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...oh, Catgirl. Never mind then. 100k is still pretty high to me since I don't even know what to sell. Have a lot of weapons sure but who knows when the time comes that I might need to switch battle styles. Doing 2-handed for the time being. Thought you were referring to mobs dropping tens of thousands of credits per encounter in Grindfest or something.

Catgirl Aura has nothing to do with Creidts dropped.

At your level you have less arenas so it is harder to generate Credits for you. But hey now even GF and IW spew out Credits so it is easier than before. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

All I really want is that every once in a while, I would get a drop that is better than what I have already equipped. Anything! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) But that ship has sailed long ago I think...

100k per day? who? which post? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

You can probably still get 200k per day from IWBTH arena alone, just from credit drops and trash equipment.

50k from Catgirl aura and then a million Credits worth of hath per day (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Complaint: I miss the days where people couldn't just pay real cash out the ass and succeed in HV.

Complaint: I miss the days where people couldn't just pay real cash out the ass and succeed in HV.

So you want me to actually play to succeed? YOU MONSTER!

So the end of G's auction crashed the hath auction market back down to 9k per hath from about 11k. THANKS G

So the end of G's auction crashed the hath auction market back down to 9k per hath from about 11k. THANKS G

How exactly are those 2 things related?

How exactly are those 2 things related?

Accepted hath at 9k, hath market had hath at 11k~. People who bid at those auctions went up to millions and sold hath in masses (and still are).

So you want me to actually play to succeed? YOU MONSTER!

Looking at how the hath prices drop and how the hath perks change, I just think 10b is discouraging people from hosting H@H clients. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Depends on how you look at it

<tenboro> Some people have way too much hath

Where way too much is "everything obtained in hath perk lists AND tens of thousands of hath left over".

So the new perks are pretty much sinks. Not very inviting ones, sure, but the intent was to release something HV that drains the hath away while not being a game-changer like IA5, Crys3, RR, etc. as opposed to another daemon duality-like perk yet does provide improvement. Sure, you won't be hosting H@H for them but saying that releasing hath perks is cause for hath price to plummet isn't true either - the cause for that is credit drop change, but HV market can be rather unpredictable at times. One pony mode from hath moguls drains the market more than 14 guyswho max their crystarium trees.

I am not too sure who has "way too much Hath", but if according to your definition (who must be an HV fanatic) I can only think of 1 name. For others who are likely to have lots of Hath (e.g. the top 4 guys in All-Time H@H toplist), they don't seem to be playing too much HV so I don't think the new Hath perks could tempt them to reduce their hath stock.

So, are the new Hath perks actually attractive?

Pony Mode - Significantly boosts the damage output of the Orbital Friendship Cannon.

How significant? 2x? 10x? 100x? Or good enough to kill FSM in 1 shot?
For me, I seldom use it. I always think that it's not powerful enough. Plus, the reduction in overcharge amount further reduces my interest in using it.

25K Hath for something uncertain and seldom used? This is always in the lowest priority for me.

Follower of Snowflake - Displays your unyielding devotion to Snowflake, the Goddess of Loot and Harvest.

For something costing that much, I think I would expect something like "after opening the Hath perk, shrining 1 Noodly Appendage always gives a Legendary T3 equipment". (Perhaps somebody who made the correct guess should get a prize?) But would it be that good? Who knows. If one had 200K Hath, probably he wouldn't even need to think about this. But if one only got 50K Hath? Well. Think about how much money / effort was put into getting 50K Hath, would it worth to put into something uncertain? Oh well.

I don't know if somebody would think that the new Hath perks are attractive. Even if so, would this cause them to buy Hath with Credits? Probably not, because of the new trainings which cost a hell lot of Credits. If I want more Hath, probably I would only open more H@H client slots or adopting server slots, rather than selling Credits for Hath. So I believe there's no motivation from the moguls to buy Hath with Credits.

But I think this is only the smaller part of the Hath price downturn.

What I meant "hath perks change" was not about the 2 new super-expensive Hath perks, but the change of existing ones - and I mainly point to the Auras.

Black / White / Rainbow Auras - I don't mean they are useless now, but they must be looking way less attractive than before for a majority of players, I believe, mainly due to the removal of EXP boost (and probably Power as well) on them. Check how many people actually activate these perks after their functions changed. Probably only the HP perk is most useful. MP/SP is overflowing by using Heroic potions with maxed trainings, what's the point to open the MP/SP perks?

Crystarium - It looks like there's nothing changed on the table but... for Crystarium III, crystal drops on a IWBTH arena reduced from 15x to 12x, fullstop.

Innate Arcana - Probably IA1 has become more attractive, but the change in Spark of Life gives people less reason using an IA slot for it.

People could rather put (1) trainings, and; (2) improving equipments in a higher priority, rather than buying Hath for them.

Hath perks not attractive => Less Hath demand => Hath prices drop.

If 10b ever wanted to stop Hath prices from continuous downturn, add more value to the Hath perks like:

• Revert to the old Black / White / Rainbow Aura
• Add back the Credit-related Hath perks (for increasing Credit gains / bazaar sale value and decreasing training cost)
• Crystarium IV/V
• Improve Spark of Life

Or I afraid that Hath would continue to depreciate.

Why not just levels to the new health/mana/Spirit perks.
3 levels total where level 2 is what it is now if terms of increase and hath cost.
Level 3 increases it to 30% but also offers a little regeneration +

Crystal perk is still the best in terms of Price and what you get.

IA is still great.

Tokenizer would need to get cheaper to make it more attractive.

Damage perk would also be more attractive if it had more but cheaper levels. (in the end same costs and gains but people will want the first few if it is possible)

And yeah Economic Perks now makes some sense again. Just add some credit drop rate increase to it and it is very attractive.

The new perks are just here for shits and giggles. No sane person would pay 50k for something uncertain.

Tokenizer would need to get cheaper to make it more attractive.

Screw that. It takes a very long time to get that amount of hath without buying slots or running multiple clients. I don't want this being reduced because someone doesn't give partial refunds. Someone that owes me and many others millions of credits and thousands of hath in previously reduced trainings and hath perk costs.

"owes"

I bet you're one of those people who go back to a store and demand the difference refunded if they lower the price or has a sale after you bought something.

"owes"

I bet you're one of those people who go back to a store and demand the difference refunded if they lower the price or has a sale after you bought something.

Lots of places have guaranteed pricing like that, especially with expensive purchases like TVs.

Lots of places have guaranteed pricing like that, especially with expensive purchases like TVs.

I've never seen that anywhere. So if you buy a top of the line TV, then come back with it six years later, they'll give you back the difference between what it cost then and what it costs now?

Regardless, I've outright stated that stuff might get cheaper, and there will be no "refunds". I tend to make old stuff cheaper when I add new stuff, or when usage numbers indicates that it's not worth the price to most people. So if you're afraid of that happening, simply never buy anything.

I've never seen that anywhere. So if you buy a top of the line TV, then come back with it six years later, they'll give you back the difference between what it cost then and what it costs now?

Heh I have still some old game consoles which I want refunded. Those fuckers was expensive when they came out (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I've never seen that anywhere. So if you buy a top of the line TV, then come back with it six years later, they'll give you back the difference between what it cost then and what it costs now?

There's no need for such ridiculous hyperbole. HV hasn't even existed six years.

But I speak from experience. This happened with the LED backlit LCD TV in my living room. Over $200 refunded. Of course that price match was only guaranteed for 45 or 60 days, but I still got it.

when usage numbers indicates that it's not worth the price to most people

That is rich. You mean like the years and years that no one had the big 4 trainings maxed, Scavenger/Luck/Quartermaster/Arch, due to the insane scaling? People begged you for years to ease the scaling, and it didn't happen. Yet you reduced the price pretty quickly after a handful of people finished them.

#####Hentaiverse VS My body#####
Max level 500 & Unlock all Hath Perks
---------------Versus----------------
My sexual potency

who will be defeated?

to be continued... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

No sane person would pay 50k for something uncertain.

Why not? ... For someone insane enough to have such a large pile of hath sitting around, it's the most sensible thing to do— I certainly would... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

There's no need for such ridiculous hyperbole. HV hasn't even existed six years.

But I speak from experience. This happened with the LED backlit LCD TV in my living room. Over $200 refunded. Of course that price match was only guaranteed for 45 or 60 days, but I still got it.

But that's usually because those stores have competition and they don't want them to never buy stuff from there that isn't on sale.

Is there a competitor to hath perks?