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post May 30 2011, 13:00
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Heroicfest. But it was all the same Ichy.

My guess is: Damage is based on STR/Dex but is actually magical (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post May 30 2011, 13:24
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QUOTE(Ichy @ May 30 2011, 12:00) *

Heroicfest. But it was all the same Ichy.

My guess is: Damage is based on STR/Dex but is actually magical (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
That's why it's strange, I did with the same Ichy too, got 1 hit with +400 and another with +500, then when I weakened only did +250 dmg, and none of them was a crit. Unless the difference came from defend (so I wouldn't stun it) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Either way, the pew something attack did +2000 dmg (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post May 30 2011, 14:38
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QUOTE(Ichy @ May 30 2011, 11:29) *

On a funny side mark. You can drain mana from Ether thefted monsters by using Scan (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

The mana drains when the monster takes its turn. You could use Scan, or Defend, or stand there picking your nose, and it wouldn't make any difference.
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post May 30 2011, 18:29
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QUOTE(Ichy @ May 30 2011, 06:00) *

Heroicfest. But it was all the same Ichy.

My guess is: Damage is based on STR/Dex but is actually magical (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I don't care if it's STR/DEX or INT/WIS, as long as it's a magical melee attack. That's the whole reason I went with elemental.
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post May 31 2011, 08:26
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Just made tonight's update to the Monster Lab Bestiary. Three made it to level 100+, and the list of those within levels 70-99 (within the discussion section) is still growing larger. I mentioned to dkplee that I thought that the main list should be about 50 in size and I still feel the same. As the list gets longer, it becomes more difficult
to maintain. Also, from my point of view, monsters in the range of 100-149 are not advanced enough to pose much of an additional challenge. I think that changing the minimum of the main list (say to 110+) and the discussion list (say to 80-109) might be in order just to keep the lists manageable and relevant.

I started the list mostly to track the changes in the weakness/resistance of the higher level monsters. When I am in mage mode, I want to know. So far, only six monsters have scans that deviate from their type norms.
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post May 31 2011, 21:46
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QUOTE(Ichy @ May 30 2011, 10:27) *

Hmmm. Anyone knows if an Elementals normal Attack is powered by STR/DEX or INT/WIS? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

All normal attacks are physical AFAICT, so that's STR/DEX/AGI. I don't know if you got confused when you fought yourself, but these are my results.

Ichy hits you for 50 elec damage.
Ichy hits you for 53 elec damage.
Ichy hits you for 48 elec damage.
Ichy hits you for 54 elec damage.
Ichy crits you for 63 elec damage.
Ichy hits you for 62 elec damage.

Weakened:

Ichy hits you for 23 elec damage.
Ichy hits you for 18 elec damage.
Ichy hits you for 14 elec damage.
Ichy hits you for 15 elec damage.
Ichy hits you for 24 elec damage.

Also, this line is a bit of a giveaway:

You parry the attack from Ichy.

...since Parry only works on physical attacks.

And I got similar (though more painful) results from Freudia Neuwahl.
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post Jun 2 2011, 17:06
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I upgraded Eila to level 639 yesterday so you won't be able to scan her. Her Power Index should be "Beyond Measure" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

In actual fact she still can't do much damage. I was trying to provoke her into killing me but it took ten turns to get her to use her attack:

Mirai Yochi crits you for 16161 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 4356 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 3820 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 4904 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 3996 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 4017 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 4586 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 3758 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 4772 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 4300 piercing damage.

If she'd use it more often she'd be dangerous. As it is she's always well dead before her magic gage even reaches 50% (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Jun 2 2011, 17:23
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QUOTE(Frith @ Jun 2 2011, 17:06) *

I upgraded Eila to level 639 yesterday so you won't be able to scan her. Her Power Index should be "Beyond Measure" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

In actual fact she still can't do much damage. I was trying to provoke her into killing me but it took ten turns to get her to use her attack:

Mirai Yochi crits you for 16161 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 4356 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 3820 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 4904 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 3996 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 4017 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 4586 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 3758 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 4772 piercing damage.
Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits you for 4300 piercing damage.

If she'd use it more often she'd be dangerous. As it is she's always well dead before her magic gage even reaches 50% (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


Nice. Now donate some Free Cystals to me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jun 2 2011, 17:45
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jun 2 2011, 16:23) *

Nice. Now donate some Free Cystals to me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


You don't need any donations. Liselotte is already enough of an aggressive bitch:

63 8 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen has been defeated.
63 6 Liselotte Werckmeister crits Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen for 1437 piercing damage.
63 5 Liselotte Werckmeister is agitated!
63 3 Liselotte Werckmeister gains the effect Confused.
62 3 Liselotte Werckmeister got knocked out of confuse.
62 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen crits Liselotte Werckmeister for 2127 piercing damage.
61 3 Liselotte Werckmeister crits Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen for 1495 slashing damage.
60 2 Liselotte Werckmeister gains the effect Confused.
59 4 Liselotte Werckmeister got knocked out of confuse.
59 3 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits Liselotte Werckmeister for 1517 piercing damage.
59 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen is agitated!
58 3 Liselotte Werckmeister hits Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen for 1005 slashing damage.
57 2 Liselotte Werckmeister gains the effect Confused.
56 5 Liselotte Werckmeister got knocked out of confuse.
56 4 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen hits Liselotte Werckmeister for 909 piercing damage.
56 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen gains the effect Confused.
55 4 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen got knocked out of confuse.
55 3 Liselotte Werckmeister hits Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen for 985 slashing damage.
53 3 Liselotte Werckmeister hits Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen for 755 slashing damage.
53 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen crits Liselotte Werckmeister for 1485 piercing damage.
52 3 Liselotte Werckmeister hits Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen for 830 slashing damage.
51 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen gains the effect Confused.
50 3 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen got knocked out of confuse.
50 2 Liselotte Werckmeister crits Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen for 1477 slashing damage.
48 2 Liselotte Werckmeister gains the effect Confused.
47 3 Liselotte Werckmeister got knocked out of confuse.
47 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen crits Liselotte Werckmeister for 1608 piercing damage.
43 3 Liselotte Werckmeister gains the effect Confused.
42 3 Liselotte Werckmeister got knocked out of confuse.
42 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen crits Liselotte Werckmeister for 1517 piercing damage.
41 3 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen gains the effect Confused.
40 4 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen got knocked out of confuse.
40 3 Liselotte Werckmeister hits Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen for 663 slashing damage.
39 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen gains the effect Confused.
38 5 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen got knocked out of confuse.
38 4 Liselotte Werckmeister hits Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen for 598 slashing damage.
34 3 Liselotte Werckmeister hits Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen for 598 slashing damage.
33 3 Liselotte Werckmeister crits Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen for 1179 slashing damage.
31 3 Liselotte Werckmeister crits Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen for 836 slashing damage.
29 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen gains the effect Confused.
28 2 Liselotte Werckmeister gains the effect Confused.

How the hell could this happen? I demand a rematch! Eila was too nice to fight back (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Jun 2 2011, 17:52
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She is so cute your Monster could not bring itself to attack her.
While Eila is... wel I Don`t even kow what your monster looks like (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 3 2011, 02:05
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That is the greatest use of the confuse spell I have ever seen.
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post Jun 3 2011, 16:34
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Feb 14 2011, 14:35) *

I considered getting Confuse so I could watch player monsters fight each other. In the end I decided it wasn't going to be amusing enough to make it worth spending AP on.

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post Jun 5 2011, 18:34
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QUOTE(Frith @ Jun 2 2011, 17:06) *

If she'd use it more often she'd be dangerous. As it is she's always well dead before her magic gage even reaches 50% (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


Before she disappeared on me, I noticed that she usually appeared with the magic gage started at 40% and she gained 5% a turn so I usually had two or three turns to prepare my defences before she had the ability to go for the kill. Sorry she's out of my range as she was one of only four monsters who could do enough damage in a turn to be a concern.
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post Jun 8 2011, 21:49
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Atlach-Nacha should start surviving a few hits by now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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post Jun 9 2011, 02:10
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jun 8 2011, 20:49) *

Atlach-Nacha should start surviving a few hits by now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


Are you trying to make an army of extremely obscure characters? Apart from Momo I've had to do a search for every one of your monsters to find out who they are.

Also, the last thing we need is more monsters that can survive an attack. You should follow my example and create monsters which are 100% guaranteed to die in one untargeted attack.
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post Jun 9 2011, 03:56
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QUOTE(Frith @ Jun 9 2011, 01:10) *

Are you trying to make an army of extremely obscure characters? Apart from Momo I've had to do a search for every one of your monsters to find out who they are.

Also, the last thing we need is more monsters that can survive an attack. You should follow my example and create monsters which are 100% guaranteed to die in one untargeted attack.
They aren't 100% guaranteed to die in one hit, for others they're a pain in the ass especially eila.

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post Jun 9 2011, 05:01
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QUOTE(Frith @ Jun 9 2011, 02:10) *

Are you trying to make an army of extremely obscure characters? Apart from Momo I've had to do a search for every one of your monsters to find out who they are.

Also, the last thing we need is more monsters that can survive an attack. You should follow my example and create monsters which are 100% guaranteed to die in one untargeted attack.

They are not obscure you just don`t know about H. P. Lovecraft.
Eilia on the other hand I had to do an Image search to find out what she looks like. Only to be disappointed...
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post Jun 9 2011, 05:16
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I thought the whole point of the Monster Lab was to be as obscure as possible. No one wants to be the trainer of the monster everyone knows and shits on.
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post Jun 9 2011, 05:56
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jun 9 2011, 04:01) *
They are not obscure you just don`t know about H. P. Lovecraft.
Does he work work for Alice Soft? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


QUOTE(Ichy @ Jun 9 2011, 04:01) *
Eilia on the other hand I had to do an Image search to find out what she looks like. Only to be disappointed...
You've gone too far! Let's step outside! Queensbury rules! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Any self respecting person should already have watched Strike Witches so shouldn't have to do a search to find out who Eila is. Besides, Eila is 100% personality unlike no personality Liselotte. Plus Eila is far more popular:

Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen: 71,300 results on Google, 14,400 results on Google Image Search, 2757 pictures on Gelbooru
Liselotte Werckmeister: 4,530 results on Google, 928 results on Google Image Search, zero pictures on Gelbooru

Nobody likes Liselotte!
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post Jun 9 2011, 15:10
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QUOTE(Frith @ Jun 9 2011, 05:56) *

Does he work work for Alice Soft? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

No he is busy being dead.

QUOTE(Frith @ Jun 9 2011, 05:56) *
Besides, Eila is 100% personality unlike no personality Liselotte. Plus Eila is far more popular:

Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen: 71,300 results on Google, 14,400 results on Google Image Search, 2757 pictures on Gelbooru
Liselotte Werckmeister: 4,530 results on Google, 928 results on Google Image Search, zero pictures on Gelbooru



Oh big surprise here. The girl from some obscure ero game is less well known then the girl froma random fanservice animu.
For personality: come back after you have read the VNs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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