choked during the SuperBowl, right? Same situation, only vidya-players don't have nearly the same level or fame or respect at large.

Oh, and yes, I won't bother with trying to be courteous or cordial since apparently I'm not. So enjoy rudeness.

I'll admit I didn't realize that that offended you. But I don't feel sorry for saying it, I still feel it's true, and I won't apologize for it. I think you're rude in argument, especially with the neat little 'Option Selects' you sneak into a lot of them, but at the same time I don't mind it because you aren't uncouth or totally unreasonable.

Is it defensive? I always assumed that 'defensive' comments were ones that attempted to make excuses for parts of an argument, oftentimes including oneself in one group or another, not ones that simply took an opposing stance. I'm not terribly emotionally invested in this, I just feel that the article you linked was very sensationalized and seemed to be largely uninformed on what it was talking about. That doesn't make it entirely meritless, but a lot of credibility is lost when someone like me can read it and see that it's written by someone from 'the outside looking in', so to speak.

Except that it possibly wasn't and your assuming that is absolutely ridiculous and, by the same turn, meritless.

Also, regardless of what you decide to say after the fact, your first statement when read stand-alone as it was written is a blanket statement, using the term 'gamers' that you also just claimed you would never use (unless of course you mean referring to people in-person or actual speech, which would just be a matter of semantics).

Is it? Did I? Or are you having trouble reading tone again like everyone else I can't stand on this forum? Have all the posters here gone completely mentally retarded as opposed to half-way mentally retarded while I was blinking? What kind of idiot would use the term "pon d'flo'" in a serious discussion? The fuck, man?

I wonder if I created some confusion? I'm not attempting to defend Aris' claims on the FGC and how he thinks it 'has to be sexist or it's not the FGC'. It's such a stupid mindset that it's barely worth commenting on, and so I didn't.
This might come off as defensive now that I think about saying it, but I can see where he's getting this from, whether I agree with it or not; dealing with trash-talk and an unfriendly community is how most of the OGs got where they are today, so it probably comes off as 'tradition' to them. I imagine that for them to see newer players come into what was a harsh community for them and get involved so easily bugs them, because during the high days of the arcade, they never had it that easy.

What a stupid reason. Anyone that thinks that or agrees with it should probably be gutted like a fish and left to die. That's like saying "I didn't get to have ice cream when I was a kid, so my kid will get rocks for dinner." Seriously, it seems from what I've experienced that very few people in the gaming community have any respect for anyone else. And try to differentiate between an observation and an indictment. Hell, any time I record a podcast with my hearty, never-say-die companion his roommate is screaming at someone on CoD. It's awful and childish and it ruins the recording, thus my day.

With the whole 'Fighter Renaissance' of the last few years, it's become easier to be accepted, and it seems to me like it's just part of the process of everything changing. The 'Old Way' of getting involved in fighters dying out; trash-talk is part of the experience because it's competition, so that's not likely to get much better, but the misogyny, bigotry? Even if it's never outright eliminated (good luck doing that anywhere), it's only a matter of time before that sort of thing is brought down to a reasonable level.

Doubtful. I don't have much faith in the attitude changes of a group of misogynistic bigoted man-children that are apparently so set in their ways that someone can actually say "removing misogyny and bigotry from the community" is "ethically unsound" followed by a digitized rallying cry of agreement. Then again; I'm a pessimist.

If anything, I'm a little glad this has happened, because it's only when incidents like this receive attention that changes are made. .-.

From the wrong people I'm sure. If anyone gave a shit about this it would be treated with the same
subtlety and candor as school shootings being equated to Doom. And we know what changes were made from that.

I feel like this is over-exaggerating. Not the extent to which players get mad at video games (a quick search of that angry German kid is all the evidence one needs), but even bringing it up in the first place. If we're talking about most XBox Live 'tweens or some League of Legends wannabe-professional, it's all on them. They make us look bad, they're embarrassing to even think about, much less deal with, but it isn't hard to imagine that they either use their games as an outlet, or they have deep-seated problems beyond the game, neither of which can be discussed easily in this argument alone.

Bullshit. Maybe they should learn to handle their fucking anger a little bit better instead of defaulting to white hot anger and sputtering obscenities into their microphones? Or is that too hard to process? Honestly it's like listening to cavemen cavort around for dominance. Can't they have a modicum of self-respect and dignity?

If we're talking about actual professionals, the StarCraft players, the Justin Wongs or Gootecks/Stick-throwers (though that's old hat by now), maybe a speedrunner or two... Well, for them it's an actual job. In those cases, failure costs them money and any fame they may have been going for, like any other paid professional. It seems safe to say that at least a few members of the Pats were angry to have choked during the SuperBowl, right? Same situation, only vidya-players don't have nearly the same level or fame or respect at large.

So pressured situations are excuses to act like a fucking asshole now? I don't see how that's an valid case. I've been in pressured situations, even as recent as 3:00am last night, and whenever they happen I don't turn into a bubbling hate cauldron of enmity and defenestration. ADDENDUM: When you do let the pressure get to you, that's when mistakes are made, and you fail yourself more than the people around you.

This post has been edited by radixius: Mar 1 2012, 08:02

Penny Arcade brings the worst out of people.

This thread sucks now.

Before that, I was wondering why they have Zones on Xbox Live. Also, Pro is a stupid name to use for what they're trying to describe with it. Seriously, why does nobody remember what the word professional means anymore? Same goes for amateur; people use it like an insult when it isn't. Can we stop mutilating the English language, please? It's getting harder than ever to understand one another.

This thread sucks now.

This thread was good?

Huh.

Before that, I was wondering why they have Zones on Xbox Live. Also, Pro is a stupid name to use for what they're trying to describe with it. Seriously, why does nobody remember what the word professional means anymore? Same goes for amateur; people use it like an insult when it isn't. Can we stop mutilating the English language, please? It's getting harder than ever to understand one another.

I believe they had a purpose that was never actually put in play. Perhaps at one point they were going to match online players with those in to respective gaming community. That way a Recreational player with marginal skill wasn't getting their ass handed to them by some Pro who lives, eats, breathes a certain game everyday. Or someone in Family wasn't getting verbally accosted by someone in the Hardcore community.